Honest board question...Trade up to #2?

[CCBoy]

would you be willing to do a Tony Dorsett type of a trade, to move up to the #2 draft slot and acquire WR Calvin Johnson? Say, give up this year's first and second round as well as next year's first and second rounders....?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

 

[zrinkill]

No .... to many risks involved with putting all your eggs in one basket .....


See Joey Gallloway and Ricky Williams ....

 

[carphalen5150]

would you be willing to do a Tony Dorsett type of a trade, to move up to the #2 draft slot and acquire WR Calvin Johnson? Say, give up this year's first and second round as well as next year's first and second rounders....?

No.

Johnson seems like a sure thing, but I cannot see giving up 4 players (possibly more if we trade down) for him, or anyone else for that matter.

 

[CCBoy]

Dallas traded a first and three seconds for Tony Dorsett, and if memory serves me correct, that individual made it into the Hall of Fame...with Dallas...

 

[DallasEast]

would you be willing to do a Tony Dorsett type of a trade, to move up to the #2 draft slot and acquire WR Calvin Johnson? Say, give up this year's first and second round as well as next year's first and second rounders....?

Without a doubt, Johnson is the best wide receiver in this draft--if not the best athlete also. Still, why would any team sacrifice its upper round picks for two consecutive years when three other prime receivers (Bowe, Meacham, Ginn) will still be available in the first round this year? Our draft strategy should not be overly sacrifice in order to secure the best prospect available. It should be to patiently and wisely draft the best player available who is projected within that round. Picks are precious commodities and their investments are long-lasting. Don't simply squander them on one player.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Dallas traded a first and three seconds for Tony Dorsett, and if memory serves me correct, that individual made it into the Hall of Fame...with Dallas...

 

[InDakWeTrust]

But you must realize that at least who doesnt think that CJ wont be the next Moss/TO without any baggage whatsoever?

IMO he will be a HOF'er, I know, thats going out on a limb but how can an offense say no to that?

And who is to say the Lions would be so willing to trade down? The Browns more than likely wont want to either and CJ probably isnt going past the Bucs at #4.

 

[CCBoy]

as far as I know, and when observing gun powder and analyzing and proclaiming it's potential...I bet it rarely was projected as leading to further developments that propelled man to the moon, either...with much greater explosive potential....you never know, if you approach from a purely fear basis, and don't analyze all of the current influences and whether the final product would become workable....

Some of the accumulated value, could be additionally diminished by adding a player or two, such as Greg Ellis and a TO to the equation, and moving on in the present...just, a little additional resoning included...

BrainPaint, my wife was viewing this thread with me, and she was impressed by the 'big eye'....LOL!

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

as far as I know, and when observing gun powder and analyzing and proclaiming it's potential...I bet it rarely was projected as leading to further developments that propelled man to the moon, either...with much greater explosive potential....you never know, if you approach from a purely fear basis, and don't analyze all of the current influences and whether the final product would become workable....

Some of the accumulated value, could be additionally diminished by adding a player or two, such as Greg Ellis and a TO to the equation, and moving on in the present...just, a little additional resoning included...

BrainPaint, my wife was viewing this thread with me, and she was impressed by the 'big eye'....LOL!

Did not get much sleep so forgive me if I miss the 'big eye' reference.

However this is not the days before there was a cap.

This is not the days before there was the CBA.

Also just because someone would offer a trade it does take two to tango.

I get so wore out with these crazy draft scenario trade the moon threads.

I honestly don't know sometimes if it is just a young kid suggesting them. A casual fan that really does not know anything about how the NFL really works or just someone that just likes to post things for reactions.

In an age where the FA prices are going up and up and teams are keeping many of the top FAs...it would be foolish to trade away two first round picks and two second round picks in consecutive years.

 

[adamknite]

would you be willing to do a Tony Dorsett type of a trade, to move up to the #2 draft slot and acquire WR Calvin Johnson? Say, give up this year's first and second round as well as next year's first and second rounders....?

For the love of......NO! no no no no no no no NO!

Sorry, but there's only so many lets trade up to #2 threads I can handle in a week. two 1st and 2 2nds that's when you have holes and depth to fill at more than one position you can't trade 4 potential players for one! Espcially not WR where there is a long history of first round busts.

 

[superpunk]

the cat has big eyes...

 

[DCBoysfan]

:laugh2:

 

[WoodysGirl]

I'm stealing this.

 

[mmillman]

yes, yes, oh yes. All of those picks will be late round. Most of the time those late round picks don't pan out. Johnson is the best player in the draft at a position Dallas needs.

 

[Danny White]

I think Detroit would laugh at that offer.

And that's something, considering it's Detroit!

 

[ZeroClub]

I have it in me to support the "boom or bust" bold move.

I know I'm in the minority, but I didn't (and still don't) have a problem with Mike Ditka's move for Ricky Williams.

Williams was a great player. He just had some personal issues that held him back from being all that he could be.

If Jerry believes he has identified (with certainty) a high impact, sure-fire, first ballot Hall of Famer in this draft class, frankly, I'd think about trading away this year's entire draft for the rights to that player.

(It isn't going to happen, though).

 

[CCBoy]

just throwing out all implied developmental logic, and blatantly accepting an implied 'standard' of acceptable operational tolerance variation....

logically applying an analysis to the repetitive No's that are arising, one would reasonably imply that TO is a very good market value, as to his lower level of acquisition price, and then is in fact a better option, despite the long term aspects of a very top receiver...in the present. TO and the present companion Terry Glenn, then are a much stronger value in the present, and we should not feel deprived for NOT acquiring a top level receiver given present conditions....fair?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I'm stealing this.

Go for it and use it as you will.

 

[WoodysGirl]

just throwing out all implied developmental logic, and blatantly accepting an implied 'standard' of acceptable operational tolerance variation....

logically applying an analysis to the repetitive No's that are arising, one would reasonably imply that TO is a very good market value, as to his lower level of acquisition price, and then is in fact a better option, despite the long term aspects of a very top receiver...in the present. TO and the present companion Terry Glenn, then are a much stronger value in the present, and we should not feel deprived for NOT acquiring a top level receiver given present conditions....fair?

That's not what is being said. A top WR can still be obtained without sacrificing two drafts to get him. And these kind of trade scenarios are the exact kind of trades that we would expect from Jerry post-Jimmy, pre-Bill...and it cost the organization several years of recovery.

Go for it and use it as you will.

Will do.