Hypothetical: Trade Dez

[Nightman]

According to who?

One season does not mean anything. Let's trade Dez cause Murray had a big year.

Oh yeah we let him walk.

Call me in a couple seasons if any pattern develops.

 

[SuspectCorner]

This is NOT like the Herschel Walker trade. Walker was one of the top RBs playing when he was traded to Minnesota. But Dallas was so far removed from contention that his excellence was of little consequence. After all, RBs still need an OL and a capable defense so that their scores and yardage hold up when the final gun sounds. Walker and Dallas had NONE of that. They were putrid and postitoned at the very bottom of the pecking order. Hence the trade to Minnesota.

These Cowboys are within striking distance of the crown and with a limited window as Romo's career winds down.

Dez Bryant is an NFL-established quantity. A top-flight weapon in the league, maybe the best WR playing in the game these days, and maybe the best player on the Cowboys roster. I can't see trading him for draft picks that may or may not pan out and most likely won't compensate for his loss in the immediate term. Which means another lost year. And Adrian Peterson is STILL a 30-year-old RB. If you're serious about playing the odds you realize that Dez will likely be playing for several years after Peterson has retired. It's just typical of the difference between the two positions, RB and WR.

The Cowboys are doing the right thing massaging the situation with Dez. Even if they have to franchise tag him for a couple of years.

 

[Beast_from_East]

This is NOT like the Herschel Walker trade. Walker was one of the top RBs playing when he was traded to Minnesota. But Dallas was so far removed from contention that his excellence was of little consequence. After all, RBs still need an OL and a capable defense so that their scores and yardage hold up when the final gun sounds. Walker and Dallas had NONE of that. They were putrid and postitoned at the very bottom of the pecking order. Hence the trade to Minnesota.

These Cowboys are within striking distance of the crown and with a limited window as Romo's career winds down.

Dez Bryant is an NFL-established quantity. A top-flight weapon in the league, maybe the best WR playing in the game these days, and maybe the best player on the Cowboys roster. I can't see trading him for draft picks that may or may not pan out and most likely won't compensate for his loss in the immediate term. Which means another lost year. And Adrian Peterson is STILL a 30-year-old RB. If you're serious about playing the odds you realize that Dez will likely be playing for several years after Peterson has retired. It's just typical of the difference between the two positions, RB and WR.

The Cowboys are doing the right thing massaging the situation with Dez. Even if they have to franchise tag him for a couple of years.

Yep, if a long term contract cant be worked out then just franchise Dez back to back in 2015 and 2016.

By 2017, Romo is probably close to being done and it wont matter who we have at WR once Romo hangs them up. Might as well just let Dez walk at that point and rebuild through the draft.

 

[Nightman]

Yep, if a long term contract cant be worked out then just franchise Dez back to back in 2015 and 2016.

By 2017, Romo is probably close to being done and it wont matter who we have at WR once Romo hangs them up. Might as well just let Dez walk at that point and rebuild through the draft.

I don't want to see either go, but that 30m+ earmarked for Dez and Romo could go a long way towards reloading.

 

[TwentyOne]

Disclaimer: I know this will not be a popular topic for many Cowboy fans, so please understand this was strictly a scenario that peaked my interest the more I researched it. This is hypothetical and I posted it because I think some may find it interesting.

Let me first state that I love Dez Bryant the player. His passion is unmatched, he intimidates opponents, has made his claim as the top WR, and he scores touchdowns..alot of them.

After reading about Dez's current troubled contract negotiations between the Cowboys, David Wells, and new agent rep Roc Nation.. http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...-adviser-new-agents-clouds-contract-talks.ece ..This got me thinking about what would happen if we traded Dez now before he potentially walks next year if contract talks break down.

What could the Cowboys get in return for a Dez trade? I'm thinking there are a number of teams that would be willing to give up a 1st rounder and a 2nd/3rd rounder, maybe even two first rounders. What if Minn trades a 1st and AP! Look, I know I'm dreaming, but stay with me here. My gut tells me if we did trade Dez, somehow..someway.. AP would end up a Dallas Cowboy. Exp since it would free up $13mil.

So how do we replace him? Well, replacing Dez's physicality would be hard to do, but spreading his production around may not be as hard as you think. We haven't tapped into receiver potentials like Escobar, Devin Street, and Chris Boyd. We have proven talent like Witten, Williams, and Beasley. And with the additional first rounder, we could grab a potential #1 WR like Kevin White (6'3" 215 & runs 4.3's) or Amari Cooper (6'1" 210 & runs 4.4). I personally like Kevin White bc he's as big as Dez, but faster. And more notably is the exact opposite character traits as Dez.. "White won't be taking many pre-draft visits prior to the 2015 NFL Draft, but teams say that is because their character reports on White are good and they don't have questions about his make up."
Read more at http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/draft2015WR.php#UoBVQrpS53Cd36Ik.99

Lets face it, Dallas is a "running" team now. If AP was in the backfield and we add a top tier WR in the first round (locked up for cheap for the next five years btw)..I believe we could still dominate on offense. This would eliminate the Dez Question marks and the fear of a potential character breakdown after signing a big contract with a Jay-Z lead Roc Nation (really?!). I get that Dez wants to liberate himself and become a man that makes his own decisions.. But signing with Roc Nation, dropping your mentor (David Wells) like a bag of rocks, and giving the Jones family a reason to doubt you is not a great start to his independence.

