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If this had been a different athlete, a different WR in the league, the media coverage would have been very different.

Based on the facts,and disregarding the speculation it would read something like this:

DALLAS(AP) - Tuesday evening Dallas Cowboys WR Joe Blow was taken to the hospital after suffering an allergic reaction to pain meds and supplements. He was kept overnight for precautionary observation and was released Wednesday. He returned to Valley Ranch and practiced Wednesday afternoon.

Further NFL news worth mentioning, Chris Simms is recovering from having his spleen removed, Bengals players arrested now up to 6 since last season, Jeremey Shockey throws his coach under the bus, and Big Ben is now known as Little Ben.

My point is, how many other NFL players have gone to the hospital since training camp started? For personal reasons.

How many of those hospital visits have become NATIONAL EVENTS !!
 

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WV Cowboy;1057046 said:
If this had been a different athlete, a different WR in the league, the media coverage would have been very different.

Based on the facts,and disregarding the speculation it would read something like this:

DALLAS(AP) - Tuesday evening Dallas Cowboys WR Joe Blow was taken to the hospital after suffering an allergic reaction to pain meds and supplements. He was kept overnight for precautionary observation and was released Wednesday. He returned to Valley Ranch and practiced Wednesday afternoon.

Further NFL news worth mentioning, Chris Simms is recovering from having his spleen removed, Bengals players arrested now up to 6 since last season, Jeremey Shockey throws his coach under the bus, and Big Ben is now known as Little Ben.

My point is, how many other NFL players have gone to the hospital since training camp started? For personal reasons.

How many of those hospital visits have become NATIONAL EVENTS !!


Because the police were called in on this it was going to get attention. Sorry the media saw the initial police report and read in that report that this may have been a suicide attempt. You can bet the media was going to be on this regardless of who the celebrity was.
 

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Exactly 100% correct. The worse is I have yet to see one article saying 'oops, we jumped the gun here'. Today it's either about which story is true or it's about how this is just part of the TO circus. Nice. Yes TO was the one that leaked out a police transcript (not yet an 'official report') while he was at the hospital. Yes, he ran all the headlines about how he tried to do himself in. He's the one that had ESPN radio fill their day with people coming in and talking about how they could see this coming.

No one says their sorry in the media. They have all turned it on TO. It's his fault, he's hiding something. Whatever. I guess TO will never be taken at his word even though he has no history of lieing. In fact, his biggest problem is he tells the truth without thinking of the consequences. The two things you could say about TO before he came to Dallas were his honesty and work ethic. Now the media, through this garbage and the hammy-gate crap, seems determined to take both of those away.
 

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Doomsday101;1057054 said:
Because the police were called in on this it was going to get attention. Sorry the media saw the initial police report and read in that report that this may have been a suicide attempt. You can bet the media was going to be on this regardless of who the celebrity was.
You're kidding, right ?

This was on the O'Reilly factor last night, Greta Vanscrotetrun, Joe Scarborough, etc

And all of this after an allergic reaction.

But it was not overblown by the media, ... right :rolleyes:
 

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CIWhitefish;1057059 said:
Exactly 100% correct. The worse is I have yet to see one article saying 'oops, we jumped the gun here'. Today it's either about which story is true or it's about how this is just part of the TO circus. Nice. Yes TO was the one that leaked out a police transcript (not yet an 'official report') while he was at the hospital. Yes, he ran all the headlines about how he tried to do himself in. He's the one that had ESPN radio fill their day with people coming in and talking about how they could see this coming.

No one says their sorry in the media. They have all turned it on TO. It's his fault, he's hiding something. Whatever. I guess TO will never be taken at his word even though he has no history of lieing. In fact, his biggest problem is he tells the truth without thinking of the consequences. The two things you could say about TO before he came to Dallas were his honesty and work ethic. Now the media, through this garbage and the hammy-gate crap, seems determined to take both of those away.

I agree some in the media go overboard but the Dallas TV station broke this story based off a police report. ESPN did not jump on this from the get go, matter of fact yesterday morning there were many posters who said well ESPN has not said anything so this must not be true.
 

