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I just question how much of the lack of talent has to do with Rod preferring "his guys" over actual talent. His insistence to use guys like Jack Crawford and Hayden over and over and over again is what kills me. That and his scheme is very limiting and vanilla. I'm tired of passing on talented players in the draft because they are too big, not twitchy enough, etc...his scheme isn't versatile enough to accommodate any kind of "hybrid" player or anyone that doesn't meet a specific criteria he is looking for.
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I got no problem with the extensions, Scotty earned his and Rod has done a decent job with the crap players we have given him.

Besides, there is no cap on coach contracts so if this season turns into a dumpster fire one of them can be sacrificed without hurting the team. The big question will be which one will Garrett throw under the bus if the season goes into the crapper?
 

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If basic football nets out a 13-3 season I'm all for it.
Obviously we were lucky since Garrett sucks, Marinelli is overrated, Free was a turnstile, our pass rush was horrible and our secondary was full of JAGs. Our FO is a joke, too. Since we didn't win the Super Bowl - because we don't spend in FA - it was a waste.
 

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I was hoping this would be the last year of the Marinelli experiment

As far as I'm concerned...this is as good as the kiss of death. This "extention" is window dressing...and nothing more. I expect this to be Marinellie's last season here after the defenses collasial flop in 2017.:rolleyes:

Going w/ a base zone defense....with no pass rush:lmao:

QBs are gonna have all day to throw...vs a patch work secondary....

Nice plan Marinelli...
 

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Not a fan of Maranelli but I get why they did it. They can literally give him NOTHING and he will turn it in to mediocrity or average. Not many can do that. He won't demand more talent. I think he likes having the odds stacked against him with personnel. It helps keep his job secure.
 

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I'm not getting the hate for Marinelli. He's a great DC.

Seriously????

Just a refresher...

Detroit Lions
On January 18, 2006, Marinelli was named the head coach of the Detroit Lions, replacing Dick Jauron. Marinelli was the fourth coach hired by Lions CEO Matt Millen, preceded by Marty Mornhinweg, Steve Mariucci and Dick Jauron.

The Marinelli era began poorly, as the Lions lost the first five games of the 2006 season before beating the Buffalo Bills 20–17. The Lions lost seven games in a row between weeks 10 and 16 before ending the year on a high note by beating the Dallas Cowboys 39–31.

The 2007 season started off well for the Lions as they started 6–2. However, the Lions lost seven out of their last eight games, and finished the 2007 season 3rd in the NFC North with a 7–9 record.

Despite a perfect 4–0 preseason, Marinelli coached the 2008 Lions to a winless 0–16 campaign, the worst and only winless season for any NFL team since the 16-game regular season was instituted in 1978 (The last team to lose all of their games was the 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who went 0–14; the last team to not win a game was the 1982 Baltimore Colts, who were 0–8–1 in a strike-shortened campaign.)

On December 26, 2008, Marinelli was fired, in addition to the majority of his coaching staff.[1] His record during the 3 seasons with the Lions was 10–38, one of the worst in NFL history for a head coach with at least three years' experience. Among coaches with at least 10 career wins, only Bert Bell has a worse record (10–46–2); Steve Spagnuolo posted the same 10–38 mark as Marinelli.


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This is how bad of a coach he is. And now we are completely turning over the defense to him this year...bringing his former scrubs like Paea in that have washed out through the league.

Why we keep entrusting more power to this guy is beyond stupid. :rolleyes:

Only in Dallas...could we employ a guy that went winless in a season...and think he's the right guy for the job. :thumbup:
 

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Seriously????

Just a refresher...

Detroit Lions
On January 18, 2006, Marinelli was named the head coach of the Detroit Lions, replacing Dick Jauron. Marinelli was the fourth coach hired by Lions CEO Matt Millen, preceded by Marty Mornhinweg, Steve Mariucci and Dick Jauron.

The Marinelli era began poorly, as the Lions lost the first five games of the 2006 season before beating the Buffalo Bills 20–17. The Lions lost seven games in a row between weeks 10 and 16 before ending the year on a high note by beating the Dallas Cowboys 39–31.

The 2007 season started off well for the Lions as they started 6–2. However, the Lions lost seven out of their last eight games, and finished the 2007 season 3rd in the NFC North with a 7–9 record.

