Has Zeke lost some of his speed?

[Toruk_Makto]

Barkley will beat Zeke to the 40 yard line but Zeke will beat Barkley to the 100 yard line he has a higher top speed

Posts like this are an absolute joke based in exactly 0 reality.

Barkley literally hit the top speed of any ball carrier in week 1. Zeke has never had that distinction. Barkley ran a faster 40 at a higher weight. What makes you think that Zeke magically hits a higher to speed? He's never hit a higher top speed than Barkley's best and he is slower in the shorter runs as indicated by the 40.

The pretzel shapes people will twist themselves into to defense an obvious untruth is amazing.

 

[Wezsh0T]

According to what I could find, Zeke is slowing down.

Fastest recorded speed in 2016 was 21.5mph.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2016/5

Fastest recorded speed in 2017 was 20.35mph.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2017/7

Fastest recorded speed in 2018 was 20.27mph
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2018/18

He hasn't really broken any runs long enough to be measured with top speed in 2019.

 

[Beast_from_East]

According to what I could find, Zeke is slowing down.

Fastest recorded speed in 2016 was 21.5mph.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2016/5

Fastest recorded speed in 2017 was 20.35mph.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2017/7

Fastest recorded speed in 2018 was 20.27mph
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2018/18

He hasn't really broken any runs long enough to be measured with top speed in 2019.

Somebody posted a stat that in the last three seasons, Zeke's longest run is 41 yards.

He really is not a homerun back that is a threat to take it to the house every time he touches it, he is more of a workhorse back that will just wear out a defense.

 

[stinkface]

McCaffrey had more touches last year and in college. No signs of any injury at all.

Zeke had 304 carries last year versus 219 for McCaffrey. Zeke caught 77 balls, Mc caught 107. Total touches 381 to 326 in Zekes favor.

In 2017 even with Zeke being forced out by the Commish for 6 games, in his 10 games his stats were:

Zeke 242 carries, versus 117 for Mc. Zeke caught 26 balls, Mc caught 80. Total touches 268 to 197 in Zekes favor.

Stats are stubborn things.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Let Christian run the ball as much as Zeke does and he will be a broken down man and that speed will be gone. Need to see some more of Cook. He seems a tad brittle based on how much time he's out of the line up.

Not their fault that their teams don't feature them as much as Zeke. From the limited time they are on the field they produce at a high level.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Zeke had 304 carries last year versus 219 for McCaffrey. Zeke caught 77 balls, Mc caught 107. Total touches 381 to 326 in Zekes favor.

In 2017 even with Zeke being forced out by the Commish for 6 games, in his 10 games his stats were:

Zeke 242 carries, versus 117 for Mc. Zeke caught 26 balls, Mc caught 80. Total touches 268 to 197 in Zekes favor.

Stats are stubborn things.

Who mentioned 2017...? Nobody.

 

[StuckMojo]

From what i read on this board Cowboys fans think Barkley is Superman and Zeke is a fat,slow bum

 

[shabazz]

Who mentioned 2017...? Nobody.

Your right.....all that wasted research not to mention the copy and pasting..all for naught

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

From what i read on this board Cowboys fans think Barkley is Superman and Zeke is a fat,slow bum

No, that’s not the case other than joking around.

Our fans are just an over sensitive bunch. Zeke has to be the best at everything. If you say Barkley is faster (which should be apparent to everyone) they get offended and claim Zeke’s faster.

I think it’s pretty amazing that Zeke averages 4.6-4.7 YPC despite the fact he doesn’t have a bunch of long runs skewing the average.

That said, I prefer the 2016 Zeke over what we have now.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

According to what I could find, Zeke is slowing down.

Fastest recorded speed in 2016 was 21.5mph.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2016/5

Fastest recorded speed in 2017 was 20.35mph.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2017/7

Fastest recorded speed in 2018 was 20.27mph
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2018/18

He hasn't really broken any runs long enough to be measured with top speed in 2019.

He's probably learned to pace himself, after playing 13 or so games in college, after a few 16-17 game years he realizes that it's a long haul, youthful enthusiasm gives way to reality.

But also he got a lot of free passes to the secondary in 2016, teams now know his speed so they will maybe hang back another couple of feet, so that he has to pick his way through defenders before he can cut loose...

