How did a top LB core, go from hero to zero?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Praxit, Oct 27, 2020.

  1. SeanLee50

    SeanLee50 Well-Known Member

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    Prime example is Kansas City.

    they have Jones, Nnadi and Pennel. They make guys like Hitchens and Wilson who were decent here look much better
     
  2. Sheepherder

    Sheepherder Active Member

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    Have you not heard that a good defensive tackle helps the linebackers to do their job?
     
  3. cowboyblue22

    cowboyblue22 Well-Known Member

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    one is made of glass the other one is worried about his money this is the result u usually get
     
  4. JoeKing

    JoeKing Diehard Zone Supporter

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    The whole team is built to be symbiotic that way. It's beside the point. The question was about the LB core.
     
  5. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    Because they somehow convinced themselves that Jaylon is good based on one hustle tackle he made against New Orleans, and they drafted a guy from Boise State who many teams didn't even have on their draft boards because he had a severely degenerative neck injury.

    Jaylon is a mindless pirate on a pogo stick, and Vander Esch is one minor bump away from retirement.
     
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  6. Cowboysheelsreds053

    Cowboysheelsreds053 Well-Known Member

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    Can't be the scheme because last year we wanted Rod gone and now a different scheme but same results. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, guess what that animal is?
     
  7. ClappingCarrot

    ClappingCarrot Well-Known Member

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    Jaylon is awful. He has no instincts, makes business decisions on the field, and has no pulse on how unlikeable he is.

    LVE is a competitor, but from what I see on film, it's hard to make an impact on a play when you're taking on blocks from Guards and Centers because your DL is getting blown immediately off the ball. No LB in the league can shed a block from a guy like Brandon Scherff.
     
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  8. JMPearson

    JMPearson Well-Known Member

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    only playing 2 at a time as a lot to do with it, just terrible system
     
  9. Sheepherder

    Sheepherder Active Member

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    That’s what I was trying to say
     
  10. exciter

    exciter Well-Known Member

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    Eberflus went to Indy in 2018... never coached lve!
     
  11. exciter

    exciter Well-Known Member

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    So you want a 3rd one trying to cover a WR on a consistent basis?
     
  12. bbailey423

    bbailey423 Well-Known Member

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    Still have NO IDEA why they extended this guy. This magical 2018 season must have happened while I was on a bathroom break. Its almost as if people don't understand that LBer play is a down in and down out....week to week expectation.....especially if you are highly compensated. He is living off that one hustle play against DeShan Watson....and even then....I think his clean hit on Watson hurt him more than it hurt Watson. Didn't that hit send Smith flying?
     
  13. ondaedg

    ondaedg Well-Known Member

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    It’s called game tape. Once teams saw how they got washed out in blockers and bite on play action or misdirection it was game over.
     
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  14. cern

    cern Well-Known Member

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    Well said. The guys up front are supposed to keep the opposing o-line off the lb's as much as possible. Our lb's have left to fend for themselves.
     
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  15. glimmerman

    glimmerman Well-Known Member

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    And the line is getting hands on them. But when they are clean they hit the wrong gap or miss a tackle. I watched LVE miss a few tackles. And safety out of position and taking really bad angles.
     
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  16. cern

    cern Well-Known Member

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    I do not believe jaylon is an all pro. But i doubt any lb or group of lb's would be successful behind this d-line.
     
  17. Praxit

    Praxit Well-Known Member

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    .....you have to wonder how he got this far in the NFL? Only someone like Jerry could bypass dumb football smarts and pay the guy.
     
  18. Chuck 54

    Chuck 54 Well-Known Member

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    The answer was on display Sunday. Jaylen leads the NFL in tackles. He and LVE combined for 24 tackles Sunday, but they were fighting through and around OLmen who didn’t have to block the DTs.
    Washington’s LB Holcomb looked like a pro bowler because he was running free to Zeke, to the QB, even to the wideouts on screens. When you have a dominant DL, LBs run free.
     
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  19. ondaedg

    ondaedg Well-Known Member

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    I would love to say that Jaylon is a tackling machine I really would. But he makes the majority of his tackles beyond the line of scrimmage. He doesn't stack and shed, is easily fooled by play action or misdirection, and is unable to get low, take on a block holding his ground while freeing up his outside arm to tackle the ball carrier. He plays standing straight up and skates backwards when taking on blockers more akin to a cb. You'll see him get thrown out of the play by a pulling OL with just a shove because he's playing so straight up and often times backpedaling. There is a reason why the Cowboys were dead last against the RB screen last season. I have nothing against Jaylon but he is at this point a terrible LB.
     
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  20. aria

    aria Well-Known Member

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    A goose?
     
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