Despite a perfect 4–0 preseason, Marinelli coached the 2008 Lions to a winless 0–16 campaign, the worst and only winless season for any NFL team since the 16-game regular season was instituted in 1978 (The last team to lose all of their games was the 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who went 0–14; the last team to not win a game was the 1982 Baltimore Colts, who were 0–8–1 in a strike-shortened campaign.)

On December 26, 2008, Marinelli was fired, in addition to the majority of his coaching staff.[1] His record during the 3 seasons with the Lions was 10–38, one of the worst in NFL history for a head coach with at least three years' experience. Among coaches with at least 10 career wins, only Bert Bell has a worse record (10–46–2); Steve Spagnuolo posted the same 10–38 mark as Marinelli.


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This is how bad of a coach he is. And now we are completely turning over the defense to him this year...bringing his former scrubs like Paea in that have washed out through the league.

Why we keep entrusting more power to this guy is beyond stupid. :rolleyes:

Only in Dallas...could we employ a guy that went winless in a season...and think he's the right guy for the job. :thumbup:


It's possible to be a great Coordinator and a lousy HC Floaty. Linehan and Marinelli failed as HCs. So did Norv Turner, Wade Phillips and Josh McDaniels. They are all considered good to great Coordinators though. The jobs are totally different as are the responsibilities.

Just my thoughts Floaty...apologies for interjecting.
 

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Seriously????

Just a refresher...

Detroit Lions
On January 18, 2006, Marinelli was named the head coach of the Detroit Lions, replacing Dick Jauron. Marinelli was the fourth coach hired by Lions CEO Matt Millen, preceded by Marty Mornhinweg, Steve Mariucci and Dick Jauron.

The Marinelli era began poorly, as the Lions lost the first five games of the 2006 season before beating the Buffalo Bills 20–17. The Lions lost seven games in a row between weeks 10 and 16 before ending the year on a high note by beating the Dallas Cowboys 39–31.

The 2007 season started off well for the Lions as they started 6–2. However, the Lions lost seven out of their last eight games, and finished the 2007 season 3rd in the NFC North with a 7–9 record.

Despite a perfect 4–0 preseason, Marinelli coached the 2008 Lions to a winless 0–16 campaign, the worst and only winless season for any NFL team since the 16-game regular season was instituted in 1978 (The last team to lose all of their games was the 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who went 0–14; the last team to not win a game was the 1982 Baltimore Colts, who were 0–8–1 in a strike-shortened campaign.)

On December 26, 2008, Marinelli was fired, in addition to the majority of his coaching staff.[1] His record during the 3 seasons with the Lions was 10–38, one of the worst in NFL history for a head coach with at least three years' experience. Among coaches with at least 10 career wins, only Bert Bell has a worse record (10–46–2); Steve Spagnuolo posted the same 10–38 mark as Marinelli.


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This is how bad of a coach he is. And now we are completely turning over the defense to him this year...bringing his former scrubs like Paea in that have washed out through the league.

Why we keep entrusting more power to this guy is beyond stupid. :rolleyes:

Only in Dallas...could we employ a guy that went winless in a season...and think he's the right guy for the job. :thumbup:
Thank you for sharing. I'm saving this one to use against you at some point late next season.
 
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Good moves from the front office, they just need to follow up by giving Marinelli some talented personnel.
 

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I just question how much of the lack of talent has to do with Rod preferring "his guys" over actual talent. His insistence to use guys like Jack Crawford and Hayden over and over and over again is what kills me. That and his scheme is very limiting and vanilla. I'm tired of passing on talented players in the draft because they are too big, not twitchy enough, etc...his scheme isn't versatile enough to accommodate any kind of "hybrid" player or anyone that doesn't meet a specific criteria he is looking for.

Jack Crawford started when 98, 92, and 94 were out. He was hardly his first choice.

He ran 2, 3, and 4 man fronts. He ran heavy, base, nickel, and dime. He brought in extra corners, used S as nickel LB and dropped DL into coverage. He ran cover 1, 2, 3, and quarters. Underneath he ran man and 2 and 3 deep zones. He ran robber/hybrid schemes.

He rolled coverage when he zone blitzed and he blitzed and ran twists with S, CB, ILB, and OLB from all over the formation. He ran stunts with end tackle and tackle tackle looks.

About the only thing he didn't do was have people switch assignments on the fly to disguise but that was about Hitchens and Church having mediocre range and not able to handle what Lee and Jones were able to do.

