How many carries will Zeke take ?

[YosemiteSam]

I suggest we let the game dictate his carries.

 

[Romotil45]

I'm not going to complain about the pick I fought hard against it but now what is done is done. If we come a consistent playoff team his 320 carries during regular season plus 40-50 carries in playoff or more in five years he will have fallen off the 1800 carry cliff and no team will want to touch him.

1800 carry cliff
https://m.numberfire.com/nfl/news/4...k-longevity-falling-off-the-1-800-carry-cliff

 

[CF74]

20-30 carries per game with the others playing garbage time...

 

[conner01]

Thats my point if he takes 320 carries a year in five years no one will touch him you think hes ok with that ?

A RB will take every carry they can get. If he puts up big numbers then someone will offer him big money. Look what Murray got after one good year, put up 5 good years and it will be show me the money time, if he can stay healthy.

 

[Romotil45]

A RB will take every carry they can get. If he puts up big numbers then someone will offer him big money. Look what Murray got after one good year, put up 5 good years and it will be show me the money time, if he can stay healthy.

If Zeke is smart and he want to get to a second contact he will limit his own carries if he has too. You think Zeke doesn't know about the 1800 carry cliff and the fact that NFL have learned to stay away from it ? If he doesn't know yet he will soon.

 

[Romotil45]

I'm not going to

A RB will take every carry they can get. If he puts up big numbers then someone will offer him big money. Look what Murray got after one good year, put up 5 good years and it will be show me the money time, if he can stay healthy.

Murry was well away from the 1800 carry cliff when the eagles signed him but if we load Zeke up he will never see a second contract. I don't think he's down for that just watch what happens when McFadden gets in his ear.

 

[conner01]

If Zeke is smart and he want to get to a second contact he will limit his own carries if he has too. You think Zeke doesn't know about the 1800 carry cliff and the fact that NFL have learned to stay away from it ? If he doesn't know yet he will soon.

Any player wanting to limit his carries isn't gonna get a second contract anyway. What makes a player great is never wanting to come out.

 

[Romotil45]

Any player wanting to limit his carries isn't gonna get a second contract anyway. What makes a player great is never wanting to come out.

What these lead back want is to have 230-250 carries a year 1100-1200 yrds a season so in five years they can get a good second contract. Because they will have 2 good solid season before they hit the 1800 cliff.

 

[Sydla]

What these lead back want is to have 230-250 carries a year 1100-1200 yrds a season so in five years they can get a good second contract. Because they will have 2 good solid season before they hit the 1800 cliff.

No offense, but I don't think you really know what lead backs want other than a 2nd contract obviously. These guys are competitors and football players. They want the ball in their hands all the time. I seriously doubt Elliott is sitting around saying, I just want 230 carries a year. He probably wants every single carry the Cowboys have.

 

[Romotil45]

No offense, but I don't think you really know what lead backs want other than a 2nd contract obviously. These guys are competitors and football players. They want the ball in their hands all the time. I seriously doubt Elliott is sitting around saying, I just want 230 carries a year. He probably wants every single carry the Cowboys have.

He will say that of course they all will but the millions of dollars they would make in a second contract out ways that its just the economic reality of the NFL theses days. Would you want to burn your chances of a second contract and throw away several mil ?

 

[conner01]

No offense, but I don't think you really know what lead backs want other than a 2nd contract obviously. These guys are competitors and football players. They want the ball in their hands all the time. I seriously doubt Elliott is sitting around saying, I just want 230 carries a year. He probably wants every single carry the Cowboys have.

I agree. I think the good ones want every carry they can get. EE seems like a RB who wants to be great, not part time. I'm betting in his mind he would like to be the next great Cowboy RB and the great ones carried the ball as many times as they could

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

To me the amount of carries he gets is ancillary. It's how they use him in the passing game that I care about. If he is not out running routes and utilizing the skills of "the most complete back to come out in a long time" in the passing game to great effect, I will be very disappointed.

He needs to be better and more dynamic than what Murray was in 2014. Linehan needs to dust off his old Rams playbook and go to work.

Have him run the inside and outside zone plays where he excels. Have DMC come in for the lead iso's and similar man calls he likes that also serve as a change of pace. Both are good blockers so you can even have them both on the field at the same time if you want and have them alternately play F-back.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Lol, when I glanced at the title I thought it read "how many carnies will Zeke take"

 

[Romotil45]

They had over 450 in 2014. So yeah 500 is probably high but if people are so certain we are going back to 2014 levels, 450 total carries from TBs is what we did in 2014.

500 is pretty close but tailbacks did 472 and Romo Weeden n Harris combined for 30. Plus that includes the playoffs Im talking regular season which would come to 420. So Zeke could take 250 carries n McFadden Morris could split 170 carries and that would replace the production of the 2014 season.

 

[Romotil45]

500 is pretty close but tailbacks did 472 and Romo Weeden n Harris combined for 30. Plus that includes the playoffs Im talking regular season which would come to 420. So Zeke could take 250 carries n McFadden Morris could split 170 carries and that would replace the production of the 2014 season.

Although McFadden is in a contract yr he's going to want more carries than that and so one of them McFadden or Morris will be traded or released. Lets just assume McFadden plays some where else this year because he has less guaranteed money on his contract. That would mean it will most likely be Morris taking those 170 carries.

 

[zrinkill]

90%

Any running play where he is not carrying the ball is a waste.

 

[darthseinfeld]

You unwittingly just help prove one of the concerns about taking a TB at 4. Because of the nature of the position, you guys are now talking about limiting carries for him to keep him fresh and not have him break down in 4-5 years. That's bizarre because that was one of the big reasons why people said don't take a TB at 4............. because to get the value out of that pick you have to use him a lot and the RB position takes a major beating.

So if we are worried about our drafted TB being used too much for fear he might break down, then we aren't really getting true value from taking a TB at 4. If we are now saying he should get 250 carries a year and then the other 250 should be split between our other TBs, then we aren't getting true value from that TB.

We were told he was the next best thing to AP. 19.9 carries per game is 320 per year. That's where Elliott needs to be. 290-320 a year in carries.

I am not surprised that after all the bluster about how great Elliott was going to be and how big his immediate impact was going to be, we are now seeing people walk back expectations for him. LOL.

A HB at 4 is a pure win now move. Use him. I see 300 carries this year