Harris: Take Jermod McCoy off list of possible Cowboys 1st round targets

[JBS]

He’s 20 months post injury I believe.

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[Spottswoode]

He didn't participate at the Combine along with many other players. Maybe the Raiders shouldn't draft Mendoza then.

He was interviewed at the Combine and he said he was medically cleared and was practicing at the end of the season trying to play in games but ultimately decided not to.

I agree…no reason to lie about something that would be fairly easy to confirm.

The Vol’s pro day is 3/31. Is it really a big deal that he is testing a month after the combine? He actually returned to practice with the Vol’s last Aug. for individual drills without a brace…7 months post surgery. Not a rumor…there is film.

 

[JBS]

I agree…no reason to lie about something that would be fairly easy to confirm.

The Vol’s pro day is 3/31. Is it really a big deal that he is testing a month after the combine? He actually returned to practice with the Vol’s last Aug. for individual drills without a brace…7 months post surgery. Not a rumor…there is film.

So why are the Cowboys out on him? A few others have conceded that the reporter has merit

 

[Carson]

So why are the Cowboys out on him? A few others have conceded that the reporter has merit

I think they just don’t want anything similar to Revel.

Jerry said no redshirts. I know injuries happen. But going against anything prior

 

[Spottswoode]

So why are the Cowboys out on him? A few others have conceded that the reporter has merit

Have the Cowboys said they are out on him or is that a conclusion from this board or reporters reading into things?

If he is cleared today, how would he be considered a redshirt player? I consider a redshirt player one who’s participation will be delayed. Is that the case with McCoy?

 

[JBS]

Have the Cowboys said they are out on him or is that a conclusion from this board or reporters reading into things?

If he is cleared today, how would he be considered a redshirt player? I consider a redshirt player one who’s participation will be delayed. Is that the case with McCoy?

Nick Harris reported it and other beat writers have suggested he’s probably not wrong.

One can only assume that it’s either character or health related

 

[RS12]

On the draft show they said no McCoy round 1 because it could be at least a partial medical red shirt year.

 

[Spottswoode]

Nick Harris reported it and other beat writers have suggested he’s probably not wrong.

One can only assume that it’s either character or health related

Or one could also assume Harris made the same leap that many here did. Do you think McCoy fits the redshirt definition?

Harris said “one name I’m crossing off based on information this week”. He didn’t say Dallas was crossing him off. He said HE was crossing him off. And what information did we hear? We heard Jerry doesn’t want redshirt players. He wants players that can contribute immediately (unlike Revel).

Are we suggesting McCoy won’t be able to contribute immediately? If he is completely cleared, does he still fit what Jerry was saying about contributing?

I don’t know whether he is under consideration or not. But if he kills his pro day in a few weeks and his knee checks out, he should be. IMO, Dallas did not tell Harris in February that McCoy is not a consideration.

 

[Spottswoode]

On the draft show they said no McCoy round 1 because it could be at least a partial medical red shirt year.

Do you believe that before they have even checked him out or have seen him workout?
When you say they, are you referring to the Cowboys…who is they?
Do you honestly believe Dallas said that in February, weeks before his workouts?
This is just people reading whatever they want into stupid Jerry comments IMO.

 

[JBS]

Or one could also assume Harris made the same leap that many here did. Do you think McCoy fits the redshirt definition?

Harris said “one name I’m crossing off based on information this week”. He didn’t say Dallas was crossing him off. He said HE was crossing him off. And what information did we hear? We heard Jerry doesn’t want redshirt players. He wants players that can contribute immediately (unlike Revel).

Are we suggesting McCoy won’t be able to contribute immediately? If he is completely cleared, does he still fit what Jerry was saying about contributing?

I don’t know whether he is under consideration or not. But if he kills his pro day in a few weeks and his knee checks out, he should be. IMO, Dallas did not tell Harris in February that McCoy is not a consideration.

Yes bc that’s what reporters do. They jump to conclusions based off no information. Good idea.

 

[Spottswoode]

Yes bc that’s what reporters do. They jump to conclusions based off no information. Good idea.

