Help! Adam can you clarify Commanders cap?

[dalsyk]

I realize the new CBA helped the Commanders but they still had to redue contracts and cut some players just to get under the cap! Now they have all the cap room in the world! Does the league office verify there cap level? What keeps them from reworking deals and giving the players the money under the table? I would really appreciate a definate answer. Thanks

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

there is no cap in Washington

 

[dalsyk]

there is no cap in Washington

Oh, well that clears things up! Thanks

 

[Cajuncowboy]

I really think there is something funny going on here with them. It makes no sense. I know they are using the credit card mentality but the bill never comes due for them. Something isn't right. Maybe that's why Tags is thinking about retiring because he is playing fast and loose with the skins numbers.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

I'm not Adam but I can clarify a few things for you. Yes the Commanders were going to struggle to get under the old cap but no one anticipated the almost $4 million in cap relief that Arrington gave them. With the additional cap space under the new CBA the Commanders were able to get comfortably under even w/o the Arrington money.

The way the deals were structured, Randel El, Archuletta and perhaps even Lloyd could have fit in the extra Arrington $$.

Carter easily fits in the space created with a few of their cuts, most notably Walt Harris.

An Abraham acquisition really pushes them back towards the cap limit but they really don't have to worry about signing rookies.

Where they may have a problem is that most teams like to have a few million in wiggle room going into camp in case of early injuries. They probably won't have that luxury.

 

[Joe Gibbs II]

I realize the new CBA helped the Commanders but they still had to redue contracts and cut some players just to get under the cap! Now they have all the cap room in the world! Does the league office verify there cap level? What keeps them from reworking deals and giving the players the money under the table? I would really appreciate a definate answer. Thanks

Well we dont have a cap.. this is true.


As for Walt, Bowen, and Noble they were going to get cut anyway. Bowen had been hurt for a long while (I would have liked him to stay) and may have been the only one cut for cap purposes. Walt was a mess for many games and Noble will retire.

As for Arrington, we cut him because he was sucking so much money but wasnt producing much. He gave up 4 mil to leave so it was very mutual.

 

[dalsyk]

I'm not Adam but I can clarify a few things for you. Yes the Commanders were going to struggle to get under the old cap but no one anticipated the almost $4 million in cap relief that Arrington gave them. With the additional cap space under the new CBA the Commanders were able to get comfortably under even w/o the Arrington money.

The way the deals were structured, Randel El, Archuletta and perhaps even Lloyd could have fit in the extra Arrington $$.

Carter easily fits in the space created with a few of their cuts, most notably Walt Harris.

An Abraham acquisition really pushes them back towards the cap limit but they really don't have to worry about signing rookies.

Where they may have a problem is that most teams like to have a few million in wiggle room going into camp in case of early injuries. They probably won't have that luxury.

Thanks! That helps some but you got to admit it looks fishy.

 

[KINGBRICE_28]

I agree....but I like it

 

[SDogo]

Can you just picture the global melt down in Commanders land once they lose their first game!

 

[leotisbrown]

I don't not care what mostly they say about the DeadSkins to me its plane simple: THEY MUST BE CHEATING SOMEHOW!!!

Ihate Snyder and want him to be hurt with loss of money and jail time for his theiving ways on the cap manipulates.

Jerry show me something now I been praising on you for a long time but it gets harder to feel good with Snyder doing all that spending spree on us and all.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Can you just picture the global melt down in Commanders land once they lose their first game!

Can you imagine when they open the season 0-4 what will happen? The blood letting will begin. These guys are the new Arizona Cardinals. They can't win anything anymore unless there is a strike season.

 

[the kid 05]

oh it will be horrible.cuz the streets will be flooded from our tears...of laughin so hard

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Thanks! That helps some but you got to admit it looks fishy.

It's not fishy at all. The Commanders could have somewhat easily gotten under the old $94.5 million cap with the Arrington money (again this was never anticipated by anyone predicting "cap hell"). With the additional $6 million or so in new money under the revised cap (remember, the minimum salary went up also so that must be factored in), they had room to sign everyone they have so far without any problems.


The only thing fishy in all of this is how the Poston's are not sued for their incompetence in handling Arrington's contract.

 

[playit12]

Well we dont have a cap.. this is true.


As for Walt, Bowen, and Noble they were going to get cut anyway. Bowen had been hurt for a long while (I would have liked him to stay) and may have been the only one cut for cap purposes. Walt was a mess for many games and Noble will retire.

As for Arrington, we cut him because he was sucking so much money but wasnt producing much. He gave up 4 mil to leave so it was very mutual.

