Has the Proverbial "Window" Really Closed for the Philadelphia Eagles!

[Phoenix-Talon]

You've heard it said ... that the reason the Eagles dominated the NFC-East between 2000 - 2004, is because the rest of the NFC-E was weak during those days. They said that the proverbial "window" has closed for the Eagles franchise because the rest of the NFC-East has coaght up in quality and talent.

But what if the NFC-East was never weak! What is the NFC-East was just as strong then as it is now?! That would really place a fly in the ointment. Well ...that;s exactly what I'm saying!

Did a little research on NFC Standings between the year 2002 - 2005. Here are the numbers:

2002 - 2005 NFC Standings

#1 - NFC-East

2002: 34 games won (placed #1 in NFC)
2003: 31 games won (tied all in NFC)
2004: 31 games won (placed #2 in NFC)
2005: 36 games won (placed #1 in NFC)

#2 - NFC-South

2002: 31 games won (placed #2 in NFC)
2003: 31 games won (placed - even thru-out the NFC)
2004: 31 games won (tied 2nd with NFC-E)
2005: 33 games won (placed #2 in NFC)

#3 - NFC-North

2002: 25 games won (placed #4 in NFC)
2003: 31 games won (placed - even thru-out the NFC)
2004: 35 games won (placed #2 in NFC)
2005: 29 games won (placed #1 in NFC)

#4 - NFC-West

2002: 29 games won (placed #2 in NFC)
2003: 31 games won (placed - even thru-out the NFC)
2004: 25 games won (placed #4 in NFC)
2005: 28 games won (placed #4 in NFC)

According to the numbers/outcomes ...the NFC-East has consistent produced more wins than any conference opponent teams. Now that either means that the NFC-East has never been weak or ...that the NFC has been weak.

That said, the question remains ...if the NFC-East has always been strong, has everyone underestimated the proverbial Eagles window ...and was 2005 a peak at a deteriorating Eagles or a team hit with a plethora of injuries?

IMOHO ...I Believe we won't really know any of that until the regular season starts. I'm not in the predicitng business ...but I am optimistic that the Eagles will be much, much stronger than many of you believe.

 

[Vintage]

In 2003, we won 10 games.

And that was ONLY bec. our division was weak, as well as the NFC in general.

A third of the wins from the NFC East came from a team that wasn't really that good.

But I guess you could argue its irrelevant, bec. for that season, we were winning.

 

[gbrittain]

I do not think that the Eagles window has closed just yet, but I will say this season will tell us for sure if the Eagles still have it or not.

Regardless of any numbers the NFCE has been putrid for years. Nothing will change that fact. It is not a slight against Philly, it is just the truth. When is the last time you could make a good case for any of the teams to win the Division?

 

[illone]

Put it this way, the Eagles then are like the Seahawks now. Both teams benefited from a weak division and like you said the NFC in general hasn't been as strong as the AFC in recent years. The Eagles are now on the outside looking in and don't have 4-5 rollover games against weaker, building teams within the division.

I think the Eagles need a running game if they want to contend again.

 

[Hostile]

Getting McNabb back healthy and the Draft that they had? No, I don't think they're quite flat lining yet. They'll have to adjust to life with lesser WRs, and likely will rely more on the run, but it's a well coached team with talent.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

In 2003, we won 10 games.And that was ONLY bec. our division was weak, as well as the NFC in general.

Whoa ...slow down. I believe you! You're talking about your team I'm talking about our division collectively.

But I guess you could argue its irrelevant, bec. for that season, we were winning

You haven't even come close to this topic. Alright your team was the best in the East.

 

[AtlCB]

#1 - NFC-East

2002: 34 games won (placed #1 in NFC)
2003: 31 games won (tied all in NFC)
2004: 31 games won (placed #2 in NFC)
2005: 36 games won (placed #1 in NFC)

To be more accurate, you should take out the Eagles records.

2002: 22 games won
2003: 19 games won
2004: 18 games won
2005: 30 games won

I would say there is a huge difference.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I think the eagles for several years had 6 easy games to allow them to win the division and get home field in the playoffs, which always helps in the cold northeast in january.

but with washington, giants and dallas loading up, they won't have 6 easy victories and have to battle to get to 3-3 against those teams, which makes the rest of their schedule even more important and tougher.

they can't cruise to playoffs anymore and they might struggle to get to 9-7 and miss the playoffs. I don't see them as a dominant force any longer, plus their team is starting to get older.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

I do not think that the Eagles window has closed just yet, but I will say this season will tell us for sure if the Eagles still have it or not.