Did you not see where he said “he” was crossing him off. Why not just say Dallas is crossing him off?

 

[RS12]

Do you believe that before they have even checked him out or have seen him workout?
When you say they, are you referring to the Cowboys…who is they?
Do you honestly believe Dallas has said that in February, weeks before his workouts?
This is just people reading whatever they want into stupid Jerry comments IMO.

They are the guys on the draft show. In particular Nick Harris is as plugged into the Cowboys as anybody. Belt too. They all felt that way but you think whatever you want. Do I think McCoy ends up a Cowboy? No not unless he falls to round 2 and they get a pick there. Watch the draft show and reach your own conclusion.

 

[JBS]

Did you not see where he said “he” was crossing him off. Why not just say Dallas is crossing him off?

Because that’s how reporters operate

 

[Spottswoode]

They felt that way…so nothing they heard from Dallas. I have said I don’t know whether he is under consideration or not. The only thing I have challenged is that the redshirt comment automatically excludes him from consideration in the eyes of Dallas. If that is believing what I want, then I appreciate you allowing me that.

And if his pro day goes well and the knee checks out, I’ll make a friendly wager with you if he is still there at 20 (assuming they don’t take Mansoor at 12).

 

[Spottswoode]

Because that’s how reporters operate

So you think the Cowboys told Harris in February that McCoy wasn’t under consideration for either the #12 or #20 pick?

 

[Spottswoode]

On the draft show they said no McCoy round 1 because it could be at least a partial medical red shirt year.

How could they possibly know he could be a partial medical redshirt 13 months post surgery and 7 months before the season begins with no news of any setbacks? It seems his doctors disagree as he supposedly is cleared with no limitations. He claims he was cleared and could have played at the end of last season.

And why would the Cowboys tell a reporter, who then tells the world, that he is off their board? If true, what could possibly be the benefit of sharing that info prior to the draft?

Revel’s knee injury happened ~3.5 months before McCoy’s, he had a setback, and still played his first game ~14 months later. McCoy will be ~20 months post surgery when the season starts.

I’m not saying draft him (though I would at #20). But I don’t think he fits the redshirt criteria unless Jerry is confused about what redshirt means.

 

[JBS]

This is the answer

I’m listening to 1053 right now, they went over a mock draft by Jordan Reed and Mccoys name came up

Bobby Belt-“I’m not taking McCoy anywhere in the first round, for this team, the Dallas cowboys. I haven’t seen him play football in a year”

Nick Harris - “correct”

Sounds like The cowboys dont feel comfortable taking a player they haven’t seen play ball in a year. Healthy or not.

 

[JBS]

How could they possibly know he could be a partial medical redshirt 13 months post surgery and 7 months before the season begins with no news of any setbacks? It seems his doctors disagree as he supposedly is cleared with no limitations. He claims he was cleared and could have played at the end of last season.

And why would the Cowboys tell a reporter, who then tells the world, that he is off their board? If true, what could possibly be the benefit of sharing that info prior to the draft?

Revel’s knee injury happened ~3.5 months before McCoy’s, he had a setback, and still played his first game ~14 months later. McCoy will be ~20 months post surgery when the season starts.

I’m not saying draft him (though I would at #20). But I don’t think he fits the redshirt criteria unless Jerry is confused about what redshirt means.

Is McCoy your cousin? Lolol

 

[JBS]

On the draft show they said no McCoy round 1 because it could be at least a partial medical red shirt year.

Do you recall who on the draft show said this?

 

[starfan1]

Have the Cowboys said they are out on him or is that a conclusion from this board or reporters reading into things?

If he is cleared today, how would he be considered a redshirt player? I consider a redshirt player one who’s participation will be delayed. Is that the case with McCoy?

I heard on the fan this morning on a conversation with Harris and Belt that the cowboys are not wanting any redshirt players right now. They are in win now and need those players to contribute right away and not a year down the road or later. Not sure if this is McCoy or not. some of this discussion was centered around an injury that down has. and McCoy is mentioned

https://www.audacy.com/podcast/shan...re-their-takeaways-from-the-nfl-combine-04c31

if you go to 5.40 they specifically mention it