How Many Rookies Make This Team???

[philo beddoe]

Just curious. I figure we won't come out of this draft with 10 draft picks. We'll likely package some to move up for players. How many draft picks combined with UDFAs will make the 2008 squad? Thoughts?

 

[Yeagermeister]

Just guessing at the most 5 or 6.

 

[philo beddoe]

Just guessing at the most 5 or 6.

No "Dirty Dozen" or anything, huh? I think this teamd needs 8-10 to stick.

 

[TheProphet]

Just curious. I figure we won't come out of this draft with 10 draft picks. We'll likely package some to move up for players. How many draft picks combined with UDFAs will make the 2008 squad? Thoughts?

Interesting topic. I agree with Yeager, 5-6 at the most. However, it will be fun to hear what others on this board think.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

5 rookies ....and two FA's

 

[fanfromvirginia]

Just guessing at the most 5 or 6.

Yep. I've been guessing 5-7.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Just guessing at the most 5 or 6.

That sounds about right...along with a couple on the practice squad.

I guess then it's just a matter of who they're knocking off the team.

I would think Reeves and Jones' spots are up for grabs if they draft a corner. Elam's and even KD if they grab another safety.

All the bottom receivers outside of Crayton, tho he hasn't signed his tender yet. They need to grab another WR

I think they need another TE with only two on the roster.

Stanley's spot is not a lock but will be if they dont grab another NT.

 

[Ceasaleo88]

Well I read somewhere that Jerry wants to hit on at least 7 out of the 10 picks. But I figure that we end up with maybe 4-5 draft picks and 2-3 UDFA on the team. Sometimes I think the undrafted guys have better chances of sticking with the team than the late round guys.

 

[iceberg]

That sounds about right...along with a couple on the practice squad.

I guess then it's just a matter of who they're knocking off the team.

I would think Reeves and Jones' spots are up for grabs if they draft a corner. Elam's and even KD if they grab another safety.

All the bottom receivers outside of Crayton, tho he hasn't signed his tender yet. They need to grab another WR

I think they need another TE with only two on the roster.

Stanley's spot is not a lock but will be if they dont grab another NT.

for the most part i think it's time to churn the bottom of the roster. normally on a team that's pretty solid across the front lines anyway (now) it's harder to make the team. the "10" guess is what, 17% of the team gets replaced?

would be interesting to see if we churn that much.

7 is my guess. but the real question is what players go to make up those spots?

rivera - likely gone.
who else is a "goner" these days?

 

[WoodysGirl]

for the most part i think it's time to churn the bottom of the roster. normally on a team that's pretty solid across the front lines anyway (now) it's harder to make the team. the "10" guess is what, 17% of the team gets replaced?

would be interesting to see if we churn that much.

7 is my guess. but the real question is what players go to make up those spots?

rivera - likely gone.
who else is a "goner" these days?

I think a couple of those backup OL like Berger and Bowen could be goners, too or at least stashed on the practice squad. I think Proctor will be given every chance to be the backup center/guard unless they draft one in the later rounds, which is not unlikely.

McQuistan *seems* to be a lock because of the lack of backup tackles on the roster. But as with Petitti last year, when you scraping the bottom of the roster, no spot is safe. If they bring in a higher round OT, that'll be an interesting camp battle.

 

[peplaw06]

rivera - likely gone.
who else is a "goner" these days?

Well depending on who we draft, I don't see Tyson Thompson or Keith Davis sticking around too much longer. I hope we don't have to lose Austin or Hurd, but if we draft a WR on the first day, that's 6 counting those two and Crayton. I guess it remains to be seen what Wade will do there.

 

[sago1]

I agree taking a CB makes either Reeves or Nate Jones expandable.
Fowler moving on opens a LB spot; same goes w/not re-singing Singleton.
We've got 4 DEs now (Spears/Canty/Ratliff/Hatcher) so who do we cut if we draft a DE
Backup to Ferguson is priority; must also be able replace Fergy in 2 years.
Hamlin/Watkins fight for FS job, but is there still need there?
Analysis: We need a CB, NT, 2 LBs & maybe a FS. So we've got 4-5 needs on defense.

