How much of the noise was the crowd vs the stadium?

[vlad]

Just curious what people thoughts are.

I.e. if our crowd was transplanted to that stadium, would it be just as loud? If their crowd was put in ours, would they sound different?

I just can't recall home field advantage being so pronounced....

 

[NextGenBoys]

I was there, and let me say that it was very, very, very loud.

I cant imagine playing football and communicating in those conditions.

 

[vlad]

Yeah NextGen...I was absolutely stunned. Maybe they had better mics there, but New Orleans didn't seem crazy to me, this place...wow.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Falling behind, in that stadium, against that defense is why we looked like we did, and why they won 9 games there this season.

If we could have scored early and got ahead, it may have ended totally different. Like we did in N.O.

Romo said he couldn't audible the play, he couldn't alter the snap count, our own lineman had to wait for the ball to move because they couldn't hear.

That gave their defense a HUGE advantage. There were times they got off the ball quicker than our OL did.

I would have loved to play them in Dallas. Away from that dome, they were very beatable.

 

[texastwister]

I was there also. It is hard to describe but let me say this.
The Metrodome and Viking fans are the most underrated 12th man. They serve to much beer and they do a great job upstairs of getting the natives restless. During commerical/tv timeouts they get they crowd going and when they get ready to blow the whistle to start play they are cranked up full throttle.
I had my cell phone in my shirt pocket on viberate and ring and couldnt hear or feel it.

I was on the forty six yd line 6 rows and and I couldnt hear Romo calling audibles but I could hear Farve like he was next to me.

You can tell watching the game on Dvr when Columbo got beat by Edwards it was bad live but worse on tv that Edwards could see the ball move and Columbo couldnt hear snap count and Edwards is turning the corner before #75 moves a foot

 

[THUMPER]

Falling behind, in that stadium, against that defense is why we looked like we did, and why they won 9 games there this season.

If we could have scored early and got ahead, it may have ended totally different. Like we did in N.O.

Romo said he couldn't audible the play, he couldn't alter the snap count, our own lineman had to wait for the ball to move because they couldn't hear.

That gave their defense a HUGE advantage. There were times they got off the ball quicker than our OL did.

I would have loved to play them in Dallas. Away from that dome, they were very beatable.

Aaron Rodgers said the same thing about playing there, that it really limited what they could do on offense and gave a huge advantage to the Vikings' defense. So it wasn't just Romo or the Cowboys who struggled there.

I believe that if we would have played them in our house we win that game. BTW, that's why games in Sep-Nov are important folks.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

BTW, that's why games in Sep-Nov are important folks.

Yet so many posters here say winning in those months doesn't matter. Unbelievable how they just don't get it.

 

[xWraithx]

Yet so many posters here say winning in those months doesn't matter. Unbelievable how they just don't get it.

I agree.

Winning always matters

win one of those games we idiotically beat ourselves in earlier in the year, and we're playing Minny in Dallas and most likely the Saints this weekend.

 

[Doomsday]

I agree.

Winning always matters

win one of those games we idiotically beat ourselves in earlier in the year, and we're playing Minny in Dallas and most likely the Saints this weekend.

Losing 3 games to inferior opponents like the Giants and Broncos was the difference in Dallas' season. Win just one of those games and Minn has to beat us in Dallas.

What is interesting though, is why doesnt Dallas have that type of advantage at home? We had over 20,000 more people in a dome for the Giants game and we didnt see that type of defensive advantage.

 

[Doomsday101]

Losing 3 games to inferior opponents like the Giants and Broncos was the difference in Dallas' season. Win just one of those games and Minn has to beat us in Dallas.

What is interesting though, is why doesnt Dallas have that type of advantage at home? We had over 20,000 more people in a dome for the Giants game and we didnt see that type of defensive advantage.

Fans need to stop treating it as some sunday gathering and let loose with the noise. At times the crowds in Dallas can be loud but often it seems like a hit or miss. I think Vikes and Saints fans feel they can impact the game and help carry their team Dallas fans sit there and expect the team to prove itself before they get crazy.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Aaron Rodgers said the same thing about playing there, that it really limited what they could do on offense and gave a huge advantage to the Vikings' defense. So it wasn't just Romo or the Cowboys who struggled there.

I believe that if we would have played them in our house we win that game. BTW, that's why games in Sep-Nov are important folks.

Or if we had just gotten the lead.

We took the crowd out of the game in N.O. for 3 quarters because we had the lead.

That's what we needed to do in Minn., .. we didn't do it, .. and we saw the consequences.

With that in mind, I would have gone for the 4th and one early on.

As a matter of fact, with that in mind, and with my feelings being so strong that we needed to get a lead, I would have told my team that if we cross midfield with the first possession, we are either going for it on 4th down or we are going to fake the punt on 4th down, depending on how far we penetrated past the 50 yd line. My team would have known that before we left Dallas.

I feel it was that important to try to take the crowd out of it.

Remember Saban faking the punt on the first possession of the National Championship game, ... I didn't agree with doing it with so far to go and that deep in his own territory, but I loved the attitude of the call to do it.

He did not come there to perform the status quo, .. he came to kick some teeth out and win a National title.
How did that work out?

 

[Doomsday101]

Or if we had just gotten the lead.

We took the crowd out of the game in N.O. for 3 quarters because we had the lead.

That's what we needed to do in Minn., .. we didn't do it, .. and we saw the consequences.

With that in mind, I would have gone for the 4th and one early on.

As a matter of fact, with that in mind, and with my feelings being so strong that we needed to get a lead, I would have told my team that if we cross midfield with the first possession, we are either going for it on 4th down or we are going to fake the punt on 4th down, depending on how far we penetrated past the 50 yd line. My team would have known that before we left Dallas.

