Hit on Zeke on final play

TheCount · Oct 31, 2016

viman96 said:
Definitely illegal per the rules. I assume they missed it or did not care because either way the game was over.

If it's a personal foul, isn't there a fine?

mattjames2010 · Oct 31, 2016

bkight13 said:
You could argue Dak left the pocket

6:12 - Dak did not leave the pocket, he was still within the pocket and if anything, he stepped up at a chance to scramble, but he was still within the pocket when the shove happened.

SlammedZero · Oct 31, 2016

I wondered this as well. I'm no NFL rules expert but it definitely didn't seem right at the time. Not to mention if the shoe was on the other foot I bet Dallas gets flagged there. Lol

pugilist · Oct 31, 2016

the holding call on TFred when Zeke busted a huge run was worse

absolute horse crap call

drawandstrike · Oct 31, 2016

No, you can't pop a receiver square in the back and knock him down when the QB is still in the pocket and the ball has not been thrown yet. That hit was a picture perfect example of illegal contact.

ringmaster · Oct 31, 2016

AdamJT13 said:
It should have been a penalty.

ARTICLE 2. ILLEGAL CONTACT WITHIN FIVE YARDS. Within the five-yard zone, if the player who receives the snap remains in the pocket with the ball, a defender may not make original contact in the back of a receiver, nor may he maintain contact after the receiver has moved beyond a point that is even with the defender.

Maybe Baldinger's comments about hurting Zeke did rub off on that game winning drive.

drawandstrike · Oct 31, 2016

ringmaster said:
Maybe Baldinger's comments about hurting Zeke did rub off on that game winning drive.

I hadn't even considered that. Now I'm mad. I hope somebody with the Cowboys sends a tape of that to the NFL front office and demands a fine on that defender.

ringmaster · Oct 31, 2016

drawandstrike said:
I hadn't even considered that. Now I'm mad. I hope somebody with the Cowboys sends a tape of that to the NFL front office and demands a fine on that defender.

Yes that was an illegal hit and in my mind I'm like where's the flag no defender cannot hit an WR running a route before the ball leaves the QB's hand and it was flag happy Jerome Boger's crew who was seeing every other infraction like that bogus holding call on Yosimite that wiped out a huge 63 yd Elliott run but yet Elliott gets hit in the back in the midst of the play and every ref was blind all of the sudden I'm happy they beat the Beagles.

romothesavior · Oct 31, 2016

AdamJT13 said:
It should have been a penalty.

ARTICLE 2. ILLEGAL CONTACT WITHIN FIVE YARDS. Within the five-yard zone, if the player who receives the snap remains in the pocket with the ball, a defender may not make original contact in the back of a receiver, nor may he maintain contact after the receiver has moved beyond a point that is even with the defender.

Good to know, thanks for the clarification!

romothesavior · Oct 31, 2016

Sydla said:
How is it illegal?

Pretty simple. The NFL rule book says it's illegal. That's how it's illegal.

That was a legitimate question. I wasn't being rude to @Irvin88_4life, I was legitimately asking to be directed to the rule that prohibits it, because I wasn't aware it was illegal contact (and even admitted as much).

CalPolyTechnique · Oct 31, 2016

romothesavior said:
That was a legitimate question. I wasn't being rude to @Irvin88_4life, I was legitimately asking to be directed to the rule that prohibits it, because I wasn't aware it was illegal contact (and even admitted as much).

There's no sincere inquiries on a message board!

Sydla · Oct 31, 2016

pugilist said:
the holding call on TFred when Zeke busted a huge run was worse

absolute horse crap call

That's going to get called every time. I know watching that live, I knew the flag was coming.

Sydla · Oct 31, 2016

romothesavior said:
That was a legitimate question. I wasn't being rude to @Irvin88_4life, I was legitimately asking to be directed to the rule that prohibits it, because I wasn't aware it was illegal contact (and even admitted as much).

My bad!

CalPolyTechnique · Oct 31, 2016

Sydla said:
That's going to get called every time. I know watching that live, I knew the flag was coming.

Yep. Had him across the numbers holding his shoulder and the play when right past him which in a ref's mind potentially impacts the play. We aren't talking about a WR on the other side of the field, 50-yards from the play.

Manster74 · Nov 1, 2016

Wow, I just watched the video. I never noticed it live or on all of the other replays. That was terrible.

ConstantReboot · Nov 1, 2016

This game has bad refs all over it. There were bad calls on both sides. That long run by Zeke should have not been called at all. This entire team of refs should have been fired after this game.

Bullflop · Nov 1, 2016

Virginia-Dave said:
Did you guys see what happened to Zeke on the final play of the game? He's out to the left, clearly as a receiver, and #53 from Philly comes over and nails him right in the back sending Zeke face first into the turf just past the line of scrimmage. Is that a legal play? It can't be right? But it was literally right in front of one of the refs and he did nothing, so maybe I'm missing something. It looked dirty to me. Thoughts?

Link, video of final play (Somebody smarter than me feel free to embed video)

If that wasn't unnecessary roughness, I don't know what is -- a pass wasn't even coming his way when Zeke got hit. The ref must have left his thinking cap at home. Seems like Philly gets away with more than their share of that crap -- maybe it's 'cause they do it so often. Anyhow, that was a pretty inconsistent crew to begin with.

Proof · Nov 1, 2016

That's a flag happy crew for sure. Seemed fairly even though, and any disparity in penalties called was mostly because our guys were playing an idiotic game through the first 3 quarters.

That's one of the reasons I'm honestly shocked that philly fans (well shocked is the wrong word since I find most of them to be idiots) could honestly believe they "gave us the game".

We dominated them offensively (by numbers) and continually extended their stalled drives, gifting them first downs and short fields.

They got their ***** kicked

DogFace · Nov 1, 2016

Sydla said:
That's going to get called every time. I know watching that live, I knew the flag was coming.

Anyone have a video of this play and I will make the final determonation.

DandyDon52 · Nov 1, 2016

mattjames2010 said:
6:12 - Dak did not leave the pocket, he was still within the pocket and if anything, he stepped up at a chance to scramble, but he was still within the pocket when the shove happened.

thanks for the youtube version !
It was a cheap shot and maybe against the rules, not sure, but a cheap shot at least.
not good for player safety.

Elliot needs to watch out next time they play these guys, and some payback on 53 ?? would be good.

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