How do you feel about this Offensive Line

[Teren_Kanan]

Play Calling (From both Coaching, and QB) will be the only thing holding this offense back. The talent is all there.

 

[CCBoy]

OK, I was just trying to be nice when I said his group was good at something else.

I will give him props for often admitting that he was wrong in his previous reports.

IMO, Broaddus is like Nick Hayden. Hayden would have been a good contributor last season if he played about 30% of the snaps; however, he ended up playing about 90% of the snaps and he was overwhelmed. If Broaddus really takes his time to evaluate players I think he has the ability to do it well; however, I think he has too much going and throws out a lot of thoughts that are just his emotions at the time, but not something he has really analyzed completely. He's even said that he likes to just get his thoughts out to people ASAP and is not too worried about accuracy.

I actually like Broaddus and don't intend to be too critical of him; however, his style of reporting is easy to misconstrue. It's all amplified by the fact that his minions basically repeat his thoughts over and over. Even the Blogger type reporters show a strong evidence that they are parroting him. He's really the only local reporter with any football background which causes a long list of people to repeat and parrot what he says. Unfortunately, they don't give him credit when they do it. They like to word it as if it's their own thoughts. This concept is more obvious in the off-season before training camp when you know that the bloggers don't have access to see anything that is going on themselves.

The process is amplified with each of the following steps:

1. Broaddus says something. It could be a an article, tweet, radio report or just something he tells his minions (the dc. com guys as well as Bob Sturm and Mike Fisher all discuss the Cowboys with him).

2. His minions repeat what he said.

3. Bloggers repeat what he said and/or what his minions said.

4. Message board posters repeat what he said and/or what his minions said and/or what some bloggers that were parroting him said.

5. Other message board posters repeat what previous message board posters said that originated with something that Broaddus originally said.

In electronic amplifiers, you don't want to amplify the noise (error); however, in the situation described above, the least error (noise) by Broaddus get drastically amplified due to how things proliferate through the internet. He can say a player had one terrible snap and it ends up at the message board level that the player is having a terrible camp and might as well be cut before the 1st preseason game.

I prefer to just see the preseason games myself on both the broadcast and the All-22. That prevents any amplification from getting into the process.

The other issue is that some players might be better in games than in practice and vise versa. There have been many top level talented players over the years that are known to not perform well in practice but that are terrific in games. Add to that that people report things from training camp without always knowing or referencing the specifics of the drills. Some drills are going to favor OL and some will favor DL. Many practice reps are done with exaggerated technique changes while a player is in the process of developing better techniques. An OL coach might instruct an player to do step a certain way in order to demonstrate that it does not work. Then somebody reports that the OLineman was dominated by the DL but in reality they were just working on technique. It's like a golfer at the driving range that tries things that they wouldn't try on the course.

X, if this were a parallel of the early days in car racing, what you are doing would be comparable to drag racing on Daytona Beach when it was actually run on the beach.

It is a 'classic' level of love in a sporting event. I wish there were a marketable item from you work, because what you do would be a Picker's dream. Good job our friend...and there are people that love just exactly what you bring to us, as fans!

Thank you, Sir...for your love of the sport.!!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

OK, I was just trying to be nice when I said his group was good at something else.

I will give him props for often admitting that he was wrong in his previous reports.

IMO, Broaddus is like Nick Hayden. Hayden would have been a good contributor last season if he played about 30% of the snaps; however, he ended up playing about 90% of the snaps and he was overwhelmed. If Broaddus really takes his time to evaluate players I think he has the ability to do it well; however, I think he has too much going and throws out a lot of thoughts that are just his emotions at the time, but not something he has really analyzed completely. He's even said that he likes to just get his thoughts out to people ASAP and is not too worried about accuracy.

I actually like Broaddus and don't intend to be too critical of him; however, his style of reporting is easy to misconstrue. It's all amplified by the fact that his minions basically repeat his thoughts over and over. Even the Blogger type reporters show a strong evidence that they are parroting him. He's really the only local reporter with any football background which causes a long list of people to repeat and parrot what he says. Unfortunately, they don't give him credit when they do it. They like to word it as if it's their own thoughts. This concept is more obvious in the off-season before training camp when you know that the bloggers don't have access to see anything that is going on themselves.

The process is amplified with each of the following steps:

1. Broaddus says something. It could be a an article, tweet, radio report or just something he tells his minions (the dc. com guys as well as Bob Sturm and Mike Fisher all discuss the Cowboys with him).