I feel it was that important to try to take the crowd out of it.

Remember Saban faking the punt on the first possession of the National Championship game, ... I didn't agree with doing it with so far to go and that deep in his own territory, but I loved the attitude of the call to do it.

He did not come there to perform the status quo, .. he came to kick some teeth out and win a National title.
How did that work out?

Worked allot better when Colt missed every play other than the 1st series.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Worked allot better when Colt missed every play other than the 1st series.

Maybe the "kick some teeth out" attitude is what got him hurt.

I was rooting for Texas, (my wife loves Colt) but when your defense knocks the opponents QB out of the game with a monster hit, that team can not complain about losing their QB.

 

[Doomsday101]

Maybe the "kick some teeth out" attitude is what got him hurt.

I was rooting for Texas, (my wife loves Colt) but when your defense knocks the opponents QB out of the game with a monster hit, that team can not complain about losing their QB.

No a freak hit is what got him hurt. Colt had taken much bigger hits than the one he took in that game. It was a freak shot. Not complaining things like that happen but it was not some big monster shot on Colt. Bama did a good job yet still was on the verge of blowing it to a freshman QB. Saban faking the punt was stupid there was nothing smart about it.

Dallas going for it on 4th and 1 hey I could live with that but doing stupid things will normally get you beat. I think telling a team hey once we are past the 50 we will be going for it is foolish.

If you can pin a team back by their goal line as the Vikes did to us a couple of times that can really limit what the offense can do as they are trying to gain breathing room away from their own endzone.

Nothing wrong with being aggressive but there is a fine line between being aggressive and doing stupid things that cost your team

 

[WV Cowboy]

No a freak hit is what got him hurt. Colt had taken much bigger hits than the one he took in that game. It was a freak shot. Not complaining things like that happen but it was not some big monster shot on Colt. Bama did a good job yet still was on the verge of blowing it to a freshman QB. Saban faking the punt was stupid there was nothing smart about it.

Dallas going for it on 4th and 1 hey I could live with that but doing stupid things will normally get you beat. I think telling a team hey once we are past the 50 we will be going for it is foolish.

If you can pin a team back by their goal line as the Vikes did to us a couple of times that can really limit what the offense can do as they are trying to gain breathing room away from their own endzone.

Nothing wrong with being aggressive but there is a fine line between being aggressive and doing stupid things that cost your team

My point had nothing to do with Colt, my point was the attitude that Saban brought into that game.

If you read my post I said I did not agree with going for it that deep in your own territory, and certainly not when you need 20+ yards.

I just loved the bravado attitude.

From all of my coaching experience, I would rather make a mistake while bringing an aggressive attitude than making a mistake by mamby-pamby kicking with less than a yard on a possession where we had gone for 8 yds, 9, 11, 4, and 8.

 

[Doomsday101]

My point had nothing to do with Colt, my point was the attitude that Saban brought into that game.

If you read my post I said I did not agree with going for it that deep in your own territory, and certainly not when you need 20+ yards.

I just loved the bravado attitude.

From all of my coaching experience, I would rather make a mistake while bringing an aggressive attitude than making a mistake by mamby-pamby kicking with less than a yard on a possession where we had gone for 8 yds, 9, 11, 4, and 8.

I have nothing aginst being aggressive but over doing it to the point where you hurt the team more than help it is foolish. If I'm outside of FG range on 4th down then I want to pin the other team by their goal line and allow my defense to make the big play than to risk a 4th down and end up giving the ball up with great field position.

I think there are times to be aggressive and times you are better served by being smart and putting the pressure on the other team to overcome poor field position.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

So now some Cowboys fans are saying we would have won the game if it was at Cowboys Stadium?

Interesting.

The Crowd noise was a factor, it would be foolish to make the claim that it wasn't.

However, the biggest reason we lost is because no Offensive adjustments were made and the Vikings Defensive Line wanted to play in New Orleans a lot more then the Cowboys Offensive Line.

 

[Doomsday101]

So now some Cowboys fans are saying we would have won the game if it was at Cowboys Stadium?

Interesting.

The Crowd noise was a factor, it would be foolish to make the claim that it wasn't.

However, the biggest reason we lost is because no Offensive adjustments were made and the Vikings Defensive Line wanted to play in New Orleans a lot more then the Cowboys Offensive Line.

I don't know if we would have or not I do know that when facing a loud stadium team are unable to change up the snap count or check out of plays as easily and that can have a big impact. I know home games does not ensure anything but most would rather play at home than on the road thus the NFL gives the teams with the best record with something they call Home field advanatge.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I don't know if we would have or not I do know that when facing a loud stadium team are unable to change up the snap count or check out of plays as easily and that can have a big impact. I know home games does not ensure anything but most would rather play at home than on the road thus the NFL gives the teams with the best record with something they call Home field advanatge.

Home Field advantage matters to a certain degree but I don't think a case can be made that the Cowboys lost to the Vikings because of the crowd.

There is too much evidence that supports that the Vikings (in particular the Defensive Line) simply were better prepared, wanted it more and were just plain better.

 

[Doomsday101]

Home Field advantage matters to a certain degree but I don't think a case can be made that the Cowboys lost to the Vikings because of the crowd.

There is too much evidence that supports that the Vikings (in particular the Defensive Line) simply were better prepared, wanted it more and were just plain better.

I agree to a certain point. I think had we started off better we would have had a better chance because when you can change up the count it helps to slow down the rush when you can check out of plays based on what you are seeing you take yourself out of a bad play into a better play. Vikes did not allow that to happen and we got out butts kicked. I have made no excuses for this loss but of course it helps your odds a bit more when you are home vs on the road in front of a loud crowd.