How long before a new rule is in place to make sure Dallas never gets that chance again?

[Doomsday101]

I don't think its a conspiracy theory. I think there should be a serious concern among the owners that the Collins situation, should it ever happen again, should be handled differently. This situation is so different than anything else because all 32 teams would want him and be willing to pay him the maximum allowed by the rules. In that situation, the high profile and successful teams have too much of an advantage to land the player. If Collins was a Patriots fan growing up and signed with them without giving anyone else a chance, how would we all be feeling about the way it all unfolded?

Collins said he was not a fan of any team growing up, he said he followed players not teams. According to Collin he and his agents discussed all 32 teams. Prior to that they asked the NFL to allow him to enter the draft in 2016 and the league told him no. Buffalo was the 1st to approach him and he had been in contact with Miami. Dallas did not have any unfair advantage. If the league wants to change the rule about how much you can offer an UDFA then that could have made a difference. Now try to get 2/3 of the owners to agree to it

 

[Longboysfan]

They could change the rule that a player will not be able to reenter the draft the following year if they refuse to sign with a team. A team would of surely taken a late round flyer on Collins if his agent didn't make that threat.

Most likely thing to happen.

 

[hornitosmonster]

I'm sure the league will take a look at it

 

[Fletch]

You know Mara is livid as well as others. I mean the kid didn't even give another team a chance. Jerry's selling skills coupled with that star on the helmet and that stadium is too much to compete with. I think the league will address the Collins situation and change their process for if it ever happens again.

Okay, then the Chargers need to tell Mara to give them back Eli. Not that the Chargers would do that as it stands now. In fact, I'm sure the Chargers would laugh at that very notion.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

You know Mara is livid as well as others. I mean the kid didn't even give another team a chance. Jerry's selling skills coupled with that star on the helmet and that stadium is too much to compete with. I think the league will address the Collins situation and change their process for if it ever happens again.

A wheeler dealer like Jerruh will make mincemeat out of any rule imposed. There is always a way around them.

 

[Cowboys22]

A wheeler dealer like Jerruh will make mincemeat out of any rule imposed. There is always a way around them.

That's my point. They will take that aspect out of it by the next time an innocent 1st round talent goes undrafted. They will either let them withdraw from the draft or take away the threat of not signing if taken with a late pick.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

That's my point. They will take that aspect out of it by the next time an innocent 1st round talent goes undrafted. They will either let them withdraw from the draft or take away the threat of not signing if taken with a late pick.

I can't see the rest of the league going along with anything of this sort.

 

[gambit187]

I understand that. You don't think there are many other owners upset about this that want no part of competing with Jones for a player like Collins in this type of situation. We just got a glimpse of what would happen if there was no draft.

Or No Salary Cap

 

[xwalker]

You know Mara is livid as well as others. I mean the kid didn't even give another team a chance. Jerry's selling skills coupled with that star on the helmet and that stadium is too much to compete with. I think the league will address the Collins situation and change their process for if it ever happens again.

It has never happened in the history of the league as far as I know. The probability of it happening again is so small that it's not worth thinking about.

People claiming that a player and team would somehow conspire to make it happen are just being stupid. Collins lost about 8M to 10M dollars though this ordeal. No player in the future would intentionally try to make that happen.

 

[Cowboys22]

I can't see the rest of the league going along with anything of this sort.

Why not? What part of what happened was fair to Collins? He lost millions due to nothing he did or could control. He should have had the chance to withdraw, clear his name, and go into the supplemental draft where he likely would have been a 1st round pick. He then would have got his money.

 

[Cowboys22]

It has never happened in the history of the league as far as I know. The probability of it happening again is so small that it's not worth thinking about.

People claiming that a player and team would somehow conspire to make it happen are just being stupid. Collins lost about 8M to 10M dollars though this ordeal. No player in the future would intentionally try to make that happen.

