Hudson Houck?

[DallasEast]

No doubt Players hold a big portion of the blame, the team failed that includes Jerry, Wade, his staff and the players. There may be a lot less finger pointing if people can accept that fact.

Just for clarification. You are stating that everyone (from Jerry Jones on down) could be considered as having contributed A problem to the list of problems which the team endured this season; and that no one single player, coach and/or general manager can be considered as being THE problem in '08?

 

[Doomsday101]

Just for clarification. You are stating that everyone (from Jerry Jones on down) could be considered as having contributed A problem to the list of problems which the team endured this season; and that no one single player, coach and/or general manager can be considered as being THE problem in '08?

I consider anyone wearing the star, coaches, GM and Owner responsible for the team’s failure this season. Unlike some I'm not promoting the notion that we need to clean house only that we came in with high expectations and as a team we failed to reach those goals. Dallas has been humbled and I expect them to be more focused coming into next season unlike this year were players had visions of SB dancing in their heads they will enter this one trying to prove to everyone that they are a very good team. Attention this is only my opinion. :laugh2:

 

[DallasEast]

I consider anyone wearing the star, coaches, GM and Owner responsible for the team’s failure this season. Unlike some I'm not promoting the notion that we need to clean house only that we came in with high expectations and as a team we failed to reach those goals. Dallas has been humbled and I expect them to be more focused coming into next season unlike this year were players had visions of SB dancing in their heads they will enter this one trying to prove to everyone that they are a very good team. Attention this is only my opinion. :laugh2:

I can respect that and agree for the most part. It just that it seems lately that one cannot discuss A problem without it being misconstrued as being THE problem--which, of course, no one is claiming since the team actually experienced problems in '08.

 

[Doomsday101]

I can respect that and agree for the most part. It just that it seems lately that one cannot discuss A problem without it being misconstrued as being THE problem--which, of course, no one is claiming since the team actually experienced problems in '08.

And thus we have the finger pointing. It comes with it failure. For me it is overall team issue and they have their work cut out for them to redeem themselves. I think this team is very capable of turning this thing around and I expect nothing less for them. I don't share the ideal that this team will be 8-8 or worse next season I fully expect this team to prove they are a quality team in the NFL

 

[HanD]

Holland. Thanks. Honestly, I was confused by our line play this year. We looked like we got worse as the year went on, instead of better. Gurode looked confused at times. Flozell was clearly in pain for a time and that's part of why he got beat so often. The backup linemen didn't help. It sure seemed that we had more players confused by blitzes than I can remember seeing in a long time. There were way too many free shots at our QBs. Procter was overmatched. Holland helped, but then when he went out, it took forever for McQuistan to get a chance, and then he held his own against Philly. With that big a problem at LG, what took so long to try McQuistan out? I don't think he was ever rotated in for a series and I just didn't notice it, was he?

And has anything come to light on what adjustment Jim Johnson made in the Philly game that exposed our protection? (Or was it Baltimore?). I know it's been reported, but I didn't notice anything and I haven't heard what it is. Whatever it was, it's another symptom of our coaches not making in-game adjustments quickly.

I'm not one to pile on Wade or Garrett unnecessarily, but our offensive adjustments were the biggest problem I had with this coaching staff. We were slow to adjust and some of the adjustments we made were just bad. Fortunately, that's something that I would expect for an inexperienced coordinator, and one of the reasons I think we needed to support Garrett rather than replace him. I don't have an answer for why our experienced OL coach had the same issues, and I don't understand why nobody in the press or the organization is even looking into whether or not that position coach could be upgraded.

i agree. our coaching staff had problems making adjustments and trusting players. it was like when baber was hurt and felix on IR, they didn't even want to give choice a chance or a load of the carries until it was forced on them. procter isn't working? try someone else. they had issues wanting to trust inexperienced players. why play henry when he isn't effective, let the young kids play. pacman? no. scandrick and jenkins were doing well. same with bennett.

 

[DallasEast]

And thus we have the finger pointing. It comes with it failure. For me it is overall team issue and they have their work cut out for them to redeem themselves. I think this team is very capable of turning this thing around and I expect nothing less for them. I don't share the ideal that this team will be 8-8 or worse next season I fully expect this team to prove they are a quality team in the NFL

There are problems which need fixing. For this team to seriously compete for a Super Bowl next season, it will have to seriously address all problems, at all levels, no matter how large or small they may seem. If everyone (no exceptions) will commit themselves to eliminating as many or all of the problems which can be humanly corrected, the team will give itself the optimal opportunity to push the talent it has as far as it could possibly go.

If not, it will come up short again. Not because of x-excuse(s), but because the franchise didn't do whatever it took to get the job done. Thankfully, we have seen some early signs of commitment (i.e. firing coaches, disciplining players, etc.), but there is certainly more work to be done in the months ahead. :crossed:

 

[Doomsday101]

There are problems which need fixing. For this team to seriously compete for a Super Bowl next season, it will have to seriously address all problems, at all levels, no matter how large or small they may seem. If everyone (no exceptions) will commit themselves to eliminating as many or all of the problems which can be humanly corrected, the team will give itself the optimal opportunity to push the talent it has as far as it could possibly go.

If not, it will come up short again. Not because of x-excuse(s), but because the franchise didn't do whatever it took to get the job done. Thankfully, we have seen some early signs of commitment (i.e. firing coaches, disciplining players, etc.), but there is certainly more work to be done in the months ahead. :crossed:

I don't disagree with that and I think many of the problems are fixable. I don't think you need to blow up the team and start all over to do it.

 

[DallasEast]

I don't disagree with that and I think many of the problems are fixable. I don't think you need to blow up the team and start all over to do it.

In my opinion, if a poll were made asking whether the removal of a handful (e.g. five or less) of players was akin to "blowing up the team", some would actually vote YES!

