HH31's meaningless thoughts on Pacman, McFadden, and the draft

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dbair1967;2006873 said:
I LOVE ME SOME ME!;2006866 said:
I have seen both...they both have tremendous speed....McFadden ran a slightly faster 40 time at the combine...how is there no comparison?




what are you babbling about? Nobody suggested anything about replacing Romo with Brad Johnson...soembody did suggest that if we added McFadden, that if something happened to Romo we would have a much better chance of winning then than we do now...you know, like just a few months ago where Romo injured his throwing hand and played mostly bad afterward?

David


Its no comparison because i am judging them soley on their speed on the field not in shorts and a t-shirt. I see Mcfadden get caught from behind ALOT in college. Adrian doesn't get caught from behind in the NFL........hmmmmmmmm ......alrighty.


And i didnt say anything about replacing Romo. Just said that with or without Mcfadden we have a joke of a backup qb. Maybe instead of getting Mcfadden we use all of our picks and actually get a young backup qb in the later rounds that can actually throw the ball downfield. Maybe that would help if Romo got hurt. I dunno
 

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I LOVE ME SOME ME!;2006885 said:
dbair1967;2006873 said:
Its no comparison because i am judging them soley on their speed on the field not in shorts and a t-shirt. I see Mcfadden get caught from behind ALOT in college. Adrian doesn't get caught from behind in the NFL........hmmmmmmmm ......alrighty.


there's no reason to even argue anymore with you when you type something like this

David
 

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HH31, congratulations on your impending graduation! I took issue with your generalization of Hispanics. Perhaps you meant nothing by it, but you'll understand if I thought you were insensitive. As a black male (44), I know the charges of racial hatred, both real, and imagined, from a number of perspectives. It should never be taken lightly.

And as a black male, you should consider the way you would feel, or have felt, when you were spoken ill of without provocation. Okay, back to regularly scheduled programming.
 

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Good post. Though I don't think this means we're any more likely to trade up for McFadden. And I think the "Jerry is a risk-taker" meme is EXTREMELY overblown.

And congrats on graduating.
 

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theogt;2006913 said:
Good post. Though I don't think this means we're any more likely to trade up for McFadden. And I think the "Jerry is a risk-taker" meme is EXTREMELY overblown.

And congrats on graduating.

If we trade for PacMan, I don't see how you can see it doesn't better the chances that Jerry will trade up.
 

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dalboy;2006859 said:
oops...
I just stumbled into some funny irony.

Lucky you, it smacked me like a brick. But I'm one of those either you're all in or all out kinda guys. I'm stupid like that.
 

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batman36;2006909 said:
HH31, congratulations on your impending graduation! I took issue with your generalization of Hispanics. Perhaps you meant nothing by it, but you'll understand if I thought you were insensitive. As a black male (44), I know the charges of racial hatred, both real, and imagined, from a number of perspectives. It should never be taken lightly.

And as a black male, you should consider the way you would feel, or have felt, when you were spoken ill of without provocation. Okay, back to regularly scheduled programming.

Well said batman.
 

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Woods;2006540 said:
I doubt there is anyone who doesn't want McFadden (well, maybe there are a few people), the question is how much will it cost?

I think this is where opinions differ.

Exactly!

Anybody that does not want McFadden (based on talent) is ********, period.

However, the cost must be weighted against the desire for the player. Most do not want to give up both 1st rounders and then some to get DMac in the top 3.

Now, most people talk about the Raiders at #4, and I think that is just on the borderline of what would be considered possible. However, if the trade is for anything more than our pair of ones, forget it. I know the Raiders want to move out of the pick, but they are not going to get raped in the process.

Personally, I think a trade up would only be realistic if DMac fell to 7-9 range and I dont think that happens.
 

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goshan;2007197 said:
If we trade for PacMan, I don't see how you can see it doesn't better the chances that Jerry will trade up.
Because I don't think Jerry's dumb enough to rely on Pacman at corner.
 

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CATCH17;2007279 said:
Hey hes dumb enough to sign him

Signing him isn't dumb at all, it's what you sign him for (contract) is the issue.
 

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Mansta54;2007280 said:
Signing him isn't dumb at all, it's what you sign him for (contract) is the issue.

If he was worth his baggage there is no way on earth the Titans would trade him with that secondary.

They know first hand the garbage that comes with him.
 