I agree but if it happened once, it can happen again. I think they will address it. The entire situation was totally unfair to the player and the league should fix it so it doesn't happen to anyone else.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

The league needs to look at their rules so that a kid like Collins does not get completely railroaded again. As for Dallas signing him, well, that is on the other teams in the league. They could have drafted him or given him a better sales pitch than Dallas, but they did not. I hope this kid puts Giants d-linemen on their backs in game 1 while Mara watches.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

Why not? What part of what happened was fair to Collins? He lost millions due to nothing he did or could control. He should have had the chance to withdraw, clear his name, and go into the supplemental draft where he likely would have been a 1st round pick. He then would have got his money.

Well, I think the rule is in place to discourage someone from just trying to skip the draft and sign with who they want. That's why it is worded the way it is and someone like Collins cannot sign a huge contract. So the way it is now, if they skip the draft they get punished. It wasn't fair to Collins but he did not meet the requirements for the supplemental draft. I would agree that part might need to be looked at, since he was indeed not drafted, but the UDFA rules would have to change as well. If all UDFA were eligible for the supplemental, that would more than likely turn the supplemental into a main draft type situation all over again, sort of the "what's left that no one rally wanted" draft. It's sort of opening up a can of worms just because someone is butthurt over the Cowboys signing Collins, which anyone else could have done anyway.

 

[xwalker]

I agree but if it happened once, it can happen again. I think they will address it. The entire situation was totally unfair to the player and the league should fix it so it doesn't happen to anyone else.

What can they really do about it? If they allow players to jump to the supplemental draft a day or two before the actual draft, they will be inundated with players wanting to do that for various minor reasons.

The issue with Collins was not what happened (ex girlfriend murdered) but the timing of it. If it had happened a full week ahead of time, then teams would have been able to sort it out and he would still have been drafted.

It's much more likely that next time something weird happens it will be different and still won't be covered by the rules even if they put in a new rule specifically to address the Collins situation.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

If any rule change needs to be made is that the Commissioner is voted on equally between the owners and the NFLPA. Commissioners hand picked by the owners only invites the buddy buddy system that exists between guys like Mara and Goodell.

 

[Craig]

Preventing teams from drafting a players through 7 rounds? You cant kegislate something away that happens thousands of times per offseason.

 

[jrumann59]

What planet have you been living on? they have been making these new BS cowboys rules for years. the Emmit Smith rule. the Erik Williams Rule. the Roy Williams horse collar rule.it's been one thing after the other. Mara and others will make sure it never happens again. the NFL is pissed about this. SO WAKE UP!

Really are you going to equate player "safety" rules to, what to do with a high talent prospect that got caught up into something that effected his draft status. Whether you like the player safety rules the only reason the cowboys get "named" is because of the high profile of the person that was guilty of the violations. Roy Williams rule people were getting injured, Erik Williams rule face masking a ball carrier is not ok but it is ok for a lineman? Emmitt Rule was stupid part of the No Fun League. Marion barber Rule same as Erik Williamms rule except for a runner.

 

[jrumann59]

What planet have you been living on? they have been making these new BS cowboys rules for years. the Emmit Smith rule. the Erik Williams Rule. the Roy Williams horse collar rule.it's been one thing after the other. Mara and others will make sure it never happens again. the NFL is pissed about this. SO WAKE UP!

Really a bunch of fans whining equates to the NFL being pissed, that is quite a leap.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

Preventing teams from drafting a players through 7 rounds? You cant kegislate something away that happens thousands of times per offseason.

Why do I get a vision of drunken politicians when I read this post?

 

[lostar2009]

That's my point. The other owners know that and will change the rule and probably allow the player to go to the supplemental draft.

Well in all honesty this is an unsual case. The league denied his request to enter the supplemental draft. At that point he hit udfa status and is free to sign with anyone. But hey the hate for Dallas is so strong I can seem them doing something. But you don't see them messing with the Patriots. They have been caught cheating for years.