Guys Remember Who Actaully Executes The Plays

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If the coach and/or the QB want all the glory (ala Belicik/Brady in NE) when things are going good............they gotta shoulder more than their share of critisism ala Parcels and Peyton when things are not running on all cylinders............

that being said..............its usually not WHAT you run, Its HOW you run it/ execute it
 

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Drew has 29 4th quarter come backs in 176 career games.

That's exactly one for every 6 games (16.67%)

To expect 3 in 4 games (75%) is asking for 350% MORE come from behind wins (4.5 times as many as average).

Great QBs complete 60% of their passes - that means 2 out of 5 fail. You can't win 'em all.

Yes Witten was open, but it was 3 step drop and pass. Now you're complaining he doesn't hold the ball long enough?
 

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kartr said:
How do you know what Carter was capable of, he had just 15 starts prior to BP's arrival. He beat Carolina by checking down to his TE and RB's. The Carolina defensive coordinator admitted he screwed up by taking Carter for granted. He changed his tactic to attacking Carter instead of doubling down on the outside receivers in the playoff game, but Carter still had 154 yards passing and only 1 int with 5 min. to go in the game. The defense couldn't stop Carolina and Dallas couldn't run the ball. Carter showed he is least capable of managing a game and getting a team to the playoffs, something Bledsoe hasn't been able to do in a long time.
So let me get this straight, ... you are suggesting that Quincy Carter is a better QB than Drew Bledsoe ?? :shootme:
 

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My only complaint with the play calling in the Oakland game was how long it took them to call Glenn's number. It was Keyshawn this and Keyshawn that all game long and only when the game was on the line did they actually look to Glenn. He is our speedster and deep threat and we need to take more advantage of his abilities IMO.

Offensively this team can be alot better, but BP has got to take off the kid gloves and start letting Bledsoe air it out more.
 

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WV Cowboy said:
So let me get this straight, ... you are suggesting that Quincy Carter is a better QB than Drew Bledsoe ?? :shootme:

Do NOT try to use logic or even attempt to understand.
 

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JackMagist said:
That is the job of the coaches and the reason that they bear the ultimate responsibility. Certainly the players bare some blame for things going wrong. But the coaches are supposed to design schemes to play to the strengths of the players and protect their weaknesses. It is also their job to find among the players brought to them by the scouts and Bill Parcells the ones with the most talent and to teach them how to use it.

For instance the coverages that the players were playing against Santana Moss were designed and called by the coaches; coaches who know the capabilities of the players involved. One breakdown was not such a big thing but calling the same coverage and not making the adjustment after the first TD was inexcusable and it was the coaches who stuck with the same scheme after the weakness was exposed. The coverage failed because coaches misjudged the abilities of the players; it failed a second time because the coaches made no change to the coverage after it was exposed as a flawed scheme. The COACHES cost us that game.

The coaches have cost us two now, imo.

Bill did a phenomenal job his first year in Dallas - put his imprint on the team in the true Parcells mode - which is that players may have marginal talent but most will play to their potential, and a few over reach it.

Last year the colossol hubris reigned that coaching could compensate for anything, and fortunately, Bill saw the error of that arrogance.

But this year there is enough talent, and a sweet enough mix of vets and rookies to compete...this micromanaging and prevent mentality looks like its stifling the entire team (sans Keyshawn..he's the only one with the noticable nerve to just play the game his way.)

I don't blame Bill for wanting to nitpick Bledsoe flaws right out of his game, but please..no one is going to accuse you of running a wco if occasionally you open up the run with the pass. Last week the coaches evidently understood a weakness in Oakland's D is underneath to the TE...but after the half it looked like they forgot it.

This team needs a healthy dose of excitement. Impact, early leads, momemtum. For its own good, if not ours. The return specialists are marginal, so it won't come from there. Ware is not yet LT so it won't come from there. Maybe Tnew will go on a little ball hawk run and that will do it, or maybe Bill will actually play Terry and Price a few sets together and scare a few defenders out of the box.

The play calling probaly doesn't leave as much to be desired as it looks, if only some impact element was always bubbling beneath the surface, and I don't mean trick plays.

Bill keeps saying rookie mistakes won't keep potential high impact players like Tyson Thompson off the field, yet in the next breath he's cataloging "mental errors" again, sounding like some anal grammarian worrying over a student essay or a corporate bean counter obsessing over a missing tenspot. End result, in my guesstimation, is your potential impact player freezes up and plays like a robot.

Seriously, who was the last HC who offered up mental error counts at the PC after the game? Points, yards, sacks, pocks ...those are worth counting..hearing the litany of dumbarse mistakes yet again....ok, we get it, Player X missed a blitz pickup. So do players on other teams, and they sometimes still manage to win.

