Hoyte, the slowest LB at the combine...

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Oliver Hoyte ran the slowest 40 time of the 50-plus LBs at the combine this year ...

In the 90s the Boys drafted 2 Butkus Award winners, mid to late rounds ... I can't remember names but each had 150 tackles a year etc. ... (1 guy was from U of Wisconsin I think ...) Both guys were pretty early cuts in training camp, and that's saying something, given that the clueless L. Lacewell and his geriatric crew were running the draft and we were suddenly looking for any talent anywhere ...

Here's fun story from scout.com about a guy who's similarly beaten the odds given his lack of NFL tangibles .... and kicked freaking ask last Sunday ... OUR HERO (I'm not kidding).. O. Hoyte !!! ..

"Oliver Hoyte is an old-school linebacker. Not too fast, not too flashy, not too big. But if you’re a running back squirting through the line of scrimmage, Hoyte is going to find you, wrap you up, and bring you down.

If that’s old school, well, Hoyte’s happy to be old school.

"Anyone that knows me knows how important football is to me," he said in a recent interview. "I have so much desire, so much hunger."

While top talents Mario Williams and Manny Lawson were attacking quarterbacks on the defensive line for N.C. State in 2005, Hoyte was there to punish the running backs. The three-year starter had 79 tackles as a senior for the Wolfpack after getting 93 as a junior. An unheralded member of the flashy Wolfpack defense, Hoyte was never recognized as an all-ACC player (first-, second- or third teams) despite his consistent production, mostly because he came off the field in passing situations for a talented defense.

"Go back and look at big plays per play," Hoyte suggested. "The number of plays you have vs. the big plays you make, the ratio - I was probably the best on the team. But I didn’t play every down, that’s why my numbers were probably down a little bit."

At 6-2½ and 245, with great instincts, he’s big enough and smart enough to play in the NFL – but his 5.01 time in the 40 is a major cause for concern. He was the slowest of the 37 linebackers at the combine.

"I know I didn’t run as well as I know I can, but eveything else was pretty good. I excelled in the football drills ... that’s what I am, I’m a football player."

Hoyte still enjoyed the experience of the combine, because it was a chance to impress coaches - if not with his blazing speed, with his passion for the game.

"I had a whole heap of meetings - I think I talked to every team," he said. "And any time I sit down to talk about football with a coach, Xs and Os, they walk away impressed. Because I’m a student of the game. I just wanted to show people I had nothing to hide, I was just a good football player. And I ‘m in the best shape of my life right now.

He was brought in for pre-draft meetings with New England and Cincinnati, as well as a trip to visit the Bucs in his hometown of Tampa (he went to high school with Florida State DT Brodrick Bunkley).

Hoyte will likely be a late second-day pick that’ll have to make his initial mark on the NFL on special teams – which wouldn’t be so bad.

"I love special teams," Hoyte said. "I played special teams especially much my freshman year, I was on every single one. One night, I think it was East Tennessee State, on the kickoff, I hit a guy so hard he went to the wrong sideline. And I said, OK, college is just like high school."

But the pros aren’t just like college - which is why Hoyte plans to work his way toward a dream.

"When I go into camp, I plan on making on making an impact on special teams AND defense," Hoyte said. "That’s how I’m looking at it. I’m going to continue working on my straight-line speed the rest of my career. Some people are born with it, some are not.

"But when I see the football, I’m going for it."
 

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Good thing he ran a 5.01. Otherwise he might not have made it to our roster.
 

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How many LBs at the combine?? I wrote this thread, seeing a post that Hoyte was slowest of 51 or so LBs there. In this story it's said that there were only 37 LBs at the combine. It would seem the bigger number is more accurate ... and makes Oliver even more of a longshot, our new folk hero !!

OT what happened to the Mavs in the second half tonite vs Spurs? I don't want to watch my TIVO ... can anybody enlighten so I don't suffer watching the end game ??? (let me guess .. Harris was abused by T. Parker ... (?) ...)
 

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igtmfo;1137191 said:
How many LBs at the combine?? I wrote this thread, seeing a post that Hoyte was slowest of 51 or so LBs there. In this story it's said that there were only 37 LBs at the combine. It would seem the bigger number is more accurate ... and makes Oliver even more of a longshot, our new folk hero !!

OT what happened to the Mavs in the second half tonite vs Spurs? I don't want to watch my TIVO ... can anybody enlighten so I don't suffer watching the end game ??? (let me guess .. Harris was abused by T. Parker ... (?) ...)
No, the Spurs just proved that last year was a fluke and that they are once again the best team in the West.

The biggest problem was that the Mavs went 6 minutes into the 4th quarter before scoring a point.
 

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igtmfo;1137181 said:
In the 90s the Boys drafted 2 Butkus Award winners, mid to late rounds ... I can't remember names but each had 150 tackles a year etc.

I think one of those guys was Derrick Brownlow, from Illinois. I may be mistaken, but I think he won the Butkus. I think he stuck on the roster 1 year and was pretty good on special teams. Too small and slow though, but great instincts. He might have been at Illinois when Simeon Rice and Kevin Hardy were there. I think they played in a 3-4 unless I'm mistaken.
 

