Hit'em where it hurts, Jerry. Go after the NFL Draft

KB1122

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When Andrew Luck was coming into the league, I thought the Cowboys should just ignore the draft and sign him to a contract. Then let the NFL go to court and tell a judge why a monopolistic business can tell a young man the only place that he can work.

This might be a good time to test the theory. It would be an excellent way to stand in the middle of the bank holding the grenade. As the most wealthy and popular team, it would be good for the Cowboys. Why should Carolina get equal access to players when we're dragging them along?
 

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perrykemp

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This might be a good time to test the theory. It would be an excellent way to stand in the middle of the bank holding the grenade. As the most wealthy and popular team, it would be good for the Cowboys. Why should Carolina get equal access to players when we're dragging them along?

The Cowboys might be the most valuable franchise in the NFL, however, in your hypothetical scenario that are MUCH richer owners in the NFL than Jerry Jones who could easily outbid the Cowboys in a bizarro world with no draft and no salary cap.
 

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When Andrew Luck was coming into the league, I thought the Cowboys should just ignore the draft and sign him to a contract. Then let the NFL go to court and tell a judge why a monopolistic business can tell a young man the only place that he can work.

This might be a good time to test the theory.

It's already been tested. The NFL was found to be a "natural" monopoly, in that it isn't preventing the formation of other leagues or forcing them to sell themselves to the NFL. Other have formed, and failed. It's a huge financial risk most people with the means aren't willing to take. As for the draft, NFL franchises agree to a set of rules when they join the league. Player rights are collectively bargained as well. Why? Well, for one thing, to legally prevent what you're suggesting. It's also why Zeke can't just ignore the suspension and play anyway, as was proposed here a few weeks ago.
 

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The Cowboys might be the most valuable franchise in the NFL, however, in your hypothetical scenario that are MUCH richer owners in the NFL than Jerry Jones who could easily outbid the Cowboys in a bizarro world with no draft and no salary cap.
None of them are in the same stratosphere as far as profit though.
 

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When Andrew Luck was coming into the league, I thought the Cowboys should just ignore the draft and sign him to a contract. Then let the NFL go to court and tell a judge why a monopolistic business can tell a young man the only place that he can work.

This might be a good time to test the theory. It would be an excellent way to stand in the middle of the bank holding the grenade. As the most wealthy and popular team, it would be good for the Cowboys. Why should Carolina get equal access to players when we're dragging them along?

Do you know why the Elliott suspension was upheld? It’s not because a judge thought he did it, it was because Goodell’s power to discipline, was collectively bargained for. And this would more or less be the same. The draft is collectively bargained for, as is the salary cap, so you can try and violate either, but it’s far more likely that the players agent would ignore your calls.
 

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When Andrew Luck was coming into the league, I thought the Cowboys should just ignore the draft and sign him to a contract. Then let the NFL go to court and tell a judge why a monopolistic business can tell a young man the only place that he can work.

Players declare for the draft and therefore to work for the NFL.
This is a free decission. Nobody forces them into it nor work for the NFL. They are able to play (work) elsewhere (CFL etc...).

Its like that with every employer: An employment agreement carries certain rules with it.
 

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None of them are in the same stratosphere as far as profit though.

Wouldn't matter in a bit in a uncapped NFL.

Paul Allen is worth $18 billion dollars. Jerry is worth around $5 billion. The $100-200m more profit a year that the Cowboys make than other teams just wouldn't mean squat compared to the fact that other NFL owners's net worth is much higher in Jerry's.

Salary cap is a good thing.
 
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It's already been tested. The NFL was found to be a "natural" monopoly, in that it isn't preventing the formation of other leagues or forcing them to sell themselves to the NFL. Other have formed, and failed. It's a huge financial risk most people with the means aren't willing to take. As for the draft, NFL franchises agree to a set of rules when they join the league. Player rights are collectively bargained as well. Why? Well, for one thing, to legally prevent what you're suggesting. It's also why Zeke can't just ignore the suspension and play anyway, as was proposed here a few weeks ago.
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Do you know why the Elliott suspension was upheld? It’s not because a judge thought he did it, it was because Goodell’s power to discipline, was collectively bargained for. And this would more or less be the same. The draft is collectively bargained for, as is the salary cap, so you can try and violate either, but it’s far more likely that the players agent would ignore your calls.
Yep
Fantasy that will never happen
On top of that Jerry was instrumental in getting the cap
You own a team you are subject to the rules of the league
 

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To be honest, Jerry made his bed, when he sided or at least publicly supported Goodell suspending Brady. Considering altering the PSI of footballs was in the rule book, and had a specific penalty, Goodell over reached when he suspended Brady, since that was not what the rules stated. That was the time to speak out, now everything just seems like he’s upset that it effects him.
 

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I do hopring this upcoming Draft, that Cowboys fans organize a better form of booing that turd. Maybe some chanting of "liar" or "fire goodell," "free zeke," or good ol' "corrupt."
I like liar. Not only because he lied to Jerry about Zeke's suspension, but also in Spygate, Bountygate and Rice.
 

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When Andrew Luck was coming into the league, I thought the Cowboys should just ignore the draft and sign him to a contract. Then let the NFL go to court and tell a judge why a monopolistic business can tell a young man the only place that he can work.

This might be a good time to test the theory. It would be an excellent way to stand in the middle of the bank holding the grenade. As the most wealthy and popular team, it would be good for the Cowboys. Why should Carolina get equal access to players when we're dragging them along?
Interesting idea. The biggest problem that it might face is how it fits into, or challenges, the existing Federal Laws passed in Washington DC that impact both the operations and tax status of the NFL. Jerry would need some very sharp lawyers to ensure that his actions don't have unintended legal and financial consequences.
 

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None of them are in the same stratosphere as far as profit though.
I suspect that a number of NFL owners have greater annual profit (revenues minus expenses) than Jerry has. The reason for that is simple, they have other businesses in addition to the NFL team they own. In large part, Jerry has put all his eggs in one basket ... ownership of the Cowboys.
 
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