Honestly, defense alone should win this game

[JoeKing]

The offence will still have to put up points, it'll just be hard without Dez. I hope the dline smashes Eli and the running backs, but I just think he'll do nothing but quick passes. If our lbs and safetys tackle properly, then yeah, we'll be in good shape

Not necessarily, the defense could get some points to win the game.

 

[dallasdave]

Tackling and lack of any turnovers.

 

[Satchel89]

The defense definitely does have some talent we haven't seen in awhile on this team. I just hope this is the game where they finally get some turnovers. Eli will throw that ball up for grabs sometimes and maybe one of the d-backs actually holds onto the ball tomorrow. I think the offense will be better but how much I don't know. We are all excited about Michael but I wonder if we're putting too much faith in him. Why did Seattle trade him and do the coaches trust him enough? Well they are trusting him this week. It would be so nice to see him end up with 20 to 25 carries and over a hundred yards. Wouldn't that be nice to have a workhorse back again? I'm so done with the running back by committee. But the defense can for sure come up big tomorrow. I wanna see Eli on the sidelines with the sad and mopey face

 

[KJJ]

Since Eli has been the Giants QB they've given the Cowboys some very tough games regardless how they're playing. The Giants were coming off a 5 game losing streak including a blowout loss to Seattle and a loss to a bad SF team when the Cowboys faced them in week 12 last season and that turned into a dogfight. They gave the Cowboys such a battle they had nothing left 4 days later on Thanksgiving resulting in a blowout loss to Philly. If anyone thinks just because the Giants stunk against Philly last week it's going to be easy pickins with Cassel who's only been with the team 5 weeks you're kidding yourselves.

The Cowboys are in a 3 game tailspin trying to save their season with a journeyman QB at the helm and some are acting like they're going to just waltz into NY and pound the Giants. The Cowboys haven't pounded anyone all season. They're coming off a pounding the hell with a shutout and I'm just hoping we come away with a win or this season is going to end up in the toilet pretty soon.

 

[DandyDon52]

Since Eli has been the Giants QB they've given the Cowboys some very tough games regardless how they're playing. The Giants were coming off a 5 game losing streak including a blowout loss to Seattle and a loss to a bad SF team when the Cowboys faced them in week 12 last season and that turned into a dogfight. They gave the Cowboys such a battle they had nothing left 4 days later on Thanksgiving resulting in a blowout loss to Philly. If anyone thinks just because the Giants stunk against Philly last week it's going to be easy pickins with Cassel who's only been with the team 5 weeks you're kidding yourselves.

The Cowboys are in a 3 game tailspin trying to save their season with a journeyman QB at the helm and some are acting like they're going to just waltz into NY and pound the Giants. The Cowboys haven't pounded anyone all season. They're coming off a pounding the hell with a shutout and I'm just hoping we come away with a win or this season is going to end up in the toilet pretty soon.

yeah giants and Commanders always get up for the cowboy games.
They are always battles, so should be a close game.
the one x factor is NY isnt used to a guy like hardy playing for dallas, so that should giive dallas a edge.
But what if they dbl hardy>?

Many things factor into this game , will be fun to watch and rewatch.

 

[KJJ]

yeah giants and Commanders always get up for the cowboy games.
They are always battles, so should be a close game.
the one x factor is NY isnt used to a guy like hardy playing for dallas, so that should giive dallas a edge.
But what if they dbl hardy>?

Many things factor into this game , will be fun to watch and rewatch.

The Giants had to deal with Ware for years and Eli has faced a lot of great pass rushers. If they dbl Hardy that should open up opportunities for Gregory and DLaw. To have success against Eli you need pressure coming from different angles. Hardy having to be accounted for should allow others to get to get some pressure on Eli

 

[TwoDeep3]

All of y'all are worrying for NO reason about the Dez playing, not playing story. First, the defense should be the best we've had in a very,very,very long time and beat the midgets pretty much by themselves. We should win like Seattle has beat teams the last few years, Defense, defense, defense!!! If we can't beat this sorry Giants team without Dez, we are pretty bad anyways!! Did y'all watch the Giants-Eagles game last week? They are horrible. We've had two weeks off, and they are on a short week. Their OL is beat up, OBJ is limping, and Eli, well, he's Eli. This is where Red either proves he's a coach, or he proves he'll never be one. Butttttt, my big gut feeling tells me we win this one with a good old-fashioned defensive beat down. The Kraken should have a huge day. Lee and RoMac should eat up their run game, and The DB's should get a couple pics from Eli. And finally, the best news of all. The worst QB in the NFL is out, and we should have a better all around offensive showing. This week we tell the rest of the NFL that in a few weeks, the Cowboys will be right smack dab in the middle of the playoff picture!!!

I think this is an extremely dismissive position, ignoring hat Dallas almost lost to the Giants, and the pass rush everyone seems to be reveling in also got their tails handed to them in the second half against the Pats.