2. His minions repeat what he said.

3. Bloggers repeat what he said and/or what his minions said.

4. Message board posters repeat what he said and/or what his minions said and/or what some bloggers that were parroting him said.

5. Other message board posters repeat what previous message board posters said that originated with something that Broaddus originally said.

In electronic amplifiers, you don't want to amplify the noise (error); however, in the situation described above, the least error (noise) by Broaddus get drastically amplified due to how things proliferate through the internet. He can say a player had one terrible snap and it ends up at the message board level that the player is having a terrible camp and might as well be cut before the 1st preseason game.

I prefer to just see the preseason games myself on both the broadcast and the All-22. That prevents any amplification from getting into the process.

The other issue is that some players might be better in games than in practice and vise versa. There have been many top level talented players over the years that are known to not perform well in practice but that are terrific in games. Add to that that people report things from training camp without always knowing or referencing the specifics of the drills. Some drills are going to favor OL and some will favor DL. Many practice reps are done with exaggerated technique changes while a player is in the process of developing better techniques. An OL coach might instruct an player to do step a certain way in order to demonstrate that it does not work. Then somebody reports that the OLineman was dominated by the DL but in reality they were just working on technique. It's like a golfer at the driving range that tries things that they wouldn't try on the course.

As I read this I see you arguing for a conclusion using confirmation bias.

Any negative said against Parnell you lump into being a Broaddus minion and dismiss it.

Nick Eatman has a rivalry with Talkin Cowboys vs the Break that he brings up often. Steve Dennis is a contrarian by nature. Mickey Spagnola is noted for resisting saying anything negative about any Cowboy. Sorry but this notion that those three are going to fall in line with Broaddus saying something negative about a player is asinine and awfully convenient to boot.

Then you hedge your bets by this line that showing poor in practice doesn't matter either.

I expect fully that when he gives up a sack you are going to tell us how they shifted the protection away from him.

 

[CCBoy]

As I read this I see you arguing for a conclusion using confirmation bias.

Any negative said against Parnell you lump into being a Broaddus minion and dismiss it.

Nick Eatman has a rivalry with Talkin Cowboys vs the Break that he brings up often. Steve Dennis is a contrarian by nature. Mickey Spagnola is noted for resisting saying anything negative about any Cowboy. Sorry but this notion that those three are going to fall in line with Broaddus saying something negative about a player is asinine and awfully convenient to boot.

Then you hedge your bets by this line that showing poor in practice doesn't matter either.

I expect fully that when he gives up a sack you are going to tell us how they shifted the protection away from him.

Cutting to the chase on his comments - both Parnell and Weems have shown ability in camp. More has to be observed to determine if there is a step up. That being the element that still must be demonstrated to overcome Doug Free.

Observers such as Broaddus only are a contributor to observation limitations on subject. And many in the media are just mimes to his observations.

As the games come up, these Exhibition games will have a lot of value as well as indicate what is on board ship for now.

X stated that he prefers watching these games and 22 film to better understand complexity of roles.

Not really semantics by X...

 

[Bullflop]

How do I feel about our OL? How would any diehard fan feel about having one of the very best offensive lines in the entire NFL?

It looks like this is destined to be the year that our O-line finally breaks out of the ordinary and becomes something really special.

If that's not enough to feed the bulldog, then I dunno what is. I've been waiting for what seems like forever for this. Yippee-ki-yo!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Cutting to the chase on his comments - both Parnell and Weems have shown ability in camp. More has to be observed to determine if there is a step up. That being the element that still must be demonstrated to overcome Doug Free.

Observers such as Broaddus only are a contributor to observation limitations on subject. And many in the media are just mimes to his observations.

As the games come up, these Exhibition games will have a lot of value as well as indicate what is on board ship for now.

X stated that he prefers watching these games and 22 film to better understand complexity of roles.

Not really semantics by X...

Confirmation bias is all about preference.

 

[CCBoy]

Confirmation bias is all about preference.

Lol, that is true...but not in the views being expressed by X. He was applying the eyes similar to an announcer's or coach's. Not of a person pursuing statistical relevance in a broad survey for political or business effectiveness. Marketability or popularity enhancement being the target there.

 

[StarOfGlory]

I think two of the best lines in the NFL are in the East, us and Philly. I feel good about our line, and this year the rest of the NFL will have to acknowledge our front five.

 

[xwalker]

As I read this I see you arguing for a conclusion using confirmation bias.

Any negative said against Parnell you lump into being a Broaddus minion and dismiss it.

