How do you fit Det Wr Williams into the cap?

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I don't see how in the world you can fit WR Williams into the cap beyond this year 2008 if a trade happens.

T-New, Ware, Barber, Columbo, TO, Hamlin, Canty all want/need new contracts. WR Williams will want $8-10 mil/year. Same with TO. Barber will probably get $6-7 mil/yr. Ware is looking at $10 mil/yr. T-New also $10 mil/yr.

Trading Crayton gets you nowhere. You eat his $5 mil bonus. Trading S Roy Williams won't get you much savings.

Jerry may want a vet WR, but I don't see it cap-wise. I hope Jones can work some miracles with the cap numbers.
 

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So you're assuming TO will get an extension after this year. For the same money? Or a lesser deal given his advancing age?
 

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You smuggle him in and hope no one notices.

On second thought, sounds like a good first assignment for Pacman. :)
 

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Even if TO gets an extension, it will only be for 2-3 years. You could structure RW's contract such that his cap hit for the first 2-3 years is low and then balloons after that, when TO is gone.
 

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theogt;2050202 said:
Even if TO gets an extension, it will only be for 2-3 years. You could structure RW's contract such that his cap hit for the first 2-3 years is low and then balloons after that, when TO is gone.
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Hostile;2050195 said:
So you're assuming TO will get an extension after this year. For the same money? Or a lesser deal given his advancing age?

Look what LT Adams got. TO will not take less money than he is making now, imo. He's still producing. And the salaries are going up, up and up.
 

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ninja;2050190 said:
I don't see how in the world you can fit WR Williams into the cap beyond this year 2008 if a trade happens.

T-New, Ware, Barber, Columbo, TO, Hamlin, Canty all want/need new contracts. WR Williams will want $8-10 mil/year. Same with TO. Barber will probably get $6-7 mil/yr. Ware is looking at $10 mil/yr. T-New also $10 mil/yr.

Trading Crayton gets you nowhere. You eat his $5 mil bonus. Trading S Roy Williams won't get you much savings.

Jerry may want a vet WR, but I don't see it cap-wise. I hope Jones can work some miracles with the cap numbers.

I think what we will start seeing soon (next year or 2) is guys like Romo having their contract restructured to free up cap space. God knows Troy Aikman had his restructured many times to free up money
 

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ninja;2050207 said:
Look what LT Adams got. TO will not take less money than he is making now, imo. He's still producing. And the salaries are going up, up and up.

I have no problem with TO taking what he takes. Hes playing well, he deserves to get paid. Its players that aren't playing well that need to be adjusted.
 

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TO is only one part of the equation. What about all the other players that need to be signed? Barber, Ware, T-New, Canty, etc. That is serious coin. The Cowboys are only $4 mil under the cap now. Even if the cap goes up every year, it ain't enough.
 

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It will be interesting to see what transipires as far as the owners vs. the players union next year when there isn't a cap... wonder how that will affect the money spent on salaries??
 

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it's all about how you structure the deal. signing him would'nt be the problem, trading for him is going to be the problem. we have no business giving two #1's for anyone with the needs we have on this team
 

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ninja;2050228 said:
TO is only one part of the equation. What about all the other players that need to be signed? Barber, Ware, T-New, Canty, etc. That is serious coin. The Cowboys are only $4 mil under the cap now. Even if the cap goes up every year, it ain't enough.
I do worry that Newman will not be retained.

Yes, I am serious.
 

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Hostile;2050277 said:
I do worry that Newman will not be retained.

Yes, I am serious.
Yeah, and even though he's clearly one of the top 5 corners in the league, it may be the smartest move. He could command more than Tony's contract in the open market. And if Pacman's nose has been clean up until that point and our corner from this draft looks viable, it could happen.
 

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theogt;2050288 said:
Yeah, and even though he's clearly one of the top 5 corners in the league, it may be the smartest move. He could command more than Tony's contract in the open market. And if Pacman's nose has been clean up until that point and our corner from this draft looks viable, it could happen.
If there is truly an uncapped year in 2010 as Jerry predicts we won't lose a soul.

I'd bet on that.
 

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Here's some info from AdamJT13 on how to open more cap space(info is from the salary cap sticky in daily zone):

We could restructure Romo's contract to give him the minimum salary this season and pay him the rest of his old salary as a signing bonus to save $4.9125 million of cap room.

We could extend Owens' contract and save just about as much -- $6.17 million minus whatever the prorated portion of his new signing bonus would be. For example, if he signed a four-year extension (this year plus four more) and got an $10 million signing bonus, we'd save $4.17 million of cap room.

We also could sign Hamlin to a long-term contract. That could save $2 million, easily (possibly more, depending on the size of the contract).

There are other ways, but those three are the easiest ways to save a lot of cap room (the three examples I used would save more than $11 million of cap room, combined). The question is whether there are players out there worth spending it on.
Also remember that players already have current cap hits so you only have to count the difference since they are already counting the current ones. Newman counts $2,422,440, Ware counts $2,157,000. And by and large most contracts have smaller cap hits in the early years and get larger in the latter years, so don't just use the average of the contract.
 

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Hostile;2050303 said:
If there is truly an uncapped year in 2010 as Jerry predicts we won't lose a soul.

I'd bet on that.
We can keep our fingers crossed.
 

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Hostile;2050277 said:
I do worry that Newman will not be retained.

Yes, I am serious.

I made mention of this a few weeks ago. While I believe that something will be worked out, I would not be surprised to see Newman or Henry moved before the draft. I mean, I'm not even trying to say that this is a rumor or that it should be considered but if a team came calling, I would not be surprised to see us do something.
 

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It would be tough to fit a high $$$ FA WR but it could be done and still sign everyone they want to. First Hamlin and Colombo are probably gone. The price for safetys went way up and we have 3 young OTs that have to step up and play. That will give you $7-8 million in cap space right there. Barber and Canty are on 1 year tenders to the tune of $4.5 million so that money will be available again next year or will help offset the cap number of any deal they sign. Cutting Roy Williams and Akin could save a few million as well. Then you can restructure guys like Romo, Witten, James, and Davis. All these moves together could produce close to $20 million in cap space to go with the $4 million we have now. Thats is more than enough to sign everyone especially if a few of the deals are cap friendly for the first few years. How do you think the skins went from $20 million over to $7-8 million below. There are many many ways to create cap space.
 
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