There are too many question marks for this to be sop clearly defined as what appears to be an easy game, as illustrated in the OP's post.

 

[dallasdave]

I think this is an extremely dismissive position, ignoring hat Dallas almost lost to the Giants, and the pass rush everyone seems to be reveling in also got their tails handed to them in the second half against the Pats.

There are too many question marks for this to be sop clearly defined as what appears to be an easy game, as illustrated in the OP's post.

Dallas is going to beat the living crap out of the Giants !!!!

 

[Chuck 54]

Defense alone never wins games.

I'm hoping for 7 fgs and a 21-20 win.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Three step drop and get rid of the ball quickly will neutralize the rush. Will be up to the secondary to corral their play makers quickly when they get the ball in their hands.

If the defense stops the run and force incompletons on 1st and 2nd downs, there will be opportunities where Eli is forced to go to a 5 step drop on 3rd downs.

The D actually played a good game vs NY in Week 1. If not for Dallas turning the ball over deep in their own territory several times, NY doesn't crack 17 points.

To the OP...not going to say the D "should " win this game for Dallas but I will say that if Dallas wins, the D will have a bigger hand in it than the Dallas O.

 

[jzcowboy]

but you have to remember it took a dramatic come from behind win in the opener WITH ROMO for the entire game and Dez for most of the game for the Cowboys to beat the Giants at home. The Giants gave that game away and they'll be looking for some revenge and to bounce back after last weeks poor performance.

You must not remember the game, go back and watch it again.

On their own, the Giants only scored 6 offensive points during the first 58 minutes of play, 9 for the game. The 3 very freak turnovers directly, I'll say it again - directly, put 17 points on the board. Those turnovers aren't likely to happen again and were the only reason a comeback was needed. It had nothing to do with Tony and Dez being in the game.

Cowboys win 20-9

 

[Arkyvarminter]

The issue to me is that for the defense to dominate, the offense can't turn the ball over; however, into order to win the offense can't be as conservative as it was with Weed. They have to find that balance on offense where they can avoid repeatedly going 3 and out which wears down the defense but while not taking too many chances and turning the ball over.

It's hard to imagine the defense not having a good game considering that they seem to have all hands on deck now.

I've never seen a more conservative approach than with Weeden but then again, that is Garrett's style. Why they didn't take some shots, I don't know. The Giants are going to try to emulate what the Pats did. Hopefully Garrett has found a way to get Witten open. Dez, would help but he's not available. This game will come down to Cassel's play, plain and simple....

 

[tyke1doe]

I caution everyone thinking this is going to be a cakewalk. The Giants are a divisional opponent, and they generally play us tough.

 

[tyke1doe]

You must not remember the game, go back and watch it again.

On their own, the Giants only scored 6 offensive points during the first 58 minutes of play, 9 for the game. The 3 very freak turnovers directly, I'll say it again - directly, put 17 points on the board. Those turnovers aren't likely to happen again and were the only reason a comeback was needed. It had nothing to do with Tony and Dez being in the game.

Cowboys win 20-9

You think we win that game without Romo?

 

[coult44]

If Dallas loses this game on the road. Against a division rival playing just as desperate as Dallas is. Missing two of their best players. Maybe their two best players period.It won't mean Garrett isn't or never will never be a good coach. I sure Jerry and Stephen won't think that way. Most non partisan observers are picking the Giants to win the game. Based on most of the points I mentioned above.

This is a game Dallas is capable of winning. The defense,on paper, could be dominant. But the Gaints also know how to play the game. They could easily go to their short, quick passing game. Which could nullify any Dallas advantage over their weak o-line. And expose weaknesses in the Cowboy secondary. Carr especially.
And if this offense lead by Cassell isn't much better than what we saw under Weeden. NY could easily score enough to win. Williams, Beasley and either Street or Butler have to be a factor. Which can hopefully open up the running attack. It'd be nice if Escobar could be put to some good use as well.

You probably lost everyone here when you said that Romo and Dez were "maybe" our best two players. But, whatever, wowwww. Anyways, my point on Red was this. This team needs to come out ready to play. After a bye week, and catching NY on a short week, there are certain coaching and preparation factors that need to be seen tomorrow. This is a perfect game for JG to show everyone that he's not in "training" anymore. If teams like Pittsburgh can win with a 3rd team QB, or Carolina can go on the road to Seattle and win without one quality WR and a similar RB situation as ours , Garrett needs to have his team completely ready to win! There's a huge difference in a regular loss, and a loss that falls on a coach. All I'm saying is this is a very winnable game, and us missing Dez and Tony shouldn't be the scapegoat for us before we even play. This is as healthy as we've been since week one.

 

[gmoney112]

You think we win that game without Romo?

No. But then again, we didn't have Hardy or McClain, and our OL wasn't playing very well either. The whole team was pretty ugly, and our defense actually did play pretty well given the circumstances.

We also had some crazy turnovers.

