How 'bout Trading Spencer for DT Donteri Poe from the Chiefs?

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03EBZ06;5015244 said:
smh at OP, where do these people come from?

These people are those who realize JJ sucks as a GM and that Spencer is a one year wonder who is way too small to play the strong side DE in the NFL, not college. The same people who watch NFL network and are aware that the Chiefs are not thrilled with Poe and want to draft a DT in the 1st round. The same fans who realize that eventually there is a steep price to pay for restructuring and that 8-8 is the worst possible record you can have over and over and over again.

And BTW, we are not America's team anymore. That is news to some.
 

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If you trade Spencer you have to have a DE to replace him with. Now if you say we've got one then I'm wondering who although Hatcher could play there and probably Crawford. But then you've still missing a man in the rotation and more of those snaps will be needed at DE rather than DT. So Poe doesn't exactly fix your DE problem although he adds a DT to the rotation.

You have to think about your starters but you really have to worry about your depth at each position.
 

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zeke87;5015326 said:
These people are those who realize JJ sucks as a GM and that Spencer is a one year wonder who is way too small to play the strong side DE in the NFL, not college. The same people who watch NFL network and are aware that the Chiefs are not thrilled with Poe and want to draft a DT in the 1st round. The same fans who realize that eventually there is a steep price to pay for restructuring and that 8-8 is the worst possible record you can have over and over and over again.

And BTW, we are not America's team anymore. That is news to some.

It's news to me.

Along with Spencer being a one-year-wonder and him being too small to play SDE. But then, I also thought trading a probowler for an apparent bust was a really, really bad idea.
 

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Idgit;5015430 said:
It's news to me.

Along with Spencer being a one-year-wonder and him being too small to play SDE. But then, I also thought trading a probowler for an apparent bust was a really, really bad idea.

:laugh2:

wait till the cowboys actually do it
you will be in here defending it
 

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visionary;5015442 said:
:laugh2:

wait till the cowboys actually do it
you will be in here defending it

Ok. We'll wait for that, then. You can save this quote and put in in your sig, too, for when that happens. I'll start doing my research on Dontari Poe.
 

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zeke87;5015326 said:
These people are those who realize JJ sucks as a GM and that Spencer is a one year wonder who is way too small to play the strong side DE in the NFL, not college. The same people who watch NFL network and are aware that the Chiefs are not thrilled with Poe and want to draft a DT in the 1st round. The same fans who realize that eventually there is a steep price to pay for restructuring and that 8-8 is the worst possible record you can have over and over and over again.

And BTW, we are not America's team anymore. That is news to some.
So Chiefs aren't thrilled with Poe so we should get him for a player who just had his best season of his career and selected for the PB? You want to get worse, gotcha...Glad you are't the GM :laugh2:

I couldn't careless about being America's team, all I want for this team is to win
 

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Let's see. Maybe this is why a Spencer for Poe trade is not a good idea. Poe didn't exactly live up to the #11 draft spot and was and still is a risky project. Spencer proved he can be a very effective player in the NFL. Then you add in that the team already has Ratliff, Hatcher, Spears, Lissemore, Price, Bass, and a few others that can play DT while if you get rid of Spencer, you only have Ware and Crawford as DEs. DT doesn't need fixing as bad as several other spots and if you make that trade, you need to find 2 or 3 DEs. I think they should just sit tight on DL and look for a veteran bargain and/or a guy that slips to them unexpectedly in the draft. Short of that, Safety, RB, and OL need the most resources.
 

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Change the title to "How 'bout trading Spencer for LT Branden Albert from the Chiefs?" and maybe you got something.
 

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zeke87;5015176 said:
for DT Donteri Poe from the Chiefs? Sounds crazy but it gives us a possible starter next to Ratliff and allows Hatcher to play SDE opposite Ware. Poe's cap hit would only be 900k for us but about 2.5 dead money for the Chiefs who want to go DT with their 1st pick and play the 3-4.

I want to get something for Spencer instead of keeping him and overpaying him to be an undersized SDE.

I think Spencer isn't getting the respect he deserves after this past season. He's not really undersized in this scheme and he's proven to be a good run-stopper throughout his career at his size, while showing he can also rush the passer last year. (I was down on him some the previous year because I didn't think he had the pass-rush ability we needed.)

Now although he was a college DE, no one can really say how Spencer will handle the move to NFL DE. That's one reason I actually like the tag, because Dallas can see if he's worth a multiyear deal at the position.

Likewise, no one can really say how Hatcher would handle the move to 4-3 DE, since he also hasn't played it since college. The difference is Hatcher has come on as a player in a similar position to what he played in the 3-4. He can use his quickness inside against slower-footed guards rather than possibly being neutralized by quicker-footed offensive tackles.

On top of that, we don't know what Poe can do or even if he'll develop, while we've got four starters on our line now who have shown they can play at a high level (when healthy). I'd rather see how their abilities translate to this scheme than pick up a player who hasn't shown he can play at a high level.
 

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zeke87;5015326 said:
These people are those who realize JJ sucks as a GM and that Spencer is a one year wonder who is way too small to play the strong side DE in the NFL, not college. The same people who watch NFL network and are aware that the Chiefs are not thrilled with Poe and want to draft a DT in the 1st round. The same fans who realize that eventually there is a steep price to pay for restructuring and that 8-8 is the worst possible record you can have over and over and over again.

And BTW, we are not America's team anymore. That is news to some.

And attempting a Madden trade for Dontari Poe will fix that?

Also, last year the Chicago Bears (Marinelli's former team) drafted Shea McClellin to play defensive end. McClellin is 6'3 260lbs. Spencer is 6'3 250lbs. Not much of a drop off in size for what Marinelli likes to do.

The fact of the matter is Spencer is a Cowboy. Trading him won't happen and trading him for a second year player like Poe definitely won't happen. I don't care if a team isn't pleased with a player; if that player was the 11th pick of the draft a year ago, he won't be traded.
 

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zeke87;5015176 said:
for DT Donteri Poe from the Chiefs? Sounds crazy but it gives us a possible starter next to Ratliff and allows Hatcher to play SDE opposite Ware. Poe's cap hit would only be 900k for us but about 2.5 dead money for the Chiefs who want to go DT with their 1st pick and play the 3-4.

I want to get something for Spencer instead of keeping him and overpaying him to be an undersized SDE.
Uuum... NO!
 
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