Signing Davis offsets Riveria retiring/being cut.
Backup center slot available with Johnson gone.
Tyler Thompson in 3rd year; better show more then straight ahead speed.
Would like to see us grab a top WR who clearly a #1 player, but doubt we'll cut any of our current WRs; TO/Glenn/Crayton/Austin/Hurd.
We actually have 3 TEs so doubt we go that way.
Analysis: We should add another OT who can challenge McQuistan for Adams job and even Colombo's in 08. Also need an OC unless one of our OG's has center experience. I figure we should draft 3 offensive players; if we add a RB then Thompson is gone this year & if we draft a FB Hoyte might be moved back to LB. That would take us up to 5 offensive players we could use.

If we can add 9-10 quality players, we'll find a way. Realistically, maybe 5-6 from the draft make the team & a few draft guys go on PS. Ireland did good job bringing in some good young undrafted players but we don't know how good/interesting new coaching staff is in singing such players. If we could sign a player (like Zak deOssie whose also a L/S), we could cut Ladoceuver and use his spot elsewhere as needed.

 

[Mavs Man]

From this list (50 out of 53 man roster) I can count potentially 18 or 19 spots. Not all of those will be lost to rookies, UDFA, or FA but I wouldn't consider them locks.

QB:
Tony Romo
Brad Johnson
Matt Baker?

RB:
Julius Jones
Marion Barber III
Tyson Thompson

TE:
Jason Witten
Anthony Fasano
Tony Curtis?

OL:
Leonard Davis
Kyle Kosier
Flozel Adams
Marc Columbo
Andre Gurode
Pat McQuistan
Marco Rivera (retires?)
Cory Procter
Joe Berger

WR:
Terrell Owens
Terry Glenn
Patrick Crayton (still unsigned)
Sam Hurd
Miles Austin

DL:
Chris Canty
Marcus Spears
Jason Ferguson
Jason Hatcher
Jeremiah Ratliff
Stephen Bowen
Montavious Stanley

LB:
DeMarcus Ware
Bobby Carpenter
Akin Ayodele
Greg Ellis
Bradie James
Kevin Burnett
Oliver Hoyte

DB:
Terence Newman
Anthony Henry
Nate Jones
Jacques Reeves
Aaron Glenn
Joey Thomas
Quincy Butler
Roy Williams
Ken Hamlin
Keith Davis
Pat Watkins


K/P:
Martin Gramatica
Matt McBriar

 

[WoodysGirl]

Sago1 - It's Tyson Thompson, not Tyler.

And who's the 3rd TE? If you mean Tony Curtis, I don't know that he makes the final 53. He'll be in NFLE, so he may or may not shine. But I have a fear of him having dead legs come TC.

Austin and Hurd aren't locks, IMO. These guys have potential, but when you're on the back end of a rotation like they are, they can be beat out.

No need to cut Ladoucer, either. He's a guy that's on the roster cheap. And if a guy like DeOssie is brought in, he needs to be able to compete for a position, and then handle double-duty as a backup L/S.

 

[iceberg]

Sago1 - It's Tyson Thompson, not Tyler.

And who's the 3rd TE? If you mean Tony Curtis, I don't know that he makes the final 53. He'll be in NFLE, so he may or may not shine. But I have a fear of him having dead legs come TC.

Austin and Hurd aren't locks, IMO. These guys have potential, but when you're on the back end of a rotation like they are, they can be beat out.

No need to cut Ladoucer, either. He's a guy that's on the roster cheap. And if a guy like DeOssie is brought in, he needs to be able to compete for a position, and then handle double-duty as a backup L/S.

something else to consider, wg - phillips. how much of an immediate stamp does he want to put onto this team? what message does he want to send? if we draft a safety this could be one "bullet" davis can't get away from w/hamlin now here and watkins 6'5"ing it around.

10 may not be out of reach, but it would sure be a lot of changes most likely around the bottom part of the roster.

