Huge failure two years in a row

[coult44]

No backup QB last year. No backup QB this year.

No stud DE last year, no stud DE this year.

Guess what, this isn't news to anyone named Jones. They proclaimed each of the past two seasons that these two positions were the greatest needs on the team. Eventually, they are going to listen to themselves and take care of those problems. Ninety nine out of a hundred people said Romo wasn't going to play 16 games. That one person who thought he would, probably thought Moore would succeed as the backup also.

I hope Dak proves the football world wrong. In fact, I think he's going to take this team to a new and exciting era in Cowboys football, starting this year. I think he takes this position by the horns and never gives it back. With that being said, the Jones boys need to hurry and get a backup and DE on this team before they are making the same statements at the end of this season...

 

[Irvin88_4life]

You say we don't have a backup this year but then say you think Dak will lead us into a new Era? Haha ok

 

[nobody]

You say we don't have a backup this year but then say you think Dak will lead us into a new Era? Haha ok

It's funny when people post something that contradicts themselves in the very same post.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

It's funny when people post something that contradicts themselves in the very same post.

Its like they have to put jerry down first then go into what they think haha

 

[nobody]

Its like they have to put jerry down first then go into what they think haha

lol, I guess? I'm not entirely sure why. All the OP had to do was remove the QB info from their post and still have a semi-rational reason. They didn't do enough to address the DE position. Then again, you gotta deal with what is available and take players that you think will best fit the team. Maybe they weren't excited about enough of the healthy DE's out there.

 

[Reality]

No backup QB last year. No backup QB this year.

Actually, we have a backup quarterback this and thankfully so, because the backup is going to start. What you are really saying is we should have had TWO backups, and you would be right, but the Cowboys technically did have two backup quarterbacks: Kellen Moore and Dak Prescott. Unfortunately, Romo and the first backup (at the time) got injured.

That said, I agree with you if you mean we should have added a fourth quarterback (2nd or 3rd string at the time) going into camp. Most teams carry 4 quarterbacks through camp so at the very least, you have an extra quarterback in case the 1st through 3rd string quarterback gets injured.

I am hoping they will sign Austin Davis tomorrow, but it would have been nice to have a "next man up" actually exist beforehand.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Actually, we have a backup quarterback this and thankfully so, because the backup is going to start. What you are really saying is we should have had TWO backups, and you would be right, but the Cowboys technically did have two backup quarterbacks: Kellen Moore and Dak Prescott. Unfortunately, Romo and the first backup (at the time) got injured.

That said, I agree with you if you mean we should have added a fourth quarterback (2nd or 3rd string at the time) going into camp. Most teams carry 4 quarterbacks through camp so at the very least, you have an extra quarterback in case the 1st through 3rd string quarterback gets injured.

I am hoping they will sign Austin Davis tomorrow, but it would have been nice to have a "next man up" actually exist beforehand.

To be fair we had

Romo
Moore
Dak
Showers

It's hard to have 1 solid backup much less 3 like you mentioned. Most teams don't lose their starter and backup to injury the first month

 

[Reality]

To be fair we had

Romo
Moore
Dak
Showers

It's hard to have 1 solid backup much less 3 like you mentioned. Most teams don't lose their starter and backup to injury the first month

Yes, and I mentioned that. But we lost Moore early in camp, so we were down to three, and at the time did not know what we had with Prescott. We should have immediately added a another quarterback (4th string) even if he had absolutely no chance to make the team. You carry a 4th just in case you run out of them and you need one asap during preseason.

 

[waving monkey]

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...ing-the-best-worst-cowboys-eagles-pack-050416

Dallas is ranked 21st from worst as per Fox Sports.
But look at these teams back ups

As posts above already have stated we need to acquire DE talent.
Breath deeply breath slowly

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

No backup QB last year. No backup QB this year.

No stud DE last year, no stud DE this year.

Guess what, this isn't news to anyone named Jones. They proclaimed each of the past two seasons that these two positions were the greatest needs on the team. Eventually, they are going to listen to themselves and take care of those problems. Ninety nine out of a hundred people said Romo wasn't going to play 16 games. That one person who thought he would, probably thought Moore would succeed as the backup also.

I hope Dak proves the football world wrong. In fact, I think he's going to take this team to a new and exciting era in Cowboys football, starting this year. I think he takes this position by the horns and never gives it back. With that being said, the Jones boys need to hurry and get a backup and DE on this team before they are making the same statements at the end of this season...

No....this year? So we already played the 2016 season?

 

[dcboy]

Yes, and I mentioned that. But we lost Moore early in camp, so we were down to three, and at the time did not know what we had with Prescott. We should have immediately added a another quarterback (4th string) even if he had absolutely no chance to make the team. You carry a 4th just in case you run out of them and you need one asap during preseason.

who? remember, this was mid training camp. guys that are available now, weren't then. teams wanted to kill us to trade for third string guys. our opinions were very limited.

