Has the owner/GM changed his thinking?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by CouchCoach, May 29, 2021.

  1. ninja

    ninja Numbnuts

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    @xwalker Nolan couldn’t use Gregory because he was suspended for the first 6 games. By the time Gregory was available, the defense had already quit with their built-in excuse of Dak getting hurt.

    Nolan had no chance with this defense last year. Even Belichick could not do anything with freelancers who don’t know their assignments and just wanted the season to end.
     
  2. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    You always interpreted my support of Garrett as though he was doing a great job. You still haven’t grasped my angle of greatest puppet.

    And Garrett didn’t provide as much embarrassment as our other puppets this era and our dysfunctional organization and ownership. He was arguably our most successful puppet.
     
  3. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    It all comes down to you wanting to portray a more positive spin which I’ll never be able to do with him as owner. I have basically lost all hope for returning to our once glorious stature . And don’t need it to remain a fan. My hope rest in his demise.

    Even when we were winning championships I couldn’t stand him. It’s about how he conducts himself running our football team.

    And yes, it does help relieve the stress over our disappointing era by continually bashing him. It was the purpose of me originally joining these fan forums almost 15 years ago. And it has helped having a venue to release angst and share with others. Therapeutic .
     
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  4. ESisback

    ESisback Well-Known Member

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    While I’m just as big a fan as you are, my self esteem and emotional status doesn’t depend on the success of a football team, especially nowdays, in this age of impatience and overreaction. What’s the ultimate payoff for you? Bragging rights at the local watering hole? More cool swag? Telling your wife “hey hon, all the arguments were worth it, right?” Or do you go the Stuart Smalley route in front of a mirror with a Daily Affirmation? If nonstop mewing and misery is your therapy...um...congrats...I guess.
     
  5. CouchCoach

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    LMAO, death, taxes and add Booger running the Dallas Cowboys until he goes toes up. The three certainties of life.

    His son does just what he's allowed to do, which is what Booger doesn't want to do. His son negotiates deals but the old man is the final approval.

    I am sure the Raiders fans hoped the son, Mark, was doing something behind the scenes except making his barber laugh. Instead they saw Crazy Al, looking like a Stephen King character, granting interviews. Al Davis was picked as Booger's mentor from the beginning for a very good reason and Booger has been emulating him ever since he got in the league.

    Something I have a lot of experience with is second generation businesses and I can tell you the mantle does not get passed until the father is either incapacitated or dead. It's not like the subsequent generations where the torch was used to getting passed. Self-made men are just different and that's what Al was and Booger is.

    Everyone of his family members has a job to do but there is no confusion as to who is in charge until he says he no longer is in charge. Want proof? Watch Booger's reaction with the media every time this rumor of a change in management surfaces, which is nothing more than speculation from reporters that don't know. They may think they know because of what the son says but they do not know with the father thinks.
     
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  6. 75boyz

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    I jokingly refer to it as Jerry's Master Plan as he's still out to prove to the naysayers that he's a Football Guy.
    The failed Garrett project fuels that prideful hunger to try it again on His terms again.

    Imo Jerry may still be suffering from lack of credit syndrome and I believe he likened Moore to Sean McVay a couple years back so McCarthy would serve as the bridge coach for Moore's eventual takeover.

    Just speculation/opinion on my part at this stage taking into account "IF" Mac were to fail in this year's attempt at coaching redemption.

    That Jerry. Always a step ahead...
     
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  7. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    Nope, you obviously don’t get me. What a shame after all these years you’re not able to.
     
  8. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    Yep

    It’s why he was intent on retaining Moore. The last thing Jethro wants is for McCarthy to come in and receive all the credit like Jimmy did.
     
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  9. CouchCoach

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    It was better therapy for me when I knew he was paying for the site for me to make fun of him on.

