How the Rams got 270 yards

[atlantacowboy]

I was listening to some radio show on the way home tonight and , apparently, there is a darn good reason the Rams ran the ball so effectively and seemed to have the perfect blocking scheme every snap.

The smart coach (not Garret) picked up on something studying film. Apparently, our DTs have "tells" that give away what they are about to do. I wish I was kidding.

“They have good players, but ... we had a lot of tips and tells on what they were going to do in front of us,” Rams center John Sullivan said.

What were the Cowboys linemen doing? Sullivan and right guard Austin Blythe told The Ringer that depending on how defensive tackles Maliek Collins and Antwaun Woods were set up before a snap, the Rams knew if a stunt was coming. For instance, if “Collins was shaded closer to the tackle instead of the guard, the Rams figured a stunt may be coming,” Danny Heifetz wrote.


“If the Rams saw Collins lined up slightly wider than usual, they looked for a second tell. If a certain Cowboys lineman had a specific hand on the ground—right or left—or if a player was tilted one way or the other, it confirmed what the Cowboys defensive line was going to do.”

“If [the defensive tackle] is going to come in, the tell is going to come in from the other side,” said Blythe, who figured the Rams had a tell on more than 90 percent of the snaps in their 30-22 win Saturday night.

We gave away 90% of the snaps!!!!!

 

[nightrain]

I was listening to some radio show on the way home tonight and , apparently, there is a darn good reason the Rams ran the ball so effectively and seemed to have the perfect blocking scheme every snap.

The smart coach (not Garret) picked up on something studying film. Apparently, our DTs have "tells" that give away what they are about to do. I wish I was kidding.

“They have good players, but ... we had a lot of tips and tells on what they were going to do in front of us,” Rams center John Sullivan said.

What were the Cowboys linemen doing? Sullivan and right guard Austin Blythe told The Ringer that depending on how defensive tackles Maliek Collins and Antwaun Woods were set up before a snap, the Rams knew if a stunt was coming. For instance, if “Collins was shaded closer to the tackle instead of the guard, the Rams figured a stunt may be coming,” Danny Heifetz wrote.


“If the Rams saw Collins lined up slightly wider than usual, they looked for a second tell. If a certain Cowboys lineman had a specific hand on the ground—right or left—or if a player was tilted one way or the other, it confirmed what the Cowboys defensive line was going to do.”

“If [the defensive tackle] is going to come in, the tell is going to come in from the other side,” said Blythe, who figured the Rams had a tell on more than 90 percent of the snaps in their 30-22 win Saturday night.

Yea, saw that yesterday. Bad technique, lack of self scouting.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Yea, saw that yesterday. Bad technique, lack of self scouting.

We are literally the poker guy who sweats profusely when bluffing.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

I was listening to some radio show on the way home tonight and , apparently, there is a darn good reason the Rams ran the ball so effectively and seemed to have the perfect blocking scheme every snap.

The smart coach (not Garret) picked up on something studying film. Apparently, our DTs have "tells" that give away what they are about to do. I wish I was kidding.

“They have good players, but ... we had a lot of tips and tells on what they were going to do in front of us,” Rams center John Sullivan said.

What were the Cowboys linemen doing? Sullivan and right guard Austin Blythe told The Ringer that depending on how defensive tackles Maliek Collins and Antwaun Woods were set up before a snap, the Rams knew if a stunt was coming. For instance, if “Collins was shaded closer to the tackle instead of the guard, the Rams figured a stunt may be coming,” Danny Heifetz wrote.


“If the Rams saw Collins lined up slightly wider than usual, they looked for a second tell. If a certain Cowboys lineman had a specific hand on the ground—right or left—or if a player was tilted one way or the other, it confirmed what the Cowboys defensive line was going to do.”

“If [the defensive tackle] is going to come in, the tell is going to come in from the other side,” said Blythe, who figured the Rams had a tell on more than 90 percent of the snaps in their 30-22 win Saturday night.

We gave away 90% of the snaps!!!!!

This cannot be right, coaching doesnt matter.

We need that Garrett extension !

 

[atlantacowboy]

This cannot be right, coaching doesnt matter.

We need that Garrett extension !

I don't know how you keep Marinelli now. That should never happen in pro football. We are literally the dumbest team in the league. Our own coaching staff didn't notice these things?

 

[Sydla]

I was listening to some radio show on the way home tonight and , apparently, there is a darn good reason the Rams ran the ball so effectively and seemed to have the perfect blocking scheme every snap.

The smart coach (not Garret) picked up on something studying film. Apparently, our DTs have "tells" that give away what they are about to do. I wish I was kidding.

“They have good players, but ... we had a lot of tips and tells on what they were going to do in front of us,” Rams center John Sullivan said.

