How does Josh McDaniels gets no love as a possible candidate in Dallas?

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  1. Whyjerry

    Whyjerry Well-Known Member

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    I was doing the Urban Meyer dance last week. This week I am going back to my favorite coordinator candidate...Josh McDaniels. Sure he failed in Denver. He had no QB. Big Bill failed in Cleveland. McDaniels is an elite coordinator. He has Pats pedigree. He wins and moves the ball without Brady. He wins with new skill guys every year. I know the HC looms large in New England but in my opinion McDaniels is one of his best coordinators.Yet when some talk next coach they sing the praises of Lincoln Riley. That guy has won nothing. Why no love for McDaniels?
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  2. VACowboy

    VACowboy Well-Known Member

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  3. 65fastback2plus2

    65fastback2plus2 Well-Known Member

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    He should be but Denver's performance and his drafting of tebow in the 1st hurt his HC stock.

    Second is, everyone presumes he only performs because he works under Bill and if you remove bill then he'd be nothing (I dont agree)
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  4. Sydla

    Sydla Well-Known Member

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    Because he's not trustworthy, he's arrogant to a fault, he was exposed in Denver, he is a guy who thinks he's smarter than every one else (like when he wasted a first round pick on Tim Tebow like a moron), and frankly, the Belichick coaching tree doesn't really seem to produce great HCs.
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  5. Colombiacowboy

    Colombiacowboy Well-Known Member

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    Exhibit A: Denver
    Exhibit B: He backed out of Indy.

    So not only is he a loser and system guy, he also has no character.
  6. Hawkeye0202

    Hawkeye0202 Well-Known Member

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    1000% ....good post! His tree hasn't done well at all.....last I checked ( sometime last year ), ALL his former assistants, with the exception of Texan's O'Brien, had coaching records of 500 or below.
  7. Sydla

    Sydla Well-Known Member

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    Yep, his assistants that have moved on haven't had great success out on their own............ Weis, Crennel are two others that pretty much crashed and burned.
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  8. JoeKing

    JoeKing Diehard Zone Supporter

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    No love for what? Is there a job opening? I'm not aware of any.
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  9. Proof

    Proof Well-Known Member

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    basically this. And he comes off as a weasel and just can’t see the personality fit on top of the rest.
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  10. EGTuna

    EGTuna Well-Known Member

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    McDaniels isn't a good HC candidate for the reasons listed above; went all Machiavelli in Denver, Ghosted Indy and has the benefit of coaching Brady and being under the Belichick umbrella. I wouldn't trust him on his own.

    Belichick's coaching tree is nothing but a Ponzi Scheme created by Belichick to create easy wins/weak teams in the AFC so he can have a better path to the #1/#2 seed.
  11. Runwildboys

    Runwildboys Well-Known Member

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    Seems like there's more than one answer to the OP's question.
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  12. Runwildboys

    Runwildboys Well-Known Member

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    Well that last part seems like a miniseries waiting to happen.
  13. CouchCoach

    CouchCoach Well-Known Member

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    He is the heir apparent in NE and I think that's why he backed out on Indy.
  14. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    None of New Englands coaches do well without Belichick for whatever reason.

    Belichick usually does fine when he doesn't have Tom Brady as well so it's mostly him.
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  15. dwreck27

    dwreck27 Well-Known Member

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    The Belichick coaching tree is very dead with next to zero signs of life by anyone....

    Quite a feat for a coaching GOAT to have zero assistants worth a hoot
  16. nightrain

    nightrain Since 1971

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    J.M. is the heir apparent to the NE throne. It's the best place for him, the culture is already in place. Matt Patricia has a decent football team in Detroit, but he is having a difficult time simulating the NE culture there. I think Patricia will soon be one of Belichick's most successful proteges.
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  17. Bullflop

    Bullflop Well-Known Member

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    You were likely better off with your Urban Meyer preference, whether or not it ever comes to fruition. There's far from any guarantee Jerry will see fit to disassociate himself with Jason Garrett, anyway. Like he said, he's looking for reasons to keep him -- not overly encouraging by a longshot. :rolleyes:
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  18. rocyaice

    rocyaice Well-Known Member

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    I don’t want any coach from the Bellicheat tree.
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  19. mattjames2010

    mattjames2010 Well-Known Member

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    I am about 100% certain he stayed in NE because they have plans for him to take over once Belichick hangs it up. Whether Kraft was being honest about this, who knows.
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  20. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    Some guys are just victim of the Peter Principle. McDaniels is an OC.

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