Noble would have been cut. He should have been last year, but I guess they wanted to give him one last chance to recover.

Walt Harris probably would not have been cut. Frankly he played as well as any backup is expected to last year, and you guys are not deep enough there to throw away players.

Bowen was not a good player for you last year, but I doubt he would have been cut. He would have restructured for less, and he at least provides some insurance. Without him and Clark you have no one with any experience in the system. You knew you were going to bring in a FA, but without Bowen and Clark, you are starting a Undrafted Rookie Free Agent if your FA gets hurt.

You guys also lost your starting blocking TE, your backup center, backup FS (I think?), and at least a few others that escape me at the moment.

Again... it's just depth.. most teams can carry over 40-50 vets from season to season. The Skins generally have much more turnover at the bottom of the roster. That can be dangerous depending on injuries.

 

[playit12]

It's not fishy at all. The Commanders could have somewhat easily gotten under the old $94.5 million cap with the Arrington money (again this was never anticipated by anyone predicting "cap hell"). With the additional $6 million or so in new money under the revised cap (remember, the minimum salary went up also so that must be factored in), they had room to sign everyone they have so far without any problems.


The only thing fishy in all of this is how the Poston's are not sued for their incompetence in handling Arrington's contract.

I don't agree with the comment that they could have easily gotten under the cap. It would have involved reworking about 10 contracts by heavily pushing up the cap charges of those players in the second and third year, while also shortening some of the contract's lengths. Also it would not have provided much, if any, room for FA aquitions.

The CBA really helped the Skins. Of course it's helped everyone. Most teams just don't seem to want to blow the whole load in year one.

I expect the skins to head into the year with a full cap, while teams like Philly and Dallas will have 10+ million free under the cap.

I need to see a team actually win a superbowl with a team of Free Agents before I place any kind of credence in the success of this strategy.

 

[Joe Gibbs II]

Noble would have been cut. He should have been last year, but I guess they wanted to give him one last chance to recover.

Walt Harris probably would not have been cut. Frankly he played as well as any backup is expected to last year, and you guys are not deep enough there to throw away players.

Bowen was not a good player for you last year, but I doubt he would have been cut. He would have restructured for less, and he at least provides some insurance. Without him and Clark you have no one with any experience in the system. You knew you were going to bring in a FA, but without Bowen and Clark, you are starting a Undrafted Rookie Free Agent if your FA gets hurt.

You guys also lost your starting blocking TE, your backup center, backup FS (I think?), and at least a few others that escape me at the moment.

Again... it's just depth.. most teams can carry over 40-50 vets from season to season. The Skins generally have much more turnover at the bottom of the roster. That can be dangerous depending on injuries.

Fauria will probably fill spot of blocking TE although I hear hes not the best at it. We got portis to be the best blocking RB so I think we can get Fauria to do it as well.

Pierson can play at FS I believe and we are still trying to get Clark back but i doubt that wil happen.

We have 3 needs now if we get Abe which are 2ndary and Olineman and maybe Linebacker. Probably we will draft for all of those with our numerous picks : but I dont think it will matter. GWs system is made so you can just plug in a guy for them to do well so this is where faith comes in for us skins fans. I believe if we need to, we will just plug in a guy and he will do what is asked for. So because of this, I dont think we have that big of need for a young great rookie.

 

[kingwhicker]

I agree....but I like it

March Championships are great...if you play basketball.

 

[kingwhicker]

Fauria will probably fill spot of blocking TE although I hear hes not the best at it. We got portis to be the best blocking RB so I think we can get Fauria to do it as well.

Pierson can play at FS I believe and we are still trying to get Clark back but i doubt that wil happen.

We have 3 needs now if we get Abe which are 2ndary and Olineman and maybe Linebacker. Probably we will draft for all of those with our numerous picks : but I dont think it will matter. GWs system is made so you can just plug in a guy for them to do well so this is where faith comes in for us skins fans. I believe if we need to, we will just plug in a guy and he will do what is asked for. So because of this, I dont think we have that big of need for a young great rookie.

MIFBIS personified.

 

[NinePointOh]

The key is that NFL contracts are not guaranteed. The astronomical numbers you read actually include a ton of option bonuses, etc. that the players will never actually see. The Skins' problem isn't that they'll run out of cap space, but more likely that they'll be seeing so much turnover.

 

[Joe Gibbs II]

MIFBIS personified.

I am terribly sorry that im so dumb to not understand what MIFBIS is.

Please bless me with this knowledge.