How many of our drug suspensions have been legit

[Jake]

and how many failed drug tests from other teams have been swept under the carpet? With this obvious conspiracy to nail Zeke and the Cowboys and the way the Dez catch went down, I have no trust in the league to provide fairness to the Dallas Cowboys.

We have all seen how the NY Giants can have the worst OL in the league and yet never get called for holding penalties against us (even when DeMarcus Ware was a dominating player he never got a call against the Giants).

Also, think about how the Packer game ended last year with David Irving being held by not one player but THREE! A ref was right there on the play but never threw his flag.

I also heard from someone who knows someone who last year worked in the NFL office that claims that LeVeon Bell failed a drug test last season that would have resulted in a 10 game suspension, but it was quietly swept under the carpet. How often does this happen? It may not be a coincidence that the Cowboys always lead the league in suspensions.

I haven't trusted this league for awhile now and my trust is now at an all-time low. And like I've said in the past; "The Cowboys will never win a Super Bowl as long as Roger Goodell and John Mara are running the league".

 

[DFWJC]

Yea. No.
I suspect all our drug suspensions have been legit. There are actual failed tests.

Yep
And
It would not surprise me if Zeke is already in the program.
I think you have to fail 3-4 times before there's repercussions.

 

[ConceptCoop]

However I do suspect other players have tested positive and gotten away with it including possibly other Cowboys. I think the NFL only suspends the habitual abusers.

I don't think that's it. The league is absolutely full of habitual users. They give everyone a heads up and suspend those who still fail.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

are they really failed? league could've rigged the tests, paid off the tester, who knows how deep the rabbit hole goes.............just kidding haha

yea, McClain and Gregory don't really seem like pot heads to me

 

[xwalker]

If we're having a serious discussion, it makes no sense for the NFL to conspire against Dallas. Our playoff game against GB last season was the highest rated non-SB game in the history of Fox Sports and the highest rated non-SB in the NFL in 25 years. Last year 8 of the top 10 most viewed games involved Dallas. Cowboys merchandise sales account for 15% of all NFL merchandise revenue, nobody else is over 8%.

We are the straw that stirs the drink. A Cowboys/Patriots Super Bowl would have been the most viewed television program, sports or otherwise, in the history of mankind. It's in the NFL's best interest we succeed.

The NFL appears to be a group of individuals doing what's in their best interest, not the league's best interest.

It happens at many big companies. The big picture issues that seem easy to see from outsiders get convoluted and details obscure the big picture.

Many companies get focused on everything except their customers.

The main reason small companies often have great success despite far less resources than big conpanies is due to big company ineptness.

 

[DeaconBlues]

are they really failed? league could've rigged the tests, paid off the tester, who knows how deep the rabbit hole goes.............just kidding haha

Have you read even one interview w/ players indicating they did not use said drug?

There's your answer.

 

[ThreeandOut]

After this travesty, I would never give the league the benefit of the doubt on anything.

 

[Verdict]

I imagine every failed test we had was legit. I doubt that they have swept failed tests under the rug for players on other teams.

It would not surprise me if tests are not totally random for other teams though. That's something the NFL could get by with by saying hey we are going to text Laveon Bell a month from now. Just a heads up.

Then Bell gets a "random" test in 4 weeks he is ready for. Statistically they could manipulate it to look random when it's not really random at all.

I am not saying that is the case. I am saying that sort of thing would be a lot more likely.

 

[cowboyblue22]

I don't trust this league at all I am beginning to wonder if the game results are not tampered with by calls and penalties

 

[Doomsay]

If we're having a serious discussion, it makes no sense for the NFL to conspire against Dallas. Our playoff game against GB last season was the highest rated non-SB game in the history of Fox Sports and the highest rated non-SB in the NFL in 25 years. Last year 8 of the top 10 most viewed games involved Dallas. Cowboys merchandise sales account for 15% of all NFL merchandise revenue, nobody else is over 8%.

