How many teams would trade their starter for Vick?

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Philly: no
Dallas: hell yes
Giants: yes
Skins: yes

Packers: yes (but not when Favre was at his peak)
Lions: yes
Vikings: no
Bears: yes

Buccaneers: yes
Saints: yes
Panthers: close call (Vick has more overall talent than Delhomme, but he is a Supe QB)

Niners: yes
Cards: yes
Seahawks: yes (though I like Hasselback's game/ability)
Rams: yes

Patriots: no
Jets: yes
Bills: yes
Dolphins: yes

Steelers: probably no
Browns: yes
Bengals: close call
Ravens: yes

Colts: hell no
Titans: yes (McNair is running on fumes)
Texans: yes (Vick has shown more than Carr)
Jags: close call

Raiders: yes
Broncos: yes
Chiefs: yes
Chargers: a lot of potential already on the roster, but probably yes
 

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Vick sucks. He wouldn't know a forward pass if it hit him in the head.

This list stinks of a Vick homer. Dismissed.
 

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My gosh, bbgun..I got up too late to catch Vick's sets this morning.

But this post has to mean he LITERALLY walked on water, in preseason Tokyo.. right?:)

Before you take the thrashing you deserve :) and are most certainly gonna get, let me duck.

Real low.
 

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Knowing his preference for older, experienced players, Parcells would probably coax Warren Moon out of retirement before trying to add Vick to the roster.
 

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Besides, we already have Julius Jones, why do we need Vick?
 

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Vick is better than Bledsoe. But I don't think Parcells would trust him. He'd give Bill a heart attack.
 

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How is Vick better than Bledsoe? I'm being serious here, I'd like to know why you think that? Nobody scrambles like Vick, but he has ALOT of work to do to be a real quarterback.
 

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I woudn't trade Julius for Vick either. We don't need another rb.
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
My gosh, bbgun..I got up too late to catch Vick's sets this morning.

But this post has to mean he LITERALLY walked on water, in preseason Tokyo.. right?:)

Before you take the thrashing you deserve :) and are most certainly gonna get, let me duck.

Real low.

Why a thrashing? And why do you think I idolize Vick? I don't. I just thought this was an interesting question. I could have made Bledsoe the subject of the question, but then I would have written "no" by most of the team names. What fun is that?
 

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jobberone said:
Vick is better than Bledsoe. But I don't think Parcells would trust him. He'd give Bill a heart attack.
Not in a 100 yrs is Vick better than Drew. Atlanta's back up Schuabb looked better than Vick and don't say its because he played against colts second team because the colts left their starting D in the entire first half and he looked VG against them I'd rather have him than Vick if I where the coach...
 

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Why a thrashing? And why do you think I idolize Vick? I don't. I just thought this was an interesting question. I could have made Bledsoe the subject of the question, but then I would have written "no" by most of the team names. What fun is that?

Dude, don't even try that. Look how many yes you have on that list. The only pocket passers you wouldnt trade for Vick are Peyton and Brady? And you're not a Vick homer? Puhlease. Brees for Vick?! Delhomme? Even Bledsoe is a better passer.
 

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I believe Vick is one of the most overrated players in NFL history. With that being said though you sure can't argue with his results in his brief NFL career. The first QB to lead his team into Lambeau Field and come away with a playoff victory. Look at Atlanta when he was lost for the season 2 years ago and look at them last year when they had him for the whole season.

The thing with Vick is he is a superb NFL athlete, but an average QB at best. He is just a suped up version of Kordell Stewart and when his legs go then his career will go as well.

Sure there are a handful of teams out there that would certainly trade their starter for Vick, but I don't believe that list is anywhere near what you seem to think it is bbgun.

