Heard this on the Radio today: Interesting Murray Stat

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Didn't know if this had been talked about yet.

DM is averaging 80 yards a game before contact is made. That is unfreekin believable. I love Murray and how he handled business this year. But, to average 80 yards a game before contact is made speaks volumes of how well this OL has played. I know, we've heard it all year, but this line is great.

With that being said, how do you run the ball that well, yet refuse to run it on from the 2 yard line multiple times. And then again decide not to run the ball again when it's 2nd and 2 in OT. I don't get it....
 

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Its stupid now because it didn't work. But ALL season they have done this. They've had GREAT success in the redzone. Usually i'd agree that Murray should be the first option but if that next option is Dez on a rookie? TWICE? I'm going to Dez. I trust Dez more in the redzone than I do Murray and his potential fumbles. Everyone has been LOVING Linehan as have I, but he didn't do much different yesterday than he's been doing all season. This was NOT the first time the Cowboys have abandoned the run in the redzone and gone to Dez. Its just the first time this season it didn't work.
 

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Its stupid now because it didn't work. But ALL season they have done this. They've had GREAT success in the redzone. Usually i'd agree that Murray should be the first option but if that next option is Dez on a rookie? TWICE? I'm going to Dez. I trust Dez more in the redzone than I do Murray and his potential fumbles. Everyone has been LOVING Linehan as have I, but he didn't do much different yesterday than he's been doing all season. This was NOT the first time the Cowboys have abandoned the run in the redzone and gone to Dez. Its just the first time this season it didn't work.

But in OT, on 2nd and 3, there is literally NO reason to put the ball in the air, especially when your QB is a bit hobbled. I wasn't opposed to Romo going back into the game if the doctors felt like he couldn't do more damage to it, but the play calling in OT very much reminded me of the Cowboys of the past 2 years.
 

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But in OT, on 2nd and 3, there is literally NO reason to put the ball in the air, especially when your QB is a bit hobbled. I wasn't opposed to Romo going back into the game if the doctors felt like he couldn't do more damage to it, but the play calling in OT very much reminded me of the Cowboys of the past 2 years.

I'm in agreement with you here. But its true to what Linehan has done all season. He didn't all of a sudden change his gameplan up. I've said it all year. The BIG difference between this year and last year besides the offensive line is that this team is simply EXECUTING better.
 

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I think even Linehan had said he would probably regret not running it on second and 2 in OT. He has called some great games this year, with this one was a stinker. If he can average that in the second half of the season, well, that is better than what we have had before.
 

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Its stupid now because it didn't work. But ALL season they have done this. They've had GREAT success in the redzone. Usually i'd agree that Murray should be the first option but if that next option is Dez on a rookie? TWICE? I'm going to Dez. I trust Dez more in the redzone than I do Murray and his potential fumbles. Everyone has been LOVING Linehan as have I, but he didn't do much different yesterday than he's been doing all season. This was NOT the first time the Cowboys have abandoned the run in the redzone and gone to Dez. Its just the first time this season it didn't work.

Washington, Atlanta, St. Louis and Cleveland QBs have higher redzone passer ratings than Romo.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-rating-in-red-zone/2014/

Just sayin'.
 

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Yes our OL doesn't help either with the poor pass blocking also, giving Romo little time to find a receiver.

The only game where Romo hasn't had all day to throw was Monday night. Does it matter why, anyway?
 

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This OL would make a lot of people look really good. Murray is solid, but not spectacular, which is good enough for us now, but not worthy of a large contract IMO. Don't even get me started on putting Romo back in or the play calling. Will see if our coaches learn from their mistakes.
 

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Didn't know if this had been talked about yet.

DM is averaging 80 yards a game before contact is made. That is unfreekin believable. I love Murray and how he handled business this year. But, to average 80 yards a game before contact is made speaks volumes of how well this OL has played. I know, we've heard it all year, but this line is great.

With that being said, how do you run the ball that well, yet refuse to run it on from the 2 yard line multiple times. And then again decide not to run the ball again when it's 2nd and 2 in OT. I don't get it....

