How can you cut a guy who needs surgery?

[Badattitude]

Rogers needs surgery - right? How can he be released? am I hearing this right? - - If not , sorry.

 

[BEASToftheEAST]

isnt that what surgery is?

 

[Doomsday101]

Rogers needs surgery - right? How can he be released? am I hearing this right? - - If not , sorry.

Injury settlement will be in order Cundiff was injured and released and Dallas will come to a settlement with him as well.

 

[jksmith269]

they reach a injury settlement before release the player

 

[Badattitude]

Wow - that's a tough rule - in all other sports you cannnot release an injured player - or reach an injury settlement until they miss a full year- I would have thought Rogers' contract wouyld have at least guaranteed him this season's full salary.

Rogers = Shane Hannah

 

[parchy]

I would have thought Rogers' contract wouyld have at least guaranteed him this season's full salary.

No guaranteed contracts in the NFL

 

[KDWilliams85]

No guaranteed contracts in the NFL

Quite the contrary, my friend. The "Franchise" tag is guaranteed contract due to it being guaranteed money. The signing bonus is a guaranteed contract as well under the same clause. Especially if the bonus is huge.

No contract in any sport is guaranteed. There is guaranteed money in the NBA and the NFL. I don't know about NHL or other professional sports.

 

[AbeBeta]

No contract in any sport is guaranteed.

Actually football is the only of the big 4 sports where the deals aren't guaranteed.

 

[Big Country]

it's a cruel world in professional sports...

 

[parchy]

Quite the contrary, my friend. The "Franchise" tag is guaranteed contract due to it being guaranteed money. The signing bonus is a guaranteed contract as well under the same clause. Especially if the bonus is huge.

No contract in any sport is guaranteed. There is guaranteed money in the NBA and the NFL. I don't know about NHL or other professional sports.

I didn't say there was no guaranteed money, but every major sport except the NFL has guaranteed contracts...

 

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by Badattitude
I would have thought Rogers' contract wouyld have at least guaranteed him this season's full salary.

It does now. He will either get a full season's salary as an injury settlement or get the full year by going on IR. This is one area where NFL deals are protected for injury. Generally, an injury settlement is based on the weeks the player is expected to be out. Cundiff for example is going to get 2 or 3 weeks of pay on the 2005 deal. An injury settlement with JR means we can get rid of him. Otherwise he goes on IR and we pay the same money but keep his rights.

He wouldn't get anything if he was cut when he was healthy.

 

[montgod]

Yes, I would think that Rogers' signing bonus, whatever it is, will be going against the cap next year. I would have to also agree that it might have been smarter to just put him on IR and try to either dump him off on another team (highly unlikely, I guess... with his non-performances the last two years) or just see how he does in camp next year. You still would for the most part have the same cap hit and he wouldn't count against your roster being on IR.

However, as others have stated, Bill has a short memory and it's all about what have you done for me lately and not what you can do for the most part. So Rogers would have had this sissy type label on him next year also if any type of injury popped up. I guess it makes sense then since he probably would have never gotten another fair shake to show what he could do because Bill would have thought negatively about him regardless.

Can the Boys now just go and sign Graggs please? I really want JJones to have a great year as well as the passing game and currently our OL is a project.

 

[jksmith269]

I didn't say there was no guaranteed money, but every major sport except the NFL has guaranteed contracts...

Its not that the NFL doesn't have the option to offer a fully guarnteed contract they just don't but if you look at this years first round picks majority of their contracts are guarnteed. Ware signed a 13 mil contract and was reported like 10million was guarnteed. So there is guarnteed money in the NFL just they don't guarntee the full length of the contract...

 

[AsthmaField]

Quite the contrary, my friend. The "Franchise" tag is guaranteed contract due to it being guaranteed money. The signing bonus is a guaranteed contract as well under the same clause. Especially if the bonus is huge.

No contract in any sport is guaranteed. There is guaranteed money in the NBA and the NFL. I don't know about NHL or other professional sports.

:laugh2:

 

[parchy]

Its not that the NFL doesn't have the option to offer a fully guarnteed contract they just don't but if you look at this years first round picks majority of their contracts are guarnteed. Ware signed a 13 mil contract and was reported like 10million was guarnteed. So there is guarnteed money in the NFL just they don't guarntee the full length of the contract...

The signing bonus is the only guaranteed part though... that's not what I'm talking about. Say A-Rod signs a 7 year deal with the Yankees... unless he's traded or violates one of the clauses of his contract, the Spankees can't do anything with him... they have no choice but to keep him or trade him. NFL teams can sign a player to a 7 year deal and cut him after 1 year for no reason if they like. Yes, they'll take a cap hit, but the point is that they CAN release that player if they like. That was my point.

 

[Mike 1967]

I heard a report that the Dallas doctors did not believe that Rogers needed surgery. It was Rogers who took it upon himself to have the surgery.

Which would be consistent with his reputation as a Puddy Tat.

Surgery keeps him on the sideline...just like last year.

If it meows like a cat...........

 

[jksmith269]

The signing bonus is the only guaranteed part though... that's not what I'm talking about. Say A-Rod signs a 7 year deal with the Yankees... unless he's traded or violates one of the clauses of his contract, the Spankees can't do anything with him... they have no choice but to keep him or trade him. NFL teams can sign a player to a 7 year deal and cut him after 1 year for no reason if they like. Yes, they'll take a cap hit, but the point is that they CAN release that player if they like. That was my point.

No ware's contract guarntees him around 10million the Signing bonus can't be more than I think a third of the whole contract; which is 13.5 give or take so his SB could only be around 4-5 million the rest is guarnteed roster bonuses and such but not SB.

The numbers aren't exact it could be half the total contract but a SB has a limit.

which BTW was put in place after we signed Deion Sanders and is sometimes refered to the Deion Rule....

 

[jazzcat22]

Wow - that's a tough rule - in all other sports you cannnot release an injured player - or reach an injury settlement until they miss a full year- I would have thought Rogers' contract wouyld have at least guaranteed him this season's full salary.

Rogers = Shane Hannah

I think after they are released and they clear waivers, they go back on the IR in some cases. Need an attorney to sort all that out now. I think the salary cap is more easy to understand. :laugh2:

 

[guag]

isnt that what surgery is?

Am I the only one who caught this? :laugh2:

 

[parchy]

No ware's contract guarntees him around 10million the Signing bonus can't be more than I think a third of the whole contract; which is 13.5 give or take so his SB could only be around 4-5 million the rest is guarnteed roster bonuses and such but not SB.

The numbers aren't exact it could be half the total contract but a SB has a limit.

which BTW was put in place after we signed Deion Sanders and is sometimes refered to the Deion Rule....

You're still completely missing my point... it had nothing to do with money