The level of control has become a bit absurd. I think it's high time for some of Bill's vets to have a lil talk with him "No, we won't be throwing the ball because we HAVE to like last year, but because we CAN".
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
The coaches have cost us two now, imo.

Bill did a phenomenal job his first year in Dallas - put his imprint on the team in the true Parcells mode - which is that players may have marginal talent but most will play to their potential, and a few over reach it.

Last year the colossol hubris reigned that coaching could compensate for anything, and fortunately, Bill saw the error of that arrogance.

But this year there is enough talent, and a sweet enough mix of vets and rookies to compete...this micromanaging and prevent mentality looks like its stifling the entire team (sans Keyshawn..he's the only one with the noticable nerve to just play the game his way.)

I don't blame Bill for wanting to nitpick Bledsoe flaws right out of his game, but please..no one is going to accuse you of running a wco if occasionally you open up the run with the pass. Last week the coaches evidently understood a weakness in Oakland's D is underneath to the TE...but after the half it looked like they forgot it.

This team needs a healthy dose of excitement. Impact, early leads, momemtum. For its own good, if not ours. The return specialists are marginal, so it won't come from there. Ware is not yet LT so it won't come from there. Maybe Tnew will go on a little ball hawk run and that will do it, or maybe Bill will actually play Terry and Price a few sets together and scare a few defenders out of the box.

The play calling probaly doesn't leave as much to be desired as it looks, if only some impact element was always bubbling beneath the surface, and I don't mean trick plays.

Bill keeps saying rookie mistakes won't keep potential high impact players like Tyson Thompson off the field, yet in the next breath he's cataloging "mental errors" again, sounding like some anal grammarian worrying over a student essay or a corporate bean counter obsessing over a missing tenspot. End result, in my guesstimation, is your potential impact player freezes up and plays like a robot.

Seriously, who was the last HC who offered up mental error counts at the PC after the game? Points, yards, sacks, pocks ...those are worth counting..hearing the litany of dumbarse mistakes yet again....ok, we get it, Player X missed a blitz pickup. So do players on other teams, and they sometimes still manage to win.

The level of control has become a bit absurd. I think it's high time for some of Bill's vets to have a lil talk with him "No, we won't be throwing the ball because we HAVE to like last year, but because we CAN".

I gather you firmly believe Parcells is a different coach now than when he was with the Jets. I didn't get to follow him closely while in NY, but are you saying this version of Parcells is holding the Cowboys back?
 

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dargonking999 said:
I fully agree, the coaches face some part of it, BUT it is not all their fault nor 90% to me it's more 50/50 40/60. PLayers make mistakes, and we need to find out whats wrong with the players on the field, the move on to the coaching

The point is that untill now only the players took the blame when we lost a game. It's time that the coaches take responsibility! And what i have seen from the games there was a lot of "wrong" calles that have been made. Especially on offense.
 

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calcbfan1 said:
1st) You can always second guess a call that didn't work out.


2nd) The series that you describe is the series after Washington scored the 2nd time and took a 14-13 lead. Why would we want to run down the clock? We were trying to score. And we threw the ball on 4th down and gained three.

Maybe you're thinking about the following series which took place when the score was 13-7:

1-10-DAL31(3:42) D.Bledsoe pass incomplete to K.Johnson. Pass thrown at midfield middle of the field.
2-10-DAL31(3:36) J.Jones left end to DAL 39 for 8 yards (W.Harris).
PENALTY on WAS-W.Harris, Face Mask (5 Yards), 5 yards, enforced at DAL 39.
1-10-DAL44(3:29) J.Jones left tackle to DAL 46 for 2 yards (M.Washington; P.Daniels).
2-8-DAL46(3:23) D.Bledsoe pass incomplete to B.Pierce. Pass thrown right sideline.
3-8-DAL46(3:17) (Shotgun) D.Bledsoe pass to K.Johnson to WAS 37 for 17 yards (M.Bowen).
PENALTY on DAL-F.Adams, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at DAL 46 - No Play.
3-18-DAL36(3:07) (Shotgun) D.Bledsoe pass to J.Witten to DAL 49 for 13 yards (W.Harris).
4-5-DAL49(2:57) M.McBriar punts 51 yards to end zone, Center-J.Condo, Touchback.

Notice the 17 yard gain that was wiped out because a player held (Didn't execute)

Yep! I think it was the right call by Dallas but the holding penalty killed the 17 yard reception that would have ended the game. In the past when Dallas would run it 3 times and get stuffed the next day people are hollering why didn't we try to pass. People you can't have it both ways, the plays have been there and we have not made them. Blame the coach all you want after all he is the man at the top but the fact is in the loses we have had plays there for the taking to win and in a couple of games players have failed to execute the play.
 
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