 

[Future]

What a completely ridiculous take, smh.

If you can’t understand why facing 8+ men in the box as a RB is inherently different and more difficult than having facing 5 or 6 then I can’t help you.

You got your little flimsy 11-personnel theory busted up by showing you exactly what the Cowboys were doing with Noah Brown bringing him and blocking at the LOS.

Your response was “oh, you’re proving my point; there’s more defenders than blockers” which is effectively saying you don’t have a freakin’ clue how stupid your theory is.

Why?

Because it doesn’t freakin’ matter how many blockers the offense has. The metric looks at the number of defenders stacked in the box at the snap.

Here’s an entire article on how Brown is utilized including in 11-personnel: https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/in...ew-light-end-noah-brown-makes-big-impact/amp/

I didn't say it isn't different. I said that using 8-men in the box exclusively isn't accurate.

Brown played less than 10 snaps a game, he's irrelevant.

 

[Aviano90]

According to what I could find, Zeke is slowing down.

Fastest recorded speed in 2016 was 21.5mph.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2016/5

Fastest recorded speed in 2017 was 20.35mph.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2017/7

Fastest recorded speed in 2018 was 20.27mph
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2018/18

He hasn't really broken any runs long enough to be measured with top speed in 2019.

He was actually 21.8 MPH in week 16 in 2016.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2016/16

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I didn't say it isn't different. I said that using 8-men in the box exclusively isn't accurate.

Brown played less than 10 snaps a game, he's irrelevant.

Why isn’t it accurate if you’re simply looking at how many snaps a RB faced against a “stacked box?”

Of course you’re trying to marginalize Brown because he undercuts your entire theory re: 11-personnel.

Most games an offense will have 45-50 snaps. Brown playing 10 snaps is significant given the fact they didn’t typically trot him out there to run routes. I provided another link showing multiple clips of different plays he went into motion and served as a run blocker.

 

[Shane612]

and they (Cowboys staff) did that to him because Felix was already having major issues with durability and staying healthy...

Makes you wonder how Tony Dorsett played for 11 years.

 

[quickccc]

Makes you wonder how Tony Dorsett played for 11 years.

especially when playing on that awful artificial turf around the NFL.
I've heard Landry's insistence to keep Dorsett's touches and carries down around the 18- range may have had a helping hand in Dorsett's longevity career.
but for someone his smallish size, Dorsett's toughness and durability was amazing.

 

[Shane612]

especially when playing on that awful artificial turf around the NFL.
I've heard Landry's insistence to keep Dorsett's touches and carries down around the 18- range may have had a helping hand in Dorsett's longevity career.
but for someone his smallish size, Dorsett's toughness and durability was amazing.

I believe, after he retired, TD credited Tom Landry for his long career.

 

[Cowpolk]

Posts like this are an absolute joke based in exactly 0 reality.

Barkley literally hit the top speed of any ball carrier in week 1. Zeke has never had that distinction. Barkley ran a faster 40 at a higher weight. What makes you think that Zeke magically hits a higher to speed? He's never hit a higher top speed than Barkley's best and he is slower in the shorter runs as indicated by the 40.

The pretzel shapes people will twist themselves into to defense an obvious untruth is amazing.

What i stated is facts Zeke would beat Barkley in a 100 meter race

 

[ryanbabs]

Zeke is like Emmitt, he was never a homerun runner. but if he gets out there he is hard to run down, just like Emmitt was, but he is not a homerun hitter.

He was certainly a home run hitter his rookie year.

 

[Cowfan75]

Zeke is like Emmitt, he was never a homerun runner. but if he gets out there he is hard to run down, just like Emmitt was, but he is not a homerun hitter.

I remember Emmitt taking many balls to the house from distance. IMO, Emmitt was always a home run hitter until his later years.

 

[blueblood70]

I had to look this up but all this talk on TD I wanted to see his career..

Odd his best season was 342 carries just over 1600yards but only 4tds and 4.8 YPC 102 APG(thats Zekes normal output when used this much) Tony had 3 years of over 300 carries..

career 4.3 YPC-which is about 73YPG

http://www.nfl.com/player/tonydorsett/2513084/careerstats

one of the greatest DC RBs of all time for sure..

Zeke compares very favorably with TD numbers,

Although i believe he runs more like ES..regardless of others opinions..