Philly - No
Dallas - Maybe (although I really wouldn't want him, personal preference)
Giants - No
Skins - No

Packers: They just drafted a 1st round QB, probably not
Lions: Yes
Vikings: No
Bears: Yes

Buccaneers: Yes
Saints: No
Panthers: No

Niners: No
Cards: Yes
Seahawks: No
Rams: No

Patriots: No
Jets: Maybe
Bills: Maybe
Dolphins: Yes

Steelers: No
Browns: Yes
Bengals: No
Ravens: Yes

Colts: No
Titans: Maybe
Texans: Maybe
Jags: No

Raiders: Maybe
Broncos: Maybe
Chiefs: No
Chargers: No

I say no on alot of teams because they either just recently drafted 1st round QBs and have yet to fully evaluate them. The teams that are either a resounding yes or maybe are only because they really don't have a quality starter or where Vick would be an upgrade over what they have. Although offensive philosophy would dictate whether they truely would or not. Take Oakland for example, even though I gave them a maybe I don't think they would simply because Collins has a stronger arm than Vick and has a better deep ball. I would much rather have a QB like Carson Palmer of the Bengals, I think he is on the cusp of becoming a really great NFL QB.
 

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bbgun said:
Why a thrashing? And why do you think I idolize Vick? I don't. I just thought this was an interesting question. I could have made Bledsoe the subject of the question, but then I would have written "no" by most of the team names. What fun is that?
I DO 'idolize" Mike.

And I wouldn't have listed him on half the teams you did.

To each his/her own. But you have to take into consideration the style of offense teams play, who the HCs and OCs are, and what weapons are on board to attempt such an analyis.

Bengals close call? Jints? Jets?

Do you think Martz is looking for a Vick? Vermeil?
 

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Kilyin said:
Dude, don't even try that. Look how many yes you have on that list. The only pocket passers you wouldnt trade for Vick are Peyton and Brady? And you're not a Vick homer? Puhlease. Brees for Vick?! Delhomme? Even Bledsoe is a better passer.

You are absolutely insane if you don't think all 32 GM's would take Vick over Bledsoe right now. In-sane.
 

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I wouldn't trade for Vick until he decides to play QB.....oh wait....he supposedly is right? No thanks.
 

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Kilyin said:
How is Vick better than Bledsoe? I'm being serious here, I'd like to know why you think that? Nobody scrambles like Vick, but he has ALOT of work to do to be a real quarterback.

He's a much better playmaker. Here's his stats:

They don't come out well so here's the link: http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235253

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He's not the pocket passer Bledsoe is but they have comparable stats passing wise and Vick rushes for 8-900 yds a season when healthy. He also wins games virtually single handedly.

I doubt many GMs or HCs would not make a trade heads up Bledsoe for Vick. You may not agree but I think that's an accurate statement.

But I don't think Vick is Bill's type of QB. Bill likes safety and winning the old fashion way. Vick would drive him nuts and I suspect he'd take away Vick's strengths.
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
I DO 'idolize" Mike.

And I wouldn't have listed him on half the teams you did.

To each his/her own. But you have to take into consideration the style of offense teams play, who the HCs and OCs are, and what weapons are on board to attempt such an analyis.

Bengals close call? Jints? Jets?

Do you think Martz is looking for a Vick? Vermeil?



i have to agree with LTN here, alot of teams wouldnt need vick on there team right now, i think the best place for Vick is in ATL. the WCO made Young into a SB QB, and it will make Vick into one in ATL.

Besdies all the posters here who think he is an overrated(not that thats his fault as he does nothing but lead his team to victory) and cant throw for anything (even though this guy has a rocket arm and has amazing velocity on his passes) but yea the season will be having alot of Vick haters eating crow, and i will set back and smile.
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
I DO 'idolize" Mike.

And I wouldn't have listed him on half the teams you did.

To each his/her own. But you have to take into consideration the style of offense teams play, who the HCs and OCs are, and what weapons are on board to attempt such an analyis.

Bengals close call? Jints? Jets?

Do you think Martz is looking for a Vick? Vermeil?

Palmer is demonstrably better than Vick? Bullsh*t. Eli over Vick? Based on what? What has Eli done?? Pennington with the bad shoulder? And what would Vick do with Palmer's WR corps? Probably a lot.
 

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You are absolutely insane if you don't think all 32 GM's would take Vick over Bledsoe right now. In-sane.

Uh, no I think it is you who is insane, or just blinded by your glaring man-love for Vick.

Vick and his team got to the playoffs and won a game against a team that probably shouldn't have been there. So what? Bledsoe has been to the Superbowl, and the playoffs. Most teams aren't looking for a barely 6' tall, one read, scramble first Quarterback. Even Atlanta doesn't want one, why do you think there's been so much emphasis on Vick actually learning to throw the ball this offseason?
 
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