    However, were it not for these forums, I would never discuss him, he's just not important to me. I cannot recall a discussion off these forums except stripper gate and that was mainly because one of those girls was from where I was working at the time. My favorite part was his defenders getting mad at me for making fun of a billionaire caught drunk by a couple of strippers.

    In fact, I have noticed that with my long time East buds, we do not discuss the NFL much at all and that used to be the focus and the arguments were based on that. it's just not as important as it once was and it isn't coming back for us.

    As far as the younger generation, the one 8-18 now, will they ever be as rabid? When I was 12 years old, if I had what the 12 year old boys have available today, I am not sure I would have ever been a fan. Don't know if even I would have ever played the game. The girls all go for the guitar players now, not the QB's. Musicians don't get concussions, they just go to rehab.
     
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  10. Diehardblues

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    It will be very difficult for all 3 to agree on who’s in charge unless one buys them out. Someone will have to be accountable to the others. Something we haven’t been able to check Jethro on . Or they’ll all agree on hiring outside the family.

    Therein lies my hope . The Cowboys without Jethro.
     
  11. Diehardblues

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    We can’t escape him here. I follow the local vibe and media. He’s always front and center. There’s no escaping him. Unless I stop reading, watching and listening to local media which I’m not going to do.

    But I agree, that’s why I joined the old site cause he owned it and wanted to vent my grief in hopes he’d get some bits and pieces while planting the seeds.

    I never expected there’d be fans that would defend him as I’d never known any personally. That changed everything for me. I had to go on the defense of my fandom while attacking those attacking me.

    Never saw that coming. And new to the internet and social media scene wasn’t really prepared to handle it. I expected my personal experiences and closer up fandom than most to be admired and followed like I have here in my circle. I never imagined I’d have opposition on a Cowboys fan forum.

    I’ve tried to take a little different approach on this site as I learned much.
     
  12. CowboyRoy

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    I liked the Animal to be honest.
     
  13. CowboyRoy

    CowboyRoy Well-Known Member

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    There is nothing to interpret. You defended Garrett against anything bad people said about him. You liked him as our coach and thought he was doing a great job, changing the culture, ect....ect....

    Any other deflection that you didnt really like Garrett is a total and complete lie.

    All puppets suck. Maybe someday you can raise your standards.
     
  14. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    Not as long as Jethro’s here. The Bar is forever lowered. At some point you have to grasp onto something to save face. Or you end up walking away. And I agree. All puppets suk. But that’s our reality.

    And yea, I did like him because of his Cowboys connection. I also liked his class and manner. You look for the positives. Rooting for Garrett’s success provided me that ray of sunshine for awhile because of his Cowboys connection.

    If we’re going to have this dysfunctional frustrating situation I’d rather have a HC like him to root for.
     
  15. CowboyRoy

    CowboyRoy Well-Known Member

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    I know you like him. You liked him a lot. You would have to in order to defend his honor for 10 years like you did.

    Like you were told several times but didnt listen we have had great coaches under Jones. Jimmy, Parcells. MM is worlds better than the hapless Garrett. I would actually take ANYONE over the overwhelmed Garrett. Wade I definitely would take. He at least is a great coordinator.
     
  16. GimmeTheBall!

    GimmeTheBall! Junior College Transfer

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    You have already met our expectations, dear lad!:)
     
  17. Verdict

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    If his record is 2 and 6 he will probably not make it through the year.
     
  18. Floatyworm

    Floatyworm The Labeled One

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    Agree....If he starts running fake punts again from inside the 30.....It's just a matter of time. :popcorn:
     
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  19. gjkoeppen

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    My first question is were you in all offices of Jerry and Stephen when all this pecking order was decided because there's been no public announcement that everything goes through Stephen now. Let me guess you sneaked into their offices and planted bugs in them so you could hear all their discussions they had. I will say that you come up with some creative dreams that unfortunately aren't backed up by any other legit source.
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  20. cowboyed

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    Has the Owner/GM changed his thinking? It depends on how many electro-shock treatments are imposed on him.
     

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