Hate to nitpick but it's a given Romo can't throw a fade

[Staubacher]

Creating this thread is the complete opposite of hating to nitpick. In fact it shows a deep love of nitpicking.

I'm happy we have our QB back. Ecstatic! I think the defense will keep improving, esp the pass rush, and we're back to being one of the better teams.

But over the last few weeks, CBs are really overplaying that back shoulder route and we haven't come off that with a fade route.

Actually think, when was the last time you saw Romo throw a fade route? The way the CB played Dez that fade route was wide open.

It wasn't Martellus's fault. It's not Dez's fault. It's not Escobar's fault or any other great leaping receiver's fault. Romo just can't throw a fade route!

 

[joseephuss]

Creating this thread is the complete opposite of hating to nitpick. In fact it shows a deep love of nitpicking.

Well said.

 

[5Stars]

Well it's your thread .. I assume you already did all the research prior to posting this.. So now you are changing from Romo just can't throw the fade to he hasn't thrown in years .. What's next he hasn't thrown it this year .. Then he hasn't thrown it in in 3 games, 3 quarters ,.. 3 minutes ... I have seen many a game and I'm sure many others have as well where Romo has done just fine with the fade .. I'm sure someone who is bored can find plenty of plays to provide for you .. Then you can admit your wrong ..
Me I will stand by my statement ..
Nice thread though.. Good debate subject

Cowboy fans are sure glad we have Romo.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Not sure Romo can't throw the fade as it is rarely called.

The back shoulder throw is getting very predictable. That is a much bigger concern IMO.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

There is literally zero reason to do anything different with the Dez back shoulder play, it is extremely low risk. The DB is never going to be able to grab the ball outright through Dez and it will usually be all he can do just to knock it away. Now when we try it with someone who doesn't know what they're doing, like Esco, that's when I could see someone jumping in front.

 

[21Savage]

There is literally zero reason to do anything different with the Dez back shoulder play, it is extremely low risk. The DB is never going to be able to grab the ball outright through Dez and it will usually be all he can do just to knock it away. Now when we try it with someone who doesn't know what they're doing, like Esco, that's when I could see someone jumping in front.

We're talking about one of the great jump ball WRs the league has ever seen. And you're advocating being obstinate with a play that has been resulting in more incompletions than completions recently because the greatest con is a PBU? When the very essence of the DBs overplaying that is that the fade route is wide open.

 

[21Savage]

Not sure Romo can't throw the fade as it is rarely called.

The back shoulder throw is getting very predictable. That is a much bigger concern IMO.

This is really the story I'm trying to tell. It's become predictable. So what do you do off that. You throw a slant (a much riskier throw) or a fade. Why are we not willing to throw a fade in that situation? When was the last time you saw Romo complete a fade route to a wide out?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I'm happy we have our QB back. Ecstatic! I think the defense will keep improving, esp the pass rush, and we're back to being one of the better teams.

But over the last few weeks, CBs are really overplaying that back shoulder route and we haven't come off that with a fade route.

Actually think, when was the last time you saw Romo throw a fade route? The way the CB played Dez that fade route was wide open.

It wasn't Martellus's fault. It's not Dez's fault. It's not Escobar's fault or any other great leaping receiver's fault. Romo just can't throw a fade route!

The fade is statistically the worst redzone route you can run.

Also stupid post.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

We're talking about one of the great jump ball WRs the league has ever seen. And you're advocating being obstinate with a play that has been resulting in more incompletions than completions recently because the greatest con is a PBU? When the very essence of the DBs overplaying that is that the fade route is wide open.

True, it has been a bit less of a sure thing lately but I would need to see a lot more data to conclude that it's anything more than just a rough patch. Up until recently the combo of Dez and Tony on the back shoulder play has been extremely reliable. Also, I don't agree that jump ball skills are best for the fade route as much as timing and getting off the line (though it surely doesn't hurt).

 

[adbutcher]

Until Romo throws a fade and it completely sails over the receiver's head, floating into the stands, I'll reserve my judgement.

This.

I don't understand why some of our fans are sooooo fatalistic. Win, lose, or draw we have some that will piss away a silver lined cloud....

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

That back shoulder to Dez in the end zone has become pretty predictable. Seems those db's are guessing right on them. Having said that, I'm not crazy about fade passes inside the 5..just too much of a low percentage play imo.

Unless you have Dez Bryant

 

[Jenky]

This is really the story I'm trying to tell. It's become predictable. So what do you do off that. You throw a slant (a much riskier throw) or a fade. Why are we not willing to throw a fade in that situation? When was the last time you saw Romo complete a fade route to a wide out?

Your gripe should be with the play calling then, not "Romo can't throw a fade."

 

[DejectedFan1996]

I agree and disagree.

The fade isn't one of Romo's strongest throws but doesn't mean he is unable to do it.

If memory serves correct, he threw a fade to Dez last year vs the Chargers (Dez made a leaping catch to get it), a fade in the Detroit game last year (Dez leaped up and caught it with 1 hand and his helmet with a few defenders on him) and then again against the Raiders on Thanksgiving on Mike Jenkins.

One could argue those throws were technically not fade's I guess. The last perfect fade I recall was to T.O. in the Giants playoff game during the 2007 year.

 

[BARRYRAY]

Romo has some major cojones here.You do understand he has broken bones in his back to go with the other disc stuff.Seriously he may never win the Super Bowl but he is as tough as they come.I'm pretty sure alot of QBS with his back couldn't throw either.We are so screwed if goes down.

 

[cowboys2233]

He can throw the fade just fine. If anything, Tony has trouble with the deep ball. He threw a good deep ball today to dez.

Tony has trouble with the deep ball? Since when? I'll bet he's quite a bit better than average. You know, like the rest of his game.

 

[Setackin]

It's not romos fault, THE ONLY ROUTE DEZ RUNS IN THE END ZONE is the fade... it's not 2009 defenses know how to play the fade... even the saints don't use it much...

 

[Beast_from_East]

Its not that Romo cant throw the fade, its just the play is never called by Linehan because it is so low percentage.

There are literally 5 or 6 other pass plays to run before going to a fade route.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Romo can't throw the fade? Dez and Romo's fade is not possible to defend. What happened today......didn't work. Maybe they need to get their timing together but the fade route for me is the only play i'll give Romo and co. a pass for abandoning the run in the redzone. Its their money maker.

 

[Sinister]

Romo has thrown several fade routes this year and thrown them successfully go back and watch the Seattle game. I'm not saying he hasn't successfully completed a fade route since, but the fade routes that were completed during that game really stand out in my mind.

"Its a given Romo cant throw a fade."

Statement is just wrong not a little incorrect or misinformed, just plain wrong.

 

[gimmesix]

I'm happy we have our QB back. Ecstatic! I think the defense will keep improving, esp the pass rush, and we're back to being one of the better teams.

But over the last few weeks, CBs are really overplaying that back shoulder route and we haven't come off that with a fade route.

Actually think, when was the last time you saw Romo throw a fade route? The way the CB played Dez that fade route was wide open.

It wasn't Martellus's fault. It's not Dez's fault. It's not Escobar's fault or any other great leaping receiver's fault. Romo just can't throw a fade route!

I think he throws the back-shoulder to Dez because it's very difficult to defend and he'll connect on it 9 out of 10 times. It maximizes the physical play of Dez by allowing him to fight the defender off and make the catch.
That being said, I don't think Romo is that comfortable with the fade pass for some reason. Doesn't mean he can't throw it, but I think he just prefers the back-shoulder throw.