 

[Zekeats]

No backup QB last year. No backup QB this year.

No stud DE last year, no stud DE this year.

Guess what, this isn't news to anyone named Jones. They proclaimed each of the past two seasons that these two positions were the greatest needs on the team. Eventually, they are going to listen to themselves and take care of those problems. Ninety nine out of a hundred people said Romo wasn't going to play 16 games. That one person who thought he would, probably thought Moore would succeed as the backup also.

I hope Dak proves the football world wrong. In fact, I think he's going to take this team to a new and exciting era in Cowboys football, starting this year. I think he takes this position by the horns and never gives it back. With that being said, the Jones boys need to hurry and get a backup and DE on this team before they are making the same statements at the end of this season...

 

[visionary]

Actually, we have a backup quarterback this and thankfully so, because the backup is going to start. What you are really saying is we should have had TWO backups, and you would be right, but the Cowboys technically did have two backup quarterbacks: Kellen Moore and Dak Prescott. Unfortunately, Romo and the first backup (at the time) got injured.

That said, I agree with you if you mean we should have added a fourth quarterback (2nd or 3rd string at the time) going into camp. Most teams carry 4 quarterbacks through camp so at the very least, you have an extra quarterback in case the 1st through 3rd string quarterback gets injured.

I am hoping they will sign Austin Davis tomorrow, but it would have been nice to have a "next man up" actually exist beforehand.

This is not true and you know it

No rational person thought the Moore was an adequate back up and the team did not want Dak, he was drafted as a throw away fourth round pick because the team could but who they wanted. Dak was never projected to be the back up rather the developmental guy who would take 2-3 years.

That Dak might be a good QB came as a surprise to most including our FO

The fact is that the OP is absolutely correct

This FO went into this season woefully deficient at 2 positions that they themselves had identified as priorities going into the off season. No amount if revisionist history will change that.

 

[noshame]

We have the best back-up in the league....Romo.

 

[Chuck 54]

We had 4 QBs on the roster.
Two got injured seriously.
Should we have had 6 QBs? What's the magic number.

Romo = starter
Moore = backup they had confidence in
Dak = prospect and draft pick
Showers = PS

Who was going to sign here? Even now, are we pursuing any player we like better than Romo, Moore, Dak?

No one counts on loosing their top two guys in the off season.

 

[The Natural]

The DE thing not completely their fault, well yea it kinda is, but atleast they tried. Invested two second round picks into the position, except one of them looks like he's going to just be serviceable, and the other doesnt even want to play football.

 

[Diehardblues]

We lucked out with Dak it appears . Imagine our situation if he hadnt blossomed in preseason.

But it's still questionable starting a rookie. Not that we have much choice now . As excited as we are with the prospects of Dak it could crash and burn.

And then we passed in early rounds on a DE in what was herald a strong DL draft. Hard to knock our 1st rd pick but there were several options on DL , DE specifically in 2nd rd that might have impacted this year. I don't recall seeing Our 3rd and 4th rd picks on DL( Collins was hurt) making a play in preseason.

So, the premise of this thread is legit with the Cowboys not making our weaknesses a higher priority in draft. The OP just didn't present as well as I think he intended to.

 

[plasticman]

How do we know we don't have a stud DE this year?

Less than a month ago we didn't know we had a potential future quarterback. Folks were saying the Cowboys should have been more aggressive in the 1st round , that Jerry Jones screwed it up and got outmanuveured.

How do we evaluate the performance of a DE? Is it strictly sacks? Sacks and big plays like turnovers, perhaps? Possibly a combination of sacks, turnovers, and tackles?

Let's do it this way:

Let's assume that the best DE's in the league are selected to the Pro Bowl. What do the numbers look like or the "average" Pro Bowl DE from 2000 to 2015 seasons?

They average 11.4 sacks, 40.3 takles and 3 combined INT/FF.

The closest player in the past 16 seasons for the Cowboys not named Greg Ellis had 8 sacks, 35 tackles, and 1 turnover in 13 games. If you were to expand the numbers to a 16 game format then this guy would be pretty close to the production of a Pro Bowl DE, the studs at their position.

Who was the guy and which season did he produce these numbers?

His name is DeMarcus Lawrence and these were his numbers last season, 21015. It was his 2nd season after sustaining an injury in his rookie year for which he missed a lot of time.

So, again, perhaps the Cowboys already have their stud DE.

 

[jday]

You say we don't have a backup this year but then say you think Dak will lead us into a new Era? Haha ok

So here is what is happening across the mediot nation:. The Jones lucked into Dak; he was not considered a serious attempt at finding a backup, but just a project. And therefore the world has once again figured out a way to veer credit from the Jones family.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Hard to say Hardy was not a "stud" DE.