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CATCH17;2007279 said:
Hey hes dumb enough to sign him
Trading for and signing him are extremely low risk maneuvers. Relying on him as your answer at cornerback for the future is extremely high risk.

How do you not get the difference?
 

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You want a team of choir boys that wins........root for the San Antonio Spurs........no police blotters, no criminal histories, just a group of solid, classy, respectful, upstanding guys who play the game right and give so much of their time and money back to their community.....

in an era of All About Me, Thuggy, and Cheating Athletes......the Spurs are a breath of fresh air....unfortunately, the NBA has dropped the ball on marketing them as an image to present to the world. Even during the thuggy times of the late 90s and early Millennium, the Spurs were squeaky clean. You have black guys, white guys, hispanic guys all working and hanging out together like a family. You have educated men of different races and creeds, who are positive images for your children to look up to.

You can call Bruce Bowen a dirty player all you want....but Go back and read his biography....read about his troubled upbringing and all the trials and turmoil he had to overcome. Then he had to fight, and I mean scratch and claw his way onto a permanent NBA roster.....And he has continued to completely outwork so many others 10-15 years younger than he is. He is definitely someone I would want my children looking up to as far as work ethic and never giving in because things dont always go peachy for you.

Look at Tim Duncan....he lost both of his parents to Cancer. He lost his love, his passion (Swimming) to a Hurricane. All he did was go to Wake Forest, get an education, and become one of the best basketball players in the world.

I haven't even mentioned Robinson, Elliott, etc.....I could go on and on.....but no team I have ever rooted for has ever had the complete character and dignity as the Spurs have. I am so thankful they are based in my community.

I agree with you HH31....I do not like Pac Man at all. However, I did watch several Tennessee games that year, cause Vince is one of my favorite players. I must say that 2 players took the Titans from 0-5 to within 1 game of the playoffs........Vince Young (offensive rookie of the year) and PacMan Jones. Jones was a ballhawk on defense and lethal threat as a kick returner. I give the Titans a conditional 5 in 2009 for him. Have those conditions be not only play-based, but also conduct-based.

I sure as hell don't want McFadden. I hated Adrian Peterson, and thought he was an injury waiting to happen. However, when healthy, Peterson was a beast, almost completely unstoppable. I hate that people are trying to compare DMac to AD.....DMac is nowhere near the RB that AD is. I am not even sure that I would be happy with Felix Jones either. I am looking more at guys like Jamaal Charles (blazing speed, can run inside and out), Chris Johnson (love his speed and absolute versatility), Ray Rice (has shown he can carry the load, but not much of a receiver out of the backfield), and Kevin Smith (a workhorse, great vision and footwork, totally reminds me of Emmitt). I also like Anthony Alridge late in the draft (blazing speed, can run and catch, can return kicks). I also want to get FB Owen Schmitt.....(he can run with decent speed, but tons of power....he blocks like a beast...great hands as a receiver.....and he could be our backup Punter in case McBriar gets dinged)

As far as drafting CBs.....I like DRC, Jenkins and Cason in the 1st. I like Lee (I think he is going to be a real steal for whoever drafts him) and Godfrey in the 2nd. When it comes to safeties....I like Josh Barrett, Tyrell Johnson, David Roach, and Bobbie Williams.

We seem to have 3 guys who can play OT. However, we lack depth at OG and OC...I would like to draft G/C McDuffie and allow him to be Gurode's primary backup, while also being able to be maybe 3rd string G.

WRs that I like......Limas Sweed, James Hardy, Donnie Avery, and Dexter Jackson.

QBs I like are Josh Johnson, Paul Smith.
 

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Woods;2006540 said:
I doubt there is anyone who doesn't want McFadden (well, maybe there are a few people), the question is how much will it cost?

I think this is where opinions differ.

I DONT WANT MCFADDEN........NEVER HAVE
 

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theogt;2007277 said:
Because I don't think Jerry's dumb enough to rely on Pacman at corner.
Agree. It's one thing to roll the dice. Entirely another to go all in on one roll.
 

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Hostile;2007363 said:
Agree. It's one thing to roll the dice. Entirely another to go all in on one roll.

But the question is does he think if he gets Pacman and overspends for McFadden and gets him does that bring a Superbowl to Dallas?

Again this is not what I would do. But none of us know just how much Jerry really wants D Mac.

Honestly if it puts us in the best position to win a Lombardi im ok with overspending.
 
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