 

[khiladi]

Just curious when he is going to be called out? Yes the receivers ran bad routes, etc. and the offense looked unorganized, but the protection and offensive line flat out played bad.

I think they were the majority of the problem with the offense. Are you telling me that one year removed from being pretty darn good with Sparano, they flat out can't play now? I also find it amusing how much we missed Kosier, who everybody wanted to run out of town.

When Romo spoke about protection he spoke about the Oline....Garrett is the goat, but where's the love for Hudson?

Houck likes to run the ball and has his OL moving forward the majority of the game. He also coaches teams that run plenty of play-action. It is hard to argue the game passed him buy, when the previous year, Roonie Brown averaged 5 YPC and Tomlinson, a couple years ago, was running for 2000 yards. How can Houch prevent his OL from collapsing, when Garrett has these 300 plus men playing standing up all the time?

The OL coach does have some responsibility, but Houck doesn't choose the game-plan to utilize the talent of his men.

BTW, the additiona of Holland was clearly a HH move, and everybody saw how effective he was, once he got in the game.

 

[Idgit]

Houck likes to run the ball and has his OL moving forward the majority of the game. He also coaches teams that run plenty of play-action. It is hard to argue the game passed him buy, when the previous year, Roonie Brown averaged 5 YPC and Tomlinson, a couple years ago, was running for 2000 yards. How can Houch prevent his OL from collapsing, when Garrett has these 300 plus men playing standing up all the time?

The OL coach does have some responsibility, but Houck doesn't choose the game-plan to utilize the talent of his men.

BTW, the additiona of Holland was clearly a HH move, and everybody saw how effective he was, once he got in the game.

The old: he's-a-great-OL-coach,-it's-not-his-fault-the-line-also-had-to-pass-block defense. That one's tough to argue. Though, it would be nice if we could count on protection regardless of what play was called.

I'm not sharpening a pitchfork for Houck necessarily. I'm just confused by how poorly the line played this year when, going into the season, I thought we were very talented and very deep along the OL.

 

[HanD]

Houck likes to run the ball and has his OL moving forward the majority of the game. He also coaches teams that run plenty of play-action. It is hard to argue the game passed him buy, when the previous year, Roonie Brown averaged 5 YPC and Tomlinson, a couple years ago, was running for 2000 yards. How can Houch prevent his OL from collapsing, when Garrett has these 300 plus men playing standing up all the time?

The OL coach does have some responsibility, but Houck doesn't choose the game-plan to utilize the talent of his men.

BTW, the additiona of Holland was clearly a HH move, and everybody saw how effective he was, once he got in the game.

totally agree. why assemble a line of mammoths when you want a downfield passing attack? this line and the RBs is already built to be a power running team with PA, slants and crossing patterns. RJ just needs to realize that and stop with the hollywood offense.

 

[Doomsday101]

In my opinion, if a poll were made asking whether the removal of a handful (e.g. five or less) of players was akin to "blowing up the team", some would actually vote YES!

There will be some turnover in the roster given the upcoming contracts of a few. I for one do not think Owens is going to be off the team and would not be surprised to see him have a productive season next year I do think Dallas will lean a bit heavier on the running game given the talent we have at RB and the fact it would take some of the burden off of Romo.

 

[Aven8]

totally agree. why assemble a line of mammoths when you want a downfield passing attack? this line and the RBs is already built to be a power running team with PA, slants and crossing patterns. RJ just needs to realize that and stop with the hollywood offense.

It seems that way...but was it no in 2007 that we loved Garrett so much because he attacked the defense and wasn't using the "conservative" Parcells offense? Playing not to lose?

They played pretty freaking good that year.....and the only difference other than one injury is.....Tony Sparano.

 

[HanD]

It seems that way...but was it no in 2007 that we loved Garrett so much because he attacked the defense and wasn't using the "conservative" Parcells offense? Playing not to lose?

They played pretty freaking good that year.....and the only difference other than one injury is.....Tony Sparano.

i highly underrated sparano and was one who wanted him gone in favor of HH. maybe it was a mistake in hindsight. maybe sparano was who kept JG dedicated to a run game. maybe it was the same with less results because of injuries and we just didn't notice it until we started losing this year. maybe with a year of film, the defenses of the league have caught up with JG and he hasn't been able to adjust....

i'm not saying play conservative like parcells. i just want more dedication to the run. and use it to wear teams down.

 

[DallasEast]

There will be some turnover in the roster given the upcoming contracts of a few. I for one do not think Owens is going to be off the team and would not be surprised to see him have a productive season next year I do think Dallas will lean a bit heavier on the running game given the talent we have at RB and the fact it would take some of the burden off of Romo.

I agree with all that. It would be very un-Jerry Jones like for him to part ways with Owens after the contract extension was presented and signed. Still, it has been noted that should Owens be released prior to the season that the action would be, paraphrasing, "blowing up the team" or "rebuilding the wide receiver corps from scratch" or etc.

I just think that's a highly unrational position to take given the talent we already have at the position. Granted, no one would replace Owens in the offense, but if he's absent, would it directly contribute to the offense not being effective? I would say no, but some would argue that our offense would be average or worse without Owens and that's not true. A very good (not great but very good) offense and a very good (again not great but very good) defense can win Super Bowls. One player playing outside of the quarterback position doesn't stop us from having both right now.

In limited fashion, both Felix Jones and Tashard Choice prove beyond a shadow of doubt in my mind that they are both great compliments to Marion Barber. We have the running backs in place. If the offensive line can finally gel, regardless of its makeup, we are fully capable of having a strong, solid rushing attack. That'll definitely decrease the emphasis for depending on big plays through the air and balance out the overall offense. That will aid Romo greatly.