Our defensive front 7 is a perfect match for the Giants right now. They're weak at running the ball and they don't pass protect very well. We can roll out 2 linebackers in Lee/McClain and a nickel package or the 3-2-6 package and probably still get pressure while defending the run reasonably well.

Given the Giant's weakness at pass protection, our weapons on the DL, and Lee's awareness and propensity forcing TO's against Sheli, I'd run a primarily zone nickel package this game, just because of the availability of pass rushers. Now that Gregory is back, we can have a lot of packages with 4 pass rushers on the line. There will be down and distance situations where a 3-2-6 is more appropriate, but if I can get an extra legitimate pass rusher on that line pressuring Eli i'd take it over a DB.

Get pressure with 4, with Lee's propensity forcing TO's on Eli, i'd have him in coverage in a shallow zone a lot. This is a game where I think as many eyes towards the ball as possible can yield some great results, especially with our front 4. If we man up, they're going to be running short/intermediate routes attempting to get our CB's to trail.

Not sure how often the Eagles played zone, but they got a ton of pressure. We can do the same. This is also a game where I'd probably start Byron in Church's position, just for the pass coverage. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a significant number of snaps in obvious passing situations

 

[jzcowboy]

You think we win that game without Romo?

No. Because of the very freak 3 turnovers that lead directly to 17 Giants points we needed him to do that. Not many can overcome a -3 turnover deficit. I don't expect to be -3 tomorrow, I more expect to be +2.

 

[jzcowboy]

No. But then again, we didn't have Hardy or McClain, and our OL wasn't playing very well either. The whole team was pretty ugly, and our defense actually did play pretty well given the circumstances.

We also had some crazy turnovers.

Our defensive front 7 is a perfect match for the Giants right now. They're weak at running the ball and they don't pass protect very well. We can roll out 2 linebackers in Lee/McClain and a nickel package or the 3-2-6 package and probably still get pressure while defending the run reasonably well.

Given the Giant's weakness at pass protection, our weapons on the DL, and Lee's awareness and propensity forcing TO's against Sheli, I'd run a primarily zone nickel package this game, just because of the availability of pass rushers. Now that Gregory is back, we can have a lot of packages with 4 pass rushers on the line. There will be down and distance situations where a 3-2-6 is more appropriate, but if I can get an extra legitimate pass rusher on that line pressuring Eli i'd take it over a DB.

Get pressure with 4, with Lee's propensity forcing TO's on Eli, i'd have him in coverage in a shallow zone a lot. This is a game where I think as many eyes towards the ball as possible can yield some great results, especially with our front 4. If we man up, they're going to be running short/intermediate routes attempting to get our CB's to trail.

Not sure how often the Eagles played zone, but they got a ton of pressure. We can do the same. This is also a game where I'd probably start Byron in Church's position, just for the pass coverage. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a significant number of snaps in obvious passing situations

Gmoney gets it. It's conversations like these that separate those who know about football and those who are fans only.

 

[dallasdave]

I've never seen a more conservative approach than with Weeden but then again, that is Garrett's style. Why they didn't take some shots, I don't know. The Giants are going to try to emulate what the Pats did. Hopefully Garrett has found a way to get Witten open. Dez, would help but he's not available. This game will come down to Cassel's play, plain and simple....

 

[KingLerxst]

You probably lost everyone here when you said that Romo and Dez were "maybe" our best two players. But, whatever, wowwww. Anyways, my point on Red was this. This team needs to come out ready to play. After a bye week, and catching NY on a short week, there are certain coaching and preparation factors that need to be seen tomorrow. This is a perfect game for JG to show everyone that he's not in "training" anymore. If teams like Pittsburgh can win with a 3rd team QB, or Carolina can go on the road to Seattle and win without one quality WR and a similar RB situation as ours , Garrett needs to have his team completely ready to win! There's a huge difference in a regular loss, and a loss that falls on a coach. All I'm saying is this is a very winnable game, and us missing Dez and Tony shouldn't be the scapegoat for us before we even play. This is as healthy as we've been since week one.

Maybe I lost you. But some would argue that Hardy could be one of our best two players. Since the position he plays is considered the second most important behind QB. He might finish the season being even more important than Dez. Time will tell. But,whatever.
And as I posted. I too think it's a very winnable game. But I realize not having Dez and Tony in there,two players you feel are the best on the team, makes it a very difficult task. Hell. Its difficult to win in the NFL. On the road,against a division rival. Even with all of your starters available.
It just sounds as though you are looking for a place to lay blame before the game is even played out. Especially since you're still considering Garrett as needing to show he's no longer "in training". Though he coached the team to a 12-4 season. Went on the road and beat the defending SB champion. And had a Murray fumble and bad call/rule be a big reason they didn't play in an NFC championship game.

Let's see how the game goes before we start deciding who might be to blame or congratulate for how it turns out. Hopefully,this time tomorrow,we're all singing the praises of Garrett,Linehan,Marinelli,Cassell,Hardy etc.........