I'll Buy Into that ...only because it makes sense; not Because I'm an Eagles fan. Now everyone has made strides to improve upon areas they felt needed strengthening. This year will definitle show that the NFC-East is the dominant division in our conference ...once again!

Regardless of any numbers the NFCE has been putrid for years. Nothing will change that fact.

I hear what you're saying, but you aren't backing it up with anything ...no offense. I have to respectfully disagree, unless you come up with the evidence to support your claim ...otherwise it's all pontification and opinionated.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

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Why has an eagles thread been started at CowboysZone.com ?


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[Phoenix-Talon]

Put it this way, the Eagles then are like the Seahawks now. Both teams benefited from a weak division and like you said the NFC in general hasn't been as strong as the AFC in recent years. The Eagles are now on the outside looking in and don't have 4-5 rollover games against weaker, building teams within the division. I think the Eagles need a running game if they want to contend again.

Your opinion is understandable, but your logic is soiled. I mean come on, while I can sit here and say that TO is going to bring an improvement to your offense, by contributing to reception yardage; yet, not like the player, that says volumes to your ability to look beyond the need to demonstrate poor logic.

Listen, if you can write me and tell me that the Eagles need a ground game, the media can write about Andy Rein needing to support a ground attack, and Andy Reid himself commenting on how the new Eagles Offensive coopdinator has had success with moving the ball on the ground ...what does that tell you? To me it says we intend to re-introduce our ground game to open up some things In the open field.

Work with me heah!

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Getting McNabb back healthy and the Draft that they had? No, I don't think they're quite flat lining yet. They'll have to adjust to life with lesser WRs, and likely will rely more on the run, but it's a well coached team with talent.

Hos,

What's your opinion about the NFC-East's strength during 2000 - 2005?

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

To be more accurate, you should take out the Eagles records.

I'll bet you do ...especially in 2003!

 

[AmishCowboy]

I believe that Window has been Slammed shut! :laugh2: :laugh1:

 

[illone]

Your opinion is understandable, but your logic is soiled. I mean come on, while I can sit here and say that TO is going to bring an improvement to your offense, by contributing to reception yardage; yet, not like the player, that says volumes to your ability to look beyond the need to demonstrate poor logic.

Listen, if you can write me and tell me that the Eagles need a ground game, the media can write about Andy Rein needing to support a ground attack, and Andy Reid himself commenting on how the new Eagles Offensive coopdinator has had success with moving the ball on the ground ...what does that tell you? To me it says we intend to re-introduce our ground game to open up some things In the open field.

Work with me heah!

First of all TO is not on my team. We'd never take the risk on that guy.

Second, while you may intend to establish a ground game nothing has been done yet. A simple nod by Reid isn't enough for me to contend that they have one. What we've seen in recent seasons is an offense focused on the pass and built a running game from the pass. Westbrook is a talented guy who can be relied on to catch out of the backfield but cant run between the tackles or carry the ball 25-30 times a game on a consistent basis.

 

[Vintage]

Whoa ...slow down. I believe you! You're talking about your team I'm talking about our division collectively.

The point was, if you factor out our 10 wins....its 21 wins for the remaining three teams. And your record was?....11 wins? 10? So, its more like 5 or 6 wins a piece for the Commanders/Giants.

And we weren't really a talented 10 win team...a lucky one.

My point was, the NFC East was weak...and the only reason we won 10 games is bec. of it being weak, us getting lucky, and a weaker NFC.

You haven't even come close to this topic. Alright your team was the best in the East.

Where did I say we were the best in the East? Where did I even hint at implying that?

 

[StarAmongStars]

The Egirls are the only team that scares me in our division....and I won't be surprised one bit if the standings flip flop in 2006, and the foreskins and midgets finish 3rd and 4th respectively.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

=YoMick]Why has an eagles thread been started at CowboysZone.com ?

First off ...calm down! This Isn't an Eagles Thread ...it's a NFC Conference question to Cowboy fans; and anyone else who'd like to dialogue. From the appearance of your response, you must have thought this was also an emoticon-related dialogue.

 

[dmq]

I would say no. They draft too well for the window to be shutting down any time soon. Plus, they are well under the cap. So, its not like they are cap tied. Plus they have continuity in the coaching department and ownership.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

First of all TO is not on my team. We'd never take the risk on that guy.

I apologize for the oversight; we actually wanted Randle El. He and Moss are going to reek havoc! ...If Brunell stays healthy!