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I sure am pulling for this guy, those blocks leading the way for JJ are impressive!
 

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n the 90s the Boys drafted 2 Butkus Award winners, mid to late rounds ... I can't remember names but each had 150 tackles a year etc. ... (1 guy was from U of Wisconsin I think ...) Both guys were pretty early cuts in training camp, and that's saying something, given that the clueless L. Lacewell and his geriatric crew were running the draft and we were suddenly looking for any talent anywhere ...


Here is a list of LBs we drafted in the 90s:
Year-round-player--------school
1990 - 11 - Dave Harper - Humboldt State
1991 -- 2 - Dixon Edwards - Michigan State
1991 -- 3 - Godfrey Miles - Florida
1991 -- 5 - Darrick Brownlow - Illinois
1992 -- 1 - Robert Jones - East Carolina
1993 -- 2 - Darrin Smith - Miami
1993 -- 6 - Barry Minter - Tulsa
1994 -- 4 - DeWayne Dotson - Mississippi
1995 -- 4 - Linc Harden - Oklahoma State
1995 -- 5 - Dana Howard - Illinois
1996 -- 2 - Randall Godfrey - Georgia
1996 -- 5 - Alan Campos - Louisville
1997 -- 3 - Dexter Coakley - Appalachian State
1998 -- 5 - Darren Hambrick - South Carolina
1999 -- 3 - Dat Nguyen - Texas A&M

Do you see your guys listed there?
 

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THUMPER;1137347 said:
Here is a list of LBs we drafted in the 90s:
Year-round-player--------school
1990 - 11 - Dave Harper - Humboldt State
1991 -- 2 - Dixon Edwards - Michigan State
1991 -- 3 - Godfrey Miles - Florida
1991 -- 5 - Darrick Brownlow - Illinois
1992 -- 1 - Robert Jones - East Carolina
1993 -- 2 - Darrin Smith - Miami
1993 -- 6 - Barry Minter - Tulsa
1994 -- 4 - DeWayne Dotson - Mississippi
1995 -- 4 - Linc Harden - Oklahoma State
1995 -- 5 - Dana Howard - Illinois
1996 -- 2 - Randall Godfrey - Georgia
1996 -- 5 - Alan Campos - Louisville
1997 -- 3 - Dexter Coakley - Appalachian State
1998 -- 5 - Darren Hambrick - South Carolina
1999 -- 3 - Dat Nguyen - Texas A&M

Do you see your guys listed there?

Here is a list of all the Butkus award winners:
2006- Trevor Scholl, The Ohio State University
2005- Paul Pozluzny, Penn State
2004 - Derrick Johnson, Texas
2003 - Teddy Lehman, Oklahoma
2002 - E.J. Henderson, Maryland
2001 - Rocky Calmus, Oklahoma
2000 - Dan Morgan, Miami
1999 - LaVar Arrington, Penn State
1998 - Chris Claiborne, USC
1997 - Andy Katzenmoyer, Ohio State
1996 - Matt Russell, Colorado
1995 - Kevin Hardy, Illinois
1994 - Dana Howard, Illinois
1993 - Trev Alberts, Nebraska
1992 - Marvin Jones, Florida State
1991 - Erick Anderson, Michigan
1990 - Alfred Williams, Colorado
1989 - Percy Snow, Michigan State
1988 - Derrick Thomas, Alabama
1987 - Paul McGowan, Florida State
1986 - Brian Bosworth, Oklahoma
1985 - Brian Bosworth, Oklahoma


Dat Nguyen was a runner up in 1998.
 

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The one thing about Hoyte was he had a 4.3 short shuttle, which is very good for LB's. That's basically a measurement of how quickly you can shift your speed and/or how fast you can get up to full speed. Many scouts are more interested in short shuttle times for LB's than they are 40 speed. And it makes sense, LB's are rarely going to be asked to run more than 10 yards full bore. But if 1 can run those 10 yards full bore faster than another LB, that's what's more important.


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Yakuza Rich;1137392 said:
The one thing about Hoyte was he had a 4.3 short shuttle, which is very good for LB's. That's basically a measurement of how quickly you can shift your speed and/or how fast you can get up to full speed. Many scouts are more interested in short shuttle times for LB's than they are 40 speed. And it makes sense, LB's are rarely going to be asked to run more than 10 yards full bore. But if 1 can run those 10 yards full bore faster than another LB, that's what's more important.


YAKUZA

40 times are pretty much useless for evaluating most positions. In fact only WRs and DBs should be measured by their 40 times IMO. 40s are important in evaluating RBs as well but should not be the primary measurement.
 

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Olver Hoyte doesn't hold the title alone. He was tied for the slowest time by another Cowboy signee, Kai Parham (sp?).
 

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Well... in his new job he doesnt need to worry about 40 times. I am glad he was slow and we able to get him.
 

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theogt;1137185 said:
Good thing he ran a 5.01. Otherwise he might not have made it to our roster.

Good point.

The kid has the size for a FB position. And it seems the demeaner.
 

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Oliver Hoyte ran the slowest 40 time of the 50-plus LBs at the combine this year
He was the slowest of the 37 linebackers at the combine.

There's a discrepancy here.
 
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