 

[mmillman]

4 to 5. The team is talented and Dallas drafts late every round.

 

[firehawk350]

From this list (50 out of 53 man roster) I can count potentially 18 or 19 spots. Not all of those will be lost to rookies, UDFA, or FA but I wouldn't consider them locks.

QB:
Tony Romo
Brad Johnson
Matt Baker?

RB:
Julius Jones
Marion Barber III
Tyson Thompson

TE:
Jason Witten
Anthony Fasano
Tony Curtis?

OL:
Leonard Davis
Kyle Kosier
Flozel Adams
Marc Columbo
Andre Gurode
Pat McQuistan
Marco Rivera (retires?)
Cory Procter
Joe Berger

WR:
Terrell Owens
Terry Glenn
Patrick Crayton (still unsigned)
Sam Hurd
Miles Austin

DL:
Chris Canty
Marcus Spears
Jason Ferguson
Jason Hatcher
Jeremiah Ratliff
Stephen Bowen
Montavious Stanley

LB:
DeMarcus Ware
Bobby Carpenter
Akin Ayodele
Greg Ellis
Bradie James
Kevin Burnett
Oliver Hoyte

DB:
Terence Newman
Anthony Henry
Nate Jones
Jacques Reeves
Aaron Glenn
Joey Thomas
Quincy Butler
Roy Williams
Ken Hamlin
Keith Davis
Pat Watkins


K/P:
Martin Gramatica
Matt McBriar

Thanks for the break-down, it helps a lot... I could see a QB (3rd string), TE, 2nd string FB, a replacement for Flo (start in a year or two), WR (picked in first or second round) sitting somewhere mid-depth chart (#3 or 4???), LB (in a 3-4 system, you can never have enough and Ellis is getting old and insurance doesn't hurt), DB (project player with upside that dwells on the bottom of the depth chart while you see if he's worth #2-3) and kicker (Gramatica is REALLY old [i know, he's a kicker, but still]) and what would it hurt to spend a 6th or 7th on a top tier kicker?

So best case here, I see 7 players. Realistically, probably one or two turns out to be mostly hype and gets sent to the practice squad. Call it 5-6.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

From this list (50 out of 53 man roster) I can count potentially 18 or 19 spots. Not all of those will be lost to rookies, UDFA, or FA but I wouldn't consider them locks.

QB:
Tony Romo
Brad Johnson
Matt Baker?

RB:
Julius Jones
Marion Barber III
Tyson Thompson

TE:
Jason Witten
Anthony Fasano
Tony Curtis?

OL:
Leonard Davis
Kyle Kosier
Flozel Adams
Marc Columbo
Andre Gurode
Pat McQuistan
Marco Rivera (retires?)
Cory Procter
Joe Berger

WR:
Terrell Owens
Terry Glenn
Patrick Crayton (still unsigned)
Sam Hurd
Miles Austin

DL:
Chris Canty
Marcus Spears
Jason Ferguson
Jason Hatcher
Jeremiah Ratliff
Stephen Bowen
Montavious Stanley

LB:
DeMarcus Ware
Bobby Carpenter
Akin Ayodele
Greg Ellis
Bradie James
Kevin Burnett
Oliver Hoyte

DB:
Terence Newman
Anthony Henry
Nate Jones
Jacques Reeves
Aaron Glenn
Joey Thomas
Quincy Butler
Roy Williams
Ken Hamlin
Keith Davis
Pat Watkins


K/P:
Martin Gramatica
Matt McBriar

I only see 50 players listed here.

 

[Chuck 54]

I'm guessing at least 8 rookies make the team....remember, there are a lot of guys on this team who aren't starters and aren't going to be who will be in for a bigger payday soon. Best to bring in rookies capable of being backups and cut the vets.

I think you'll see some of the vets in the secondary and at WR cut for rookie replacements, and I don't think we'll carry as many DLmen as in the past either.

 

[iceberg]

I only see 50 players listed here.

could be why his 1st sentence says it's 50 of 53 players on the roster...