Nick Eatman has a rivalry with Talkin Cowboys vs the Break that he brings up often. Steve Dennis is a contrarian by nature. Mickey Spagnola is noted for resisting saying anything negative about any Cowboy. Sorry but this notion that those three are going to fall in line with Broaddus saying something negative about a player is asinine and awfully convenient to boot.

Then you hedge your bets by this line that showing poor in practice doesn't matter either.

I expect fully that when he gives up a sack you are going to tell us how they shifted the protection away from him.

I have not paid attention since Steve Dennis has been there. Yes, I'm sure that he goes contrary to what everybody else says, but he's not going to be interested in anything but the headline grabber like talk about Romo, etc.. Spags puts out very little written stuff these days. I don't remember seeing much from either of those 2 on twitter. People get way to influenced by what that group has to say on their videos and whatnot. The Helman guy is the primary guy that I see cranking out tweets. I posted two videos (vines) that he tweeted the other day that shows the bias. It's obvious they like guys like Free and Crawford. In the video, when Free was getting beat by no-name Dartwan Bush the caption is something to the effect that Free Wins. When it's Crawford rushing and not doing nearly as well as Bush, the caption is that Crawford Wins or something like that.

I spend a lot of time listening to sports talk radio and Broaddus, Fisher and those guys come on a report; however, I just can't take listening to "Talking Cowboys" and the "Lunch Break". I still can't get over when Nick Eatman had no clue who was on the team last year during the Blue-White scrimmage. He thought that one of the RBs was Keon Lattimore who has not been here in several years. He also called out numerous other players that were not on the roster anymore. I guess he somehow had an old roster, but it's incredible that he didn't realize those names were wrong.

I'm currently just cranky from a entire off-season of having all the information funneled though a small group of media people.

Like I said, we'll see for ourselves soon when the preseason games start.

 

[xwalker]

X, if this were a parallel of the early days in car racing, what you are doing would be comparable to drag racing on Daytona Beach when it was actually run on the beach.

It is a 'classic' level of love in a sporting event. I wish there were a marketable item from you work, because what you do would be a Picker's dream. Good job our friend...and there are people that love just exactly what you bring to us, as fans!

Thank you, Sir...for your love of the sport.!!

Thanks!

Performance Cars were my first love over football. I started obsessing about hotrods back in Middle School and spent my High School years constantly building engines and hotrods.

The old days of Car Racing were much more interesting to me. The Richard Petty days. Back then they were constantly innovating to improve the performance of the Cars. These days with restrictor plates and whatnot, that side of things has greatly diminished and the focus is just on the drivers.

 

[Hardline]

I am not going to break out the anointing oil for this OL just yet.... way to soon.
Considering who this OL is going against in training camp.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

I'm very happy with the direction and focus on improving what has been a disastrous and crippling offensive line. They've now got 3 excellent linemen and 2 serviceable linemen and these days that qualifies them as a top unit in the NFL. The media, as it always does, is overstating their status IMO. I dont see them as being able to dominate the league, just as possibly being capable of fielding an effective offense even against good defenses,,, we'll see how effective after they play a few good defenses.

 

[Brooksey]

We should run the ball more.

I think we will. If we can get Murray/Williams 20 touches and another 7-8 touches to Dunbar we'd really have something going. We have to get closer to 30 runs a game.

 

[morasp]

I think we will. If we can get Murray/Williams 20 touches and another 7-8 touches to Dunbar we'd really have something going. We have to get closer to 30 runs a game.

Sure hope you're right.

 

[Brooksey]

Sure hope you're right.

Me too!

 

[CowboyStar88]

In response to the thread on the Defensive line.

how does this look

Smith
Leary
Frederick
Martin
Free

Best line we've fielded in 15 years, tough smart young and athletic

 

[CowboyStar88]

We have a good o line, but doug free is preventing us from being a great online.

Couldn't disagree more, dude looks like a different player

 

[CowboyStar88]

I like Smith-Uche-Beardozer-Martin-Free better

Selling Leary short here he got first team snaps today and has looked good since coming back. He's a big strong dude and can really move people

 

[Clove]

Free has been having a good camp thus far, I don't see any reason why this Oline will not be great. Only concern I see is backup at Tackle

I think all excuses should finally be eliminated. No reason this offense shouldn't score at will now.

 

[DoctorChicken]

Selling Leary short here he got first team snaps today and has looked good since coming back. He's a big strong dude and can really move people

I'd love for Leary to win the job. He's younger, as well. But I really just want the best 5 players on the OL at one time, and Uche is pretty darn good.