We are the straw that stirs the drink. A Cowboys/Patriots Super Bowl would have been the most viewed television program, sports or otherwise, in the history of mankind. It's in the NFL's best interest we succeed.

There are smaller minds at work within the NY headquarters, the league makes enough money to be pernicious.

 

[Doomsay]

I doubt the league will sweep a failed drif test under the rug. If anything the media will reports our and ignore other teams.

There are thresholds, it's not absolute.

 

[DallasInDC]

If we're having a serious discussion, it makes no sense for the NFL to conspire against Dallas. Our playoff game against GB last season was the highest rated non-SB game in the history of Fox Sports and the highest rated non-SB in the NFL in 25 years. Last year 8 of the top 10 most viewed games involved Dallas. Cowboys merchandise sales account for 15% of all NFL merchandise revenue, nobody else is over 8%.

We are the straw that stirs the drink. A Cowboys/Patriots Super Bowl would have been the most viewed television program, sports or otherwise, in the history of mankind. It's in the NFL's best interest we succeed.

Doesn't Jerry get 100% of his merchandise sales when he broke with the league to do his own marketing?

 

[Beast_from_East]

After railroading Zeke, I don't trust anything the league says so yea, there is a chance the suspensions are not legit.

 

[BigStar]

If we're having a serious discussion, it makes no sense for the NFL to conspire against Dallas. Our playoff game against GB last season was the highest rated non-SB game in the history of Fox Sports and the highest rated non-SB in the NFL in 25 years. Last year 8 of the top 10 most viewed games involved Dallas. Cowboys merchandise sales account for 15% of all NFL merchandise revenue, nobody else is over 8%.

We are the straw that stirs the drink. A Cowboys/Patriots Super Bowl would have been the most viewed television program, sports or otherwise, in the history of mankind. It's in the NFL's best interest we succeed.

Maybe payback from the other owners when he deviated from the NFL revenue sharing agreement early on. This article talks of JJ going into the hall of fame and some of the animosity that has been built amongst other owners (Mara is mentioned specifically) over the years from his early days. Revenge for the sake of profits does sound like cutting off your nose to spite your face but these owners are making money hand over fist as is. It's a stretch but who knows?
http://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-cow...nes-maverick-ways-changed-nfls-business-model

 

[Jarv]

and how many failed drug tests from other teams have been swept under the carpet? With this obvious conspiracy to nail Zeke and the Cowboys and the way the Dez catch went down, I have no trust in the league to provide fairness to the Dallas Cowboys.

We have all seen how the NY Giants can have the worst OL in the league and yet never get called for holding penalties against us (even when DeMarcus Ware was a dominating player he never got a call against the Giants).

Also, think about how the Packer game ended last year with David Irving being held by not one player but THREE! A ref was right there on the play but never threw his flag.

I also heard from someone who knows someone who last year worked in the NFL office that claims that LeVeon Bell failed a drug test last season that would have resulted in a 10 game suspension, but it was quietly swept under the carpet. How often does this happen? It may not be a coincidence that the Cowboys always lead the league in suspensions.

I haven't trusted this league for awhile now and my trust is now at an all-time low. And like I've said in the past; "The Cowboys will never win a Super Bowl as long as Roger Goodell and John Mara are running the league".

Yes, Bell was treated differently than Gregory...Wonder if this can also be brought up in Zeke's case, more proof of the conspiracy and different rules for different players. ...Here's an excerpt.

https://nflspinzone.com/2017/01/06/randy-gregory-suspension-looks-bad-nfl-nflpa-leveon-bell/


What’s even more puzzling is why the league was so harsh on Gregory and why the NFLPA didn’t fight hard enough to get him on the field after missing 14 games. While most will say he deserves it, then so too did Pittsburgh Steelers running back Le’Veon Bell.

Bell was arrested for marijuana possession and a DUI before the 2015 season. He was subsequently suspended four games, but somehow got that reduced to two thanks to a plea dea between the NFL and NFLPA.

