Greg Hardy Visits The Jaguars

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I think Hardy was ok with everything (he hated losing, but that's ok in my book. I don't even mind the getting mad at STs so much except that it was such a distraction during the game). It wasn't until the pics came out just prior to the 2nd PHI game that he started losing it, and I'd guess that things spiraled internally from there.

Charles Haley was in on one of the Talking Cowboys (I think) shows and gave a little insight into Hardy's mentality. He had a real chip on his shoulder re: how the DV incident was portrayed. I believe he thinks he was wronged in the incident and wronged by public perception. And I further think in his mind he's fighting to defend his own reputation or honor by refusing to act like he's sorry for anything other than the fact that he was involved in the situation in the first place. (Note, I'm not saying anything specifically either way about his guilt or possible innocence here, only what I think he thinks). He's a high strung dude (that's an understatement) and I think the perception plus the pics plus the losing plus how he was covered on the sidelines in Dallas last year bubbled up and he went completely off the rails.

That's a long way of saying I think the dude can play and play at a high level. And I don't think he's a locker room cancer automatically. I think circumstances can conspire to make him a very difficult dude to be around, and that's what happened last year. But I could easily see him going someplace else when a team gets needy enough and more or less managing to keep it on the straight and narrow and be a very solid contributor. Maybe he regains his elite status, maybe not. There's a lot of water under the bridge at this point and he's a scrutiny-magnet. But he's still a good player.

And for the record, Dez and he are pretty similar temperaments. Even on his way out the door, Dez had good things to say about Hardy. Whatever he did, it was something at least one of our highest profile players could get his arms around and not have too much problem with.

That is a fair take....that is why I would have given him one more chance...zero tolerance for bs with the ability to cut him at any time with no salary cap implications....a true fair shake because he was the best defensive player we had last year...I think he could mange to keep it together this time....
 

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That is a fair take....that is why I would have given him one more chance...zero tolerance for bs with the ability to cut him at any time with no salary cap implications....a true fair shake because he was the best defensive player we had last year...I think he could mange to keep it together this time....

He might. Whatever he did to wear out his welcome, I think it was significant. It seemed like the team went from possibly wanting him back to him being done here overnight. And yet Dez still had nice things to say on his way out the door. Kind of puzzling, overall.
 

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No team is going to sign him until after Week 1, I don't foresee. You don't guarantee a salary to a guy like that at this point.
 
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I think Hardy was ok with everything (he hated losing, but that's ok in my book. I don't even mind the getting mad at STs so much except that it was such a distraction during the game). It wasn't until the pics came out just prior to the 2nd PHI game that he started losing it, and I'd guess that things spiraled internally from there.

Charles Haley was in on one of the Talking Cowboys (I think) shows and gave a little insight into Hardy's mentality. He had a real chip on his shoulder re: how the DV incident was portrayed. I believe he thinks he was wronged in the incident and wronged by public perception. And I further think in his mind he's fighting to defend his own reputation or honor by refusing to act like he's sorry for anything other than the fact that he was involved in the situation in the first place. (Note, I'm not saying anything specifically either way about his guilt or possible innocence here, only what I think he thinks). He's a high strung dude (that's an understatement) and I think the perception plus the pics plus the losing plus how he was covered on the sidelines in Dallas last year bubbled up and he went completely off the rails.

That's a long way of saying I think the dude can play and play at a high level. And I don't think he's a locker room cancer automatically. I think circumstances can conspire to make him a very difficult dude to be around, and that's what happened last year. But I could easily see him going someplace else when a team gets needy enough and more or less managing to keep it on the straight and narrow and be a very solid contributor. Maybe he regains his elite status, maybe not. There's a lot of water under the bridge at this point and he's a scrutiny-magnet. But he's still a good player.

And for the record, Dez and he are pretty similar temperaments. Even on his way out the door, Dez had good things to say about Hardy. Whatever he did, it was something at least one of our highest profile players could get his arms around and not have too much problem with.

Good post. :)
 
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