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Doomsday101;1057054 said:
Because the police were called in on this it was going to get attention. Sorry the media saw the initial police report and read in that report that this may have been a suicide attempt. You can bet the media was going to be on this regardless of who the celebrity was.

I know what you are saying, but the Terrence Kiel story is a MUCH bigger story and you saw little or no coverage on it...
 

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WV Cowboy;1057046 said:
If this had been a different athlete, a different WR in the league, the media coverage would have been very different.

Based on the facts,and disregarding the speculation it would read something like this:

DALLAS(AP) - Tuesday evening Dallas Cowboys WR Joe Blow was taken to the hospital after suffering an allergic reaction to pain meds and supplements. He was kept overnight for precautionary observation and was released Wednesday. He returned to Valley Ranch and practiced Wednesday afternoon.

Further NFL news worth mentioning, Chris Simms is recovering from having his spleen removed, Bengals players arrested now up to 6 since last season, Jeremey Shockey throws his coach under the bus, and Big Ben is now known as Little Ben.

My point is, how many other NFL players have gone to the hospital since training camp started? For personal reasons.

How many of those hospital visits have become NATIONAL EVENTS !!

In addition to making it another player ie. Joe Blow... you also need to change the team from Dallas to some other team.... we know how they over do it for Dallas players
 

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Doomsday101;1057054 said:
Because the police were called in on this it was going to get attention. Sorry the media saw the initial police report and read in that report that this may have been a suicide attempt. You can bet the media was going to be on this regardless of who the celebrity was.

Maybe. The only difference, IMO, would be the tone of the handling. For anyone else, it would be extremely sympathetic.
 

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WV Cowboy;1057063 said:
You're kidding, right ?

This was on the O'Reilly factor last night, Greta Vanscrotetrun, Joe Scarborough, etc

And all of this after an allergic reaction.

But it was not overblown by the media, ... right :rolleyes:


I'm not saying they did not go overboard they did. They went overboard with Rothlisberger as well and he too was getting the national coverage. I'm just saying that your wrong that if it were any other athlete they would not be making a big deal out of it
 

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WV Cowboy;1057046 said:
If this had been a different athlete, a different WR in the league, the media coverage would have been very different.

Based on the facts,and disregarding the speculation it would read something like this:

DALLAS(AP) - Tuesday evening Dallas Cowboys WR Joe Blow was taken to the hospital after suffering an allergic reaction to pain meds and supplements. He was kept overnight for precautionary observation and was released Wednesday. He returned to Valley Ranch and practiced Wednesday afternoon.

Further NFL news worth mentioning, Chris Simms is recovering from having his spleen removed, Bengals players arrested now up to 6 since last season, Jeremey Shockey throws his coach under the bus, and Big Ben is now known as Little Ben.

My point is, how many other NFL players have gone to the hospital since training camp started? For personal reasons.

How many of those hospital visits have become NATIONAL EVENTS !!
everybody knows this already
 

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superpunk;1057073 said:
Maybe. The only difference, IMO, would be the tone of the handling. For anyone else, it would be extremely sympathetic.


You may be right TO is not the most loved person out there and I'm not going into the debate why he is not liked by many including some of our own fans. All I'm saying is yes the media would have jumped on a story of what police reports initial findings were a suicide attempt be it TO or any other big name celebrity
 

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Doomsday101;1057068 said:
I agree some in the media go overboard but the Dallas TV station broke this story based off a police report. ESPN did not jump on this from the get go, matter of fact yesterday morning there were many posters who said well ESPN has not said anything so this must not be true.

The only problem I have with this is the Dallas station did not go off of a police report per se. The official report was not even completed before this 'broke'. They went off of the prelim that was seen on smokinggun.com. Because on that prelim TO supposedly answered yes to the question about trying to harm himself and it mentioned 35 pills 'missing' the conclusion was made. When the TV station ran with it it snowballed. I won't blame ESPN and the rest for starting this but they sure as shooting jumped all over it and now won't admit that maybe they were a tad over zealous. Instead of acting a little contrite over this now it's all about how it's somehow TO's fault or something sinister. As I see said a lot here, 'I call BS!'
 