Dez turned I another remarkable season (88- 1,320yrd- 16td).In saying that, I'll leave you with this food for thought from last year performances...
Playoff games: Greenbay 4- 38- 0; Detroit 3- 48- 0

Reg Season Playoff teams: Arz 2- 15- 1, Ind 5- 73- 1, Sea 4- 63- 0

Top four Games: Tenn(2-14) 10-103-1, NYG(6-10) 9-151-0, Jax(3-13) 6-158-2, Phi(10-6) 6-114-3

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I would trade Dez for 2 first round picks. But one of them has to be between 1-10 and the other not lower then 20.

But that kind of trade is more or less of academical nature. Nobody will offer me that because the player is not worth it compared to what i will get thru the two picks.

I would also trade him for a first and a 2nd round pick. But the first has to be between 1-6 and the 2nd has to be near the first round.

I would never trade Dez for a first and AP. That would mean i'd give up a first or 2nd round pick for AP. And that is too high for AP. Just because he is 30 and i will get only 1 or 2 good years out of him. Thats not enough for that kind of a high pick it will cost me.

 

[dallasdave]

STOP the madness, the Cowboys are not going to trade their best player. Anyone who believes this needs to have a couple hard shots of booze, jump in the cold shower, and come out of the half coma they are in and come back to reality.

 

[MWH1967]

the most passionate player on the entire roster other than Witten and Lee. Nope . That like folding on pocket A's...lol he's that good and has the love for the game..Just can't pass on that.

 

[Hardline]

Hypothetical trade threads make me sad.

 

[Nightman]

Dez is better than any WR in the draft and has a rapport with Romo that takes years to build.

So the first #1 pick would have to be spent on a WR just to replace a portion of what Dez provides.

The second #1 pick would be next year so it wouldn't help our team at all this season, one off-season removed from a 12-4 season.

We already let our POY RB walk over money, trading our star WR would be doubling down on that mistake for some vision of the future they may or may not come true.

 

[JPostSam]

not saying i like the idea of a trade... but to play along, i'll say that, if cleveland were to offer picks 12 and 19, i'd have to think about it.

to control picks 12, 19 and 27 AND clear millions in cap space would be amazing.

 

[mattjames2010]

The only way I'd consider trading Dez is if we get an offer of a top 10-15 first round pick with a 2nd round pick attached to it. With first round pick, I'd draft Green-Beckham.

You'd get out of giving a big contract, you'd draft a WR who resembles Dez in many ways and you'd still have a first round pick to use on an RB, CB, or DT. Then whatever position you don't go for in the first, you have two second round picks.

Of course, all hypothetical and will never happen. But that's the only way I'd trade Dez. If you trade him away, WR becomes a need and you MUST use the picks you get from Dez to draft his replacement.

 

[mattjames2010]

not saying i like the idea of a trade... but to play along, i'll say that, if cleveland were to offer picks 12 and 19, i'd have to think about it.

to control picks 12, 19 and 27 AND clear millions in cap space would be amazing.

I wouldn't even think about that, I'd do it and be too excited to even remember to say goodbye to Dez.

 

[HoustonSucks]

Wow, thanks to Madden and Free Agency sometimes I think there are certain fans more excited by wheeling and dealing, drafts, trades, signings, contracts, hypothehtical-rosters, than they are about what's actually happening on the field. Hurry, season. Hurry.

 

[Frozen700]

If Minnesota wants to trade their first this year and AP for dez I do it in a heart beat

Yeah watching us go 5-11 and watching Twill be our lead WR, struggling to get open. Would be so fun.

Great idea

 

[DFWJC]

Dez is better than any WR in the draft and has a rapport with Romo that takes years to build.

So the first #1 pick would have to be spent on a WR just to replace a portion of what Dez provides.

The second #1 pick would be next year so it wouldn't help our team at all this season, one off-season removed from a 12-4 season.

We already let our POY RB walk over money, trading our star WR would be doubling down on that mistake for some vision of the future they may or may not come true.

The problem with what you said is that we don't know if Dez is better than all WRs in one of possibly the best WR draft classes in history.
On the other hand...well, we DO know what we have in Dez...and, well again, we don't know if any will be better.

I'll just keep our guy

 

[dallasdave]

"Crazy" by Ozzy comes to mind when people start talking about trading DEZ !!!!

 

[visionary]

Yeah watching us go 5-11 and watching Twill be our lead WR, struggling to get open. Would be so fun.

Great idea

Yep, just like the NE WRs struggle to get open lol

 

[Nightman]

The problem with what you said is that we don't know if Dez is better than all WRs in one of possibly the best WR draft classes in history.
On the other hand...well, we DO know what we have in Dez...and, well again, we don't know if any will be better.

I'll just keep our guy

I'm talking RIGHT NOW. No learning curve, rookie wall, etc

Pretty safe bet Dez is better

 

[Thrill67]

Funny how people who says Dez is a time bomb can't prove their case...lol

 

[kevm3]

What kind of sense would it make to trade Dez unless you are going in rebuild mode? Say we trade him and get AD. Who are we going to throw the ball to? A first round draft pick at WR who is going to take time to acclimate to the NFL game?