This is why Murray will not get a big contract. Any back with good speed/acceleration and vision will thrive behind this OL. Add in the one fumble per game and I could see the front office holding firm on their contract numbers for the RB position.
 

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But in OT, on 2nd and 3, there is literally NO reason to put the ball in the air, especially when your QB is a bit hobbled. I wasn't opposed to Romo going back into the game if the doctors felt like he couldn't do more damage to it, but the play calling in OT very much reminded me of the Cowboys of the past 2 years.

If I were Garrett, I would have gone to each member of the offensive line and Murray and told them that we win or lose on your ability to get 10 yards in 4 plays. I would have told Tony absolutely no passing audibles. If you change the play it can only be to a better running play. It was a perfect time to put the game in the running game's hands and he blew it. I bet he is regretting that decision even as we speak.
 

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Yes our OL doesn't help either with the poor pass blocking also, giving Romo little time to find a receiver.

Guys, I don't really think it was the OL as much as the scheme we used. In an all out blitz situation, there is always going to be one guy unaccounted for.
 

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Didn't know if this had been talked about yet.

DM is averaging 80 yards a game before contact is made. That is unfreekin believable. I love Murray and how he handled business this year. But, to average 80 yards a game before contact is made speaks volumes of how well this OL has played. I know, we've heard it all year, but this line is great.

With that being said, how do you run the ball that well, yet refuse to run it on from the 2 yard line multiple times. And then again decide not to run the ball again when it's 2nd and 2 in OT. I don't get it....

This has to be one of the great mysteries of the universe. :huh:
 

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Its stupid now because it didn't work. But ALL season they have done this. They've had GREAT success in the redzone. Usually i'd agree that Murray should be the first option but if that next option is Dez on a rookie? TWICE? I'm going to Dez. I trust Dez more in the redzone than I do Murray and his potential fumbles. Everyone has been LOVING Linehan as have I, but he didn't do much different yesterday than he's been doing all season. This was NOT the first time the Cowboys have abandoned the run in the redzone and gone to Dez. Its just the first time this season it didn't work.

All Dez has to do is catch the ball and this team is 7-1 right now.
 

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Washington, Atlanta, St. Louis and Cleveland QBs have higher redzone passer ratings than Romo.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-rating-in-red-zone/2014/

Just sayin'.

So are you going to let that start dictate how bad or good we are in the redzone? We're #6 in Redzone efficiency. I think that's a far greater representation of how good or "bad" we are in the redzone than a few teams who don't get in the redzone as many times as the Cowboys do.

Rams are 26th in the league in red zone appearances, Washington is 22nd, and Atlanta is 30th. Cleveland surprisingly is 10th while the Cowboys are 16th.
 

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This is why Murray will not get a big contract. Any back with good speed/acceleration and vision will thrive behind this OL. Add in the one fumble per game and I could see the front office holding firm on their contract numbers for the RB position.

I hope so.
 

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All Dez has to do is catch the ball and this team is 7-1 right now.

Sadly.....I agree. But that would also imply that Dez is why we lost....which I wouldn't put SOLELY on him....but he deserves some credit. He has to step up especially when a backup qb is in there. Weeden laid it out there for him. Sure it wasn't as pleasant as those fade routes Romo gives him but the balls were put where Dez should get them.
 

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So are you going to let that start dictate how bad or good we are in the redzone? We're #6 in Redzone efficiency. I think that's a far greater representation of how good or "bad" we are in the redzone than a few teams who don't get in the redzone as many times as the Cowboys do.

Rams are 26th in the league in red zone appearances, Washington is 22nd, and Atlanta is 30th. Cleveland surprisingly is 10th while the Cowboys are 16th.

Not sure what you're asking, but if I'm coaching the Dallas Cowboys, we're running the football more when we get it to the Zone, especially inside the 10.

The post you quoted was in response to the assertion that Dallas is "GREAT' in the redzone and should therefore keep throwing passes in goal to go situations. My point was, a lot of crappy teams are better at passing in the zone than we are. Maybe we should do what we do best and run the ball.
 
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