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CIWhitefish;1057106 said:
The only problem I have with this is the Dallas station did not go off of a police report per se. The official report was not even completed before this 'broke'. They went off of the prelim that was seen on smokinggun.com. Because on that prelim TO supposedly answered yes to the question about trying to harm himself and it mentioned 35 pills 'missing' the conclusion was made. When the TV station ran with it it snowballed. I won't blame ESPN and the rest for starting this but they sure as shooting jumped all over it and now won't admit that maybe they were a tad over zealous. Instead of acting a little contrite over this now it's all about how it's somehow TO's fault or something sinister. As I see said a lot here, 'I call BS!'


I will agree some in the media will go over board. As I said yesterday I don't blame TO for something that could have happened to anyone. I don't blame the media for covering it and I'll agree with you that they go over board. I'll also say it is not uncommon for the media to report on a story based on initial reports and if this would have been any other big name celebrity they would have done the same
 

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Agreed.

But it's not a different athlete.

It's Owens.

The thing that surprises me most about yesterday's events is not Owens but our reactions.

This is part of the package.

Granted, this was extraordinary, even for Owens but the potential for this stuff is always there and the capacity for people like Owens to come up with drama that we could never imagine, is immense.
 

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Doomsday101;1057076 said:
I'm not saying they did not go overboard they did. They went overboard with Rothlisberger as well and he too was getting the national coverage. I'm just saying that your wrong that if it were any other athlete they would not be making a big deal out of it

I can see Stephen A Smith talking about it, Cold Pizza, Best Sports Show, Mike & Mike, PTI, Round the Horn, etc. ... those are SPORTS shows !!

But the O'Reilly factor, Greta, Joe S., Hannity & Coombs ??

Those aren't sports shows !

This was a non-story and they cranked it up to a National Event, ... if that's not a media-created circus I don't know what is.

Owens had done nothing wrong since he was suspended by the Iggles, and yet everything he does is scrutinized, ridiculed, hyped up, and exaggerated.
At this rate how could he ever change opinions of himself?
 

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WV Cowboy;1057063 said:
You're kidding, right ?

This was on the O'Reilly factor last night, Greta Vanscrotetrun, Joe Scarborough, etc

And all of this after an allergic reaction.

But it was not overblown by the media, ... right :rolleyes:

but what's the "real" story? TO or a suicide attempt?

hell put them together you don't have to work for a week or longer just because you can rehash this possiblity to death. or hopes the story itself will committ suicide.

i'd have to agree that if you put suicide next to a celeb's name you're gonna get a big reaction. put it next to TO's and all of a sudden everyone wants to play doctor/shrink.

nature of the beast.
 

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Juke99;1057141 said:
Agreed.

But it's not a different athlete.

It's Owens.

The thing that surprises me most about yesterday's events is not Owens but our reactions.

This is part of the package.

Granted, this was extraordinary, even for Owens but the potential for this stuff is always there and the capacity for people like Owens to come up with drama that we could never imagine, is immense.

So how was this Owens fault ?

If there was not a false suicide report, none of this happens.

And actually, if his publicist doesn't come over to his house, we never hear about this.

So how is Owens at fault ?
 

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Juke99;1057141 said:
Agreed.

But it's not a different athlete.

It's Owens.

The thing that surprises me most about yesterday's events is not Owens but our reactions.

This is part of the package.

Granted, this was extraordinary, even for Owens but the potential for this stuff is always there and the capacity for people like Owens to come up with drama that we could never imagine, is immense.
Good post. I totally agree.

Some athletes are just larger than life and TO is one of them.

The media stir was not near as great when the starting center (can't think of his name) for the Raiders disappeared the night before the Super Bowl. And it was reported that he was depressed.

Had it been one of the larger stars on either of the Raiders or Bucs squads, then you probably would've seen the same media blitz.
 

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WV Cowboy;1057149 said:
So how was this Owens fault ?

If there was not a false suicide report, none of this happens.

And actually, if his publicist doesn't come over to his house, we never hear about this.

So how is Owens at fault ?



WV. I never said it was Owen's fault.

It simply is going to follow him around. Fault or not.

That what surprises me around here. It doesn't HAVE to be his fault.

He loves attention. He's getting it. Good, bad or indifferent.

That's why, ultimately, I shrug my shoulders to the whole thing.
 
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