What were the Cowboys linemen doing? Sullivan and right guard Austin Blythe told The Ringer that depending on how defensive tackles Maliek Collins and Antwaun Woods were set up before a snap, the Rams knew if a stunt was coming. For instance, if “Collins was shaded closer to the tackle instead of the guard, the Rams figured a stunt may be coming,” Danny Heifetz wrote.


“If the Rams saw Collins lined up slightly wider than usual, they looked for a second tell. If a certain Cowboys lineman had a specific hand on the ground—right or left—or if a player was tilted one way or the other, it confirmed what the Cowboys defensive line was going to do.”

“If [the defensive tackle] is going to come in, the tell is going to come in from the other side,” said Blythe, who figured the Rams had a tell on more than 90 percent of the snaps in their 30-22 win Saturday night.

We gave away 90% of the snaps!!!!!

CBS also had a story that said McVay used motion and formations to confuse LVE and Smith and get them out of position at the snap.

 

[acr731]

Does anyone think Garrett is smart enough to notice things like that?

Me neither.

 

[atlantacowboy]

CBS also had a story that said McVay used motion and formations to confuse LVE and Smith and get them out of position at the snap.

Between that and knowing what the DL was doing on 90% of the snaps explains a lot.

 

[nightrain]

We are literally the poker guy who sweats profusely when bluffing.

 

[atlantacowboy]

I love rounders.

 

[sureletsrace]

Not a good look for our players or coaches. Yikes.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Does anyone think Garrett is smart enough to notice things like that?

Me neither.

I expect nothing from Garret. But the DL is Marinelli's bread and butter. How does he not notice that his guys have tells? I can't beleive this is not more of a topic of discussion. It cuts to the core of the teams coaching problems. We just aren't very smart.

 

[JayFord]

They took our d line and threw them out of the way sumo style

It was like watch e Honda fight dan

 

[atlantacowboy]

They took our d line and threw them out of the way sumo style

It was like watch e Honda fight dan

That is not what happened. Read the first post.

 

[Philmonroe]

Yea, saw that yesterday. Bad technique, lack of self scouting.

This but I'm really starting to think a lot of fans just watch the game and think teams just play freestyle like this is LA fitness or something. Hell the Rams have tells too esp after that Bears game and you can go on YouTube to find them. This isn't new and if they play the Patriots I'm pretty sure to say it won't be the same stuff jumping off like our lack of D gameplan let slide.

 

[Philmonroe]

I expect nothing from Garret. But the DL is Marinelli's bread and butter. How does he not notice that his guys have tells? I can't beleive this is not more of a topic of discussion. It cuts to the core of the teams coaching problems. We just aren't very smart.

I think you just started understanding football. No offense

 

[DominantD]

I'm sure this was a valid consideration on the some of the plays. But even if they knew when we weren't going to stunt, or if they knew this was one on one blocking, we were blown off the ball. It was physical domination man vs. man. Rams looked like the Cowboys O-Line of early 90s when they simply owned the game. Stunts would have disrupted some of this. Blitzes certainly would have helped.

The bottom line to me... We were man vs. man whipped in the trenches. I don't recall seeing #94 anywhere near the QB's zip code... and I like Gregory's play this season a lot. But Saturday, he was man-handled... just like our interior DTs.

Again, I'm not discounting that coaching, alignment, etc. couldn't have changed anything. For me, I was thinking... we will get burned by this, but I would start using multiple blitzes and simply hope I was filling the right gaps for the run and hope I don't get burned deep... because I know my front 4 (or front 6) can't handle these matchups tonight.

 

[Asklesko]

What a disgrace.

 

[atlantacowboy]

I'm sure this was a valid consideration on the some of the plays. But even if they knew when we weren't going to stunt, or if they knew this was one on one blocking, we were blown off the ball. It was physical domination man vs. man. Rams looked like the Cowboys O-Line of early 90s when they simply owned the game. Stunts would have disrupted some of this. Blitzes certainly would have helped.

The bottom line to me... We were man vs. man whipped in the trenches. I don't recall seeing #94 anywhere near the QB's zip code... and I like Gregory's play this season a lot. But Saturday, he was man-handled... just like our interior DTs.

Again, I'm not discounting that coaching, alignment, etc. couldn't have changed anything. For me, I was thinking... we will get burned by this, but I would start using multiple blitzes and simply hope I was filling the right gaps for the run and hope I don't get burned deep... because I know my front 4 (or front 6) can't handle these matchups tonight.

You think a cowboy record 273 rushing yards given up was just the result of losing man vs man battles ? It is a HUGE advantage for the offense to know where the holes are going to be. Don't ya think? Don't take my word for it. Listen to what the rams are saying.

 

[conner01]

CBS also had a story that said McVay used motion and formations to confuse LVE and Smith and get them out of position at the snap.

You mean you can use motion?
If you look at Chiefs and rams they use a ton of motion
I love watching the chiefs offense
They run great screens and run screens to 3 players on one snap
We depend on our guys beating their guys
No reason to actually try to fool them