News: Helman: Stop Trying To Make Dalton About Dak

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Doomsday101, May 4, 2020.

  1. ChronicCowboy

    ChronicCowboy Well-Known Member

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    No one is giving up two firsts for Dak. Teams learned from the Bradford/Cousins debacle. Average QBs aren’t worth mortgaging your future.
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  2. MyFairLady

    MyFairLady Well-Known Member

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    Probably true but if so then why are we considering paying him such a mega deal.
  3. BigD_95

    BigD_95 Well-Known Member

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    Then tell Dak to sign a contract and it wouldnt be talked about
  4. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I wish they would come to an agreement. I think eventually he will sign be it a 1 year franchise tag or both sides will come to a longer term agreement. We could just as easily say Dallas should just do the 4 years and be done with it.
  5. Silverstar

    Silverstar Well-Known Member

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    It's a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma.
  6. G2

    G2 Taco Engineer

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    You're assuming a ton here. They tagged Prescott for 30+ million, signed a vet for 1 year cheap and released Rush. All that illustrates is that they bulked up the back up QB spot more than in the past. You don't spend 30+ million on a player that you aren't positive you want to keep.
  7. SteveTheCowboy

    SteveTheCowboy Well-Known Member

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    The real question is..."how much better"?

    Hopefully new coach will give a sincere chance to find out and not hide him on the bench when the game is out of reach or Dak is injured and still playing.
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  8. SteveTheCowboy

    SteveTheCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Funny! :D

    Maybe he sits next to MM and Stephen during the meetings? Or Zoom or whatever. Yeah...must be that.
  9. G2

    G2 Taco Engineer

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    Arguably the best back up in the NFL. This was to avoid a situation like what we saw in 2015 where our back ups were useless.
  10. jday

    jday Well-Known Member

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    And I'm not saying it's more or less one or the other.

    I think Dalton and his agent saw an opportunity and approached Dallas so I agree that the reason for doing this was not the negotiations.

    But with or without intent, Dak and his agent do not have the same leverage they had before Dalton was added.

    It's that simple. :grin:
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    ABQCOWBOY Regular Joe....

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    It may not be possible to do the 4 years. We don't know what the Guaranteed money looks like, the upfront money and the actual numbers associated are. For all we know, it may not be a doable situation with just four years.

    I will say this, I am not in favor of the team doing anything that effects the security of the team negatively. I'd rather trade him and find another QB then get ourselves into a bad deal.
  12. cowboyed

    cowboyed Well-Known Member

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    That's the way I look at it as well.
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  13. krimson

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    Yeah, I's the excited about our team this year. I just hope that our season isn't derailed by this pandemic.

    The guitar is actually a Dean USA Hardtail that I painted myself.

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  14. black label

    black label Well-Known Member

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    problem when backup comes in and is good as the starter lol
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  15. buybuydandavis

    buybuydandavis Well-Known Member

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    Signing Dalton would have been the thing to do even if we already had agreed to terms with Dak.

    For all we know, they already have agreed to terms, but were holding off announcing it, precisely to sucker a guy like Dalton with visions of being our starter into signing a below-market contract.

    Would be funny for them to sign Dak tomorrow. Dalton go "Doh!"
  16. CCBoy

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    Bet he signs in the neighborhood of 34+...and for four years?
  17. Pantone282C

    Pantone282C Well-Known Member

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    Its been a while since I was this excited about the team!
    Nice paint job on the guitar. At first glance, I thought it was a Gibson, but the body shape at the cutaways looked a bit different, so I wasn't sure. Gibsons are more symmetrical I think.
  18. CowboyoWales

    CowboyoWales Well-Known Member

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    Your first sentence is correct....signing Dalton was the right thing to do.

    If it were a secondary consideration or it was used to force Dak's hand … doesn't really matter.

    What does matter is that:

    1) We are covered if Dak holds out
    2) We've got an upgrade to replace him (a player playing with a better offence)
    3) Dak cant hold out as we've got a replacement
    4) Dak needs to play to prove he's worth a $30+ per contract ….. at the moment on the open market he's not.
    5) Because of number 4, he's probably ok with a one year Franchise Tag.
    6) The uncertainty how the NFL will look in 20/21 ….. if there's a chance its restricted or contracted (or even cancelled) I could see Dak being cut … why pay $30m for nothing??

    With so much uncertainty there's no immediate rush for either side to sign.

    Btw - not that informed on football contracts but if he wants 2 years and JJ wants a 4 year, couldn't they give a 2 year contract with 2 years add at a rate depending on his performance?
  19. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I think Dalton knows full well he was brought in as a backup. For him this is great a 1 year deal and does not have to uproot his family since they live in Dallas area.

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