I was as frustrated with Hayden as anyone but given the number of DE and 3T drafted it's obvious where his priorities lie.
 

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We truly have some of the biggest idiots on the Earth here. Let me get this straight: Marinelli is deliberately keeping the talent level of the defense down so he looks better by fielding a worse defense?

Yeah, the reason the Cowboys don't have the Doomsday 3.0 defense is because Marinelli thinks he can have more job security by being less successful. Brilliant logic there. :rolleyes:

The problem isn't Marinelli, the problem is that some posters here need to have their skulls x-rayed.

Jack Crawford started when 98, 92, and 94 were out. He was hardly his first choice.

He ran 2, 3, and 4 man fronts. He ran heavy, base, nickel, and dime. He brought in extra corners, used S as nickel LB and dropped DL into coverage. He ran cover 1, 2, 3, and quarters. Underneath he ran man and 2 and 3 deep zones. He ran robber/hybrid schemes.

He rolled coverage when he zone blitzed and he blitzed and ran twists with S, CB, ILB, and OLB from all over the formation. He ran stunts with end tackle and tackle tackle looks.

About the only thing he didn't do was have people switch assignments on the fly to disguise but that was about Hitchens and Church having mediocre range and not able to handle what Lee and Jones were able to do.

I was as frustrated with Hayden as anyone but given the number of DE and 3T drafted it's obvious where his priorities lie.

Bu-bu-but VANILLA! :rolleyes:
 

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Rod needs more respect. They haven't used premium picks on front 7 players, and when they do they're either injury prone or like weed. Pretty sure Will McClay doesn't even let him in the war room until Day 3.

Dallas Cowboys War Room 2016:

Rod: "Guys, pass rush should be our number one priority. I'd really like if we targeted a rushman with our first rou-"

McClay: "Christ, just stop right there old man. Come back when the 6th round rolls around and we might listen."

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Seriously????

Just a refresher...

Detroit Lions
On January 18, 2006, Marinelli was named the head coach of the Detroit Lions, replacing Dick Jauron. Marinelli was the fourth coach hired by Lions CEO Matt Millen, preceded by Marty Mornhinweg, Steve Mariucci and Dick Jauron.

The Marinelli era began poorly, as the Lions lost the first five games of the 2006 season before beating the Buffalo Bills 20–17. The Lions lost seven games in a row between weeks 10 and 16 before ending the year on a high note by beating the Dallas Cowboys 39–31.

The 2007 season started off well for the Lions as they started 6–2. However, the Lions lost seven out of their last eight games, and finished the 2007 season 3rd in the NFC North with a 7–9 record.

Despite a perfect 4–0 preseason, Marinelli coached the 2008 Lions to a winless 0–16 campaign, the worst and only winless season for any NFL team since the 16-game regular season was instituted in 1978 (The last team to lose all of their games was the 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who went 0–14; the last team to not win a game was the 1982 Baltimore Colts, who were 0–8–1 in a strike-shortened campaign.)

On December 26, 2008, Marinelli was fired, in addition to the majority of his coaching staff.[1] His record during the 3 seasons with the Lions was 10–38, one of the worst in NFL history for a head coach with at least three years' experience. Among coaches with at least 10 career wins, only Bert Bell has a worse record (10–46–2); Steve Spagnuolo posted the same 10–38 mark as Marinelli.


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This is how bad of a coach he is. And now we are completely turning over the defense to him this year...bringing his former scrubs like Paea in that have washed out through the league.

Why we keep entrusting more power to this guy is beyond stupid. :rolleyes:

Only in Dallas...could we employ a guy that went winless in a season...and think he's the right guy for the job. :thumbup:

What does Rod time as a HC have to do with anything as a DC? Wade Phillips is a very good DC not so much as a HC
 

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We ranked 5th in points allowed last year 19.1 ppg

id say that's pretty damn good

And Somehow that horrendous pass rush we supposedly have had 36 sacks last season, good for 13th in the league and more than the NYG who went out and spent a billion FA dollars to buy their pass rush last year

The defense lacks talent and impact players for sure, but marinelli does a hell of a job getting these guys to play collectively and fly to the ball every sunday

Except when it counts. His defense notoriously folds like a cheap suit.

We have 2 divisional round loses in the last 3 years to the same team, because of his high school scheme.
 
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