The talented running back thanked the NFLPA for their help by going out and still smoking. He then missed a test (reportedly due to knowing he would fail) and was again suspended four games. His second suspension wasn’t the normal 10 a player (like Gregory) receives for a second offense because of the agreement between the league and players reps.

So again, Bell and the NFLPA got to work on this four-game ban, and most knew he would get some favor. Pro Football Talk’s Michael David Smith was one of the people talking about how the running back has had success while Bell was appealing his second-straight season opening suspension.

Bell has had limited success appealing a suspension once before: He was initially suspended for the first three games of last season for violating the league’s substance-abuse policy after he was arrested for marijuana possession and DUI, but he appealed and got that suspension reduced to two games.
Of course, the league allowed Bell to miss just three games. The kicker, though, is that he also is still in the initial stages of the program thanks to his second-straight settlement. Moreover, he will only be suspended four games when he misses his next drug test (which as history shows could be before the 2017 season).

Yet for defensive players like Gregory, there was never such a positive vibe. There was never any talk of a settlement and there was never nay chance the league would bend. Instead of the success stories flying around the internet there was a sense of doom for Dallas fans, as the headlines were bad like this one via All 22.com‘s Sean Shapiro where Dallas Cowboys insider Brandon George says there is no excuse for missing a drug test in the eyes of the NFL:

It’s unlikely for him to win an appeal. Most players always lose these kind of appeals because the bottom line is: He missed a drug test in November. There’s really no good excuse for missing a drug test, so it’s going to be hard for him to win this appeal.
While George is right, the fact is this was only true for one of the two players who were suspended this season. Bell, who even was arrested while driving drunk and having pot, has been suspended for a total of five games. Gregory has been sat down for 14 and can’t even ask the league to return until January 2018.

 

[ghst187]

I find it highly suspicious that no NYG players were popped for drug testing after that drug cruise the WRs went on last season.
Had there been a false rumor that one of our players had been on it, they would've been suspended immediately.

 

[tideh20heel]

I don't trust this league at all I am beginning to wonder if the game results are not tampered with by calls and penalties

You mean like the Dez catch?

 

[DogFace]

If we're having a serious discussion, it makes no sense for the NFL to conspire against Dallas. Our playoff game against GB last season was the highest rated non-SB game in the history of Fox Sports and the highest rated non-SB in the NFL in 25 years. Last year 8 of the top 10 most viewed games involved Dallas. Cowboys merchandise sales account for 15% of all NFL merchandise revenue, nobody else is over 8%.

We are the straw that stirs the drink. A Cowboys/Patriots Super Bowl would have been the most viewed television program, sports or otherwise, in the history of mankind. It's in the NFL's best interest we succeed.

Check our sales/ratings when we're average or even bad. It's good.

I don't think it's a conspiracy it's bias by the refs. Those bad calls can't be explained away and the oddity of many of them or lack of calls at all against the other team are telling.

The Zeke thing, however, is a conspiracy. The motives aren't necessarily to screw the Cowboys, but it's a welcome byproduct and I'm not positive it would happen to every team. See Eli fake jersey case.

 

[haleyrules]

Maybe payback from the other owners when he deviated from the NFL revenue sharing agreement early on. This article talks of JJ going into the hall of fame and some of the animosity that has been built amongst other owners (Mara is mentioned specifically) over the years from his early days. Revenge for the sake of profits does sound like cutting off your nose to spite your face but these owners are making money hand over fist as is. It's a stretch but who knows?
http://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-cow...nes-maverick-ways-changed-nfls-business-model

The revenue sharing has cost the Cowboys plenty. That has always been held agianst Jones.

 

[haleyrules]

I don't trust this league at all I am beginning to wonder if the game results are not tampered with by calls and penalties

This has been a problem in hockey for yrs. It a fixed fight and always has been. The league wants certain teams to win to promote the sport.