I am appalled by this board sometimes...

[Dat mans bro]

I personally like the realism here instead of the kool aid being served at extreme skins or Commanders radio here in D.C. After every win or close loss (like yesterday), they act like they are one step away from the SB. Why be just happy just winning? Let's be real and know where our defieciencies are.

That is the exact reason the PAts are so good (outside the cheating...) is that they do not celebrate every victory and know what to keep an eye on (SB and getting better). That is the reason the skins are where they are always.

If we are to get better, we need to be realists. Not delusional.

If you think its bad here, you should see the conversations our Cowboys watching group here in D.C has during the week/game. It makes this zone look tame.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Shhh. You'll be branded a hater or whiner by the Stepford fans. After an ugly win, you're not allowed to point out the ugly parts.

Wow. You really don't read all the posts before you comment do you???? I didn't say anyone was a hater or whiner. If that is what you feel you are then so be it. Maybe you have a complex. Maybe I touched a nerve somewhere that has been gnawing at you. I said I don't like seeing these kinds of posts immediately following a win against a team that traditionally plays us tough as if we are going down the tubes. This is very musch like the guy who used to wtire for the DMN (Cowlishaw? can't remember his name).

Doom and gloom is never welcome. However constructive criticism is and there is a time for it.

 

[Vtwin]

I personally like the realism here instead of the kool aid being served at extreme skins or Commanders radio here in D.C. After every win or close loss (like yesterday), they act like they are one step away from the SB. Why be just happy just winning? Let's be real and know where our defieciencies are.

That is the exact reason the PAts are so good (outside the cheating...) is that they do not celebrate every victory and know what to keep an eye on (SB and getting better). That is the reason the skins are where they are always.

If we are to get better, we need to be realists. Not delusional.

If you think its bad here, you should see the conversations our Cowboys watching group here in D.C has during the week/game. It makes this zone look tame.

Very well said!This is a DISCUSSION board for crying out loud.Discussing all aspects of the various perceptions of the teams perfomance is what we are here for right?As most have agreed on, this team is not perfect. Why is it not acceptable to discuss those imperfections? Should we just hide under the couch and hope those imperfections go away?There is not a single person here who doesn't want this team to win the SB this year.Whining about posts discussing the problems this team has is almost as childish as putting posters on the "ignore list" because you don't agree with their opinions.Only ignoramuses and Eagles fans do that.

 

[Tass]

We're 9-1 , we own the NFC East, and most I read here on the zone is criticism of the team. Not constructive criticism most of the time either.
Instead we complain about all we do wrong, even when we win!!!!!!

I guess I just don't understand some people.

We were life and death with a crappy Commanders team.

We made a crappy QB look like a great QB.

Barely squeaking by the Stinks and the Bills does not bode well for the postseason. THAT is why people are understandably worried.

 

[AsthmaField]

It's not surprising at all that we didn't blow out a fairly bad Commanders team. These games... as has been said a thousand times already... always seem to go down to the wire.

But we did what a good team does... we held on and beat them any way we could.

Plus... not only is it hard to beat your biggest rival who always focuses on your game all year... and not only is it difficult to win three games in a row... but it is VERY difficult to win three in a row against your entire division. It's even harder if you throw in the fact that two of the three were on the road.

Dallas did a great job in pulling that game out yesterday.

We're not perfect, for sure. But that game should have been Washington's. Things were falling their way, and they had all of the momentum several times yesterday. That's exactly the kind of game that Aikman and the early 90's Cowboys would always have about 3 times per season... except that they'd lose those kinds of games.

All teams (except this year's Pats) have those kinds of games and it's usually a loss. We won. That says a lot about this team.

$0.02

 

[Tass]

i dont think anyone expected J Campbell to throw for 300 yards. WOW. Who said the skins didnt have a qb?

I'm pretty sure you could throw for 150 and a TD against us, dude.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

What kind of a 'realist' requires this year's Dallas Cowboys to win the Superbowl for their happiness? That seems most 'unrealistic' given the circumstances this year...

 

[Doomsday101]

None of his comes as a surprise. People sit here predicting these big blowouts all week long and when it does not happen some freak out. This is the NFL and most of the time wins don’t come easy.

 

[03EBZ06]

We made a crappy QB look like a great QB.

Yup, we sure did, we made a mediocre QB look like an ALL-PRO. :

I am very happy with our record, I never would have dreamt that we'd be 9-1, noway. I am certainly enjoying the ride and I hope we can continue to be successful.

Having said that, skins had 55 pass plays, 55 of them but we only had one sack (granted, another sack was taken away from Ware), the QB pressure was spotty even though their OLine was hampered with injuries.

We shouldn't have given up 340+ passing yard to a QB who's most passing yards until our game was 248 passing yards.

But again, a win is a win and I am very happy about the win and the record but I see nothing wrong with discussing flaws with the team. At the sametime, we also should focus on positives as well.

 

[AsthmaField]

i dont think anyone expected J Campbell to throw for 300 yards. WOW. Who said the skins didnt have a qb?

All of us Cowboy fans who saw the greatest blind squirrel of them all and watched him occasionally find a nut against a good team every now and then.

We all saw Quincy have the occasional pretty decent game and this place would react just like Extremeskins does and say that Carter had grown into a good QB.

Consistency is key to being a good QB. You have to do it on a week in and week out basis... or you're going to be another Carter, Harrington, Carr, etc.

Not to mention that good QB's always find a way to win in the closing moments of games. Campbell will either put it on the carpet or throw it to the other guy when it gets down to cruch time... just like he did in the last two weeks in his "good" games.

If Campbell holds it together yesterday late... his team probably wins. He didn't, although he did complete a lot of passes against a defense that was letting him throw underneath for the last 10 min. of the game.

If that's what the Skins want out of their QB... just to move against a prevent and then fold under the pressure of the red zone... then I'm happy for them.

 

[superpunk]

Yup, we sure did, we made a mediocre QB look like an ALL-PRO. :

I am very happy with our record, I never would have dreamt that we'd be 9-1, noway. I am certainly enjoying the ride and I hope we can continue to be successful.

Having said that, skins had 55 pass plays, 55 of them but we only had one sack (granted, another sack was taken away from Ware), the QB pressure was spotty even though their OLine was hampered with injuries.

We shouldn't have given up 340+ passing yard to a QB who's most passing yards until our game was 248 passing yards.

But again, a win is a win and I am very happy about the win and the record but I see nothing wrong with discussing flaws with the team. At the sametime, we also should focus on positives as well.

If you throw the ball 55 times, you are going to top 300 yards. You'd have to be as inept as Vince Young not to.

That said, Jason Campbell's YPA (greatest QB success indicator in the WORLD) was 6.4 for this game. His YPA for the season is 6.65. So we held him lower than his average, it was just the volume that made the stat line look bad.

It was disappointing that we only got one sack, but we also held the NFC's second leading rusher to 32 yards on 12 carries.

 

[theogt]

If you throw the ball 55 times, you are going to top 300 yards. You'd have to be as inept as Vince Young not to.

That said, Jason Campbell's YPA (greatest QB success indicator in the WORLD) was 6.4 for this game. His YPA for the season is 6.65. So we held him lower than his average, it was just the volume that made the stat line look bad.

It was disappointing that we only got one sack, but we also held the NFC's second leading rusher to 32 yards on 12 carries.

You could just use his QB rating, which was 84.5. Not spectacular, but slightly better than his career average. It certainly wasn't "ALL-PRO" material.

 

[03EBZ06]

If you throw the ball 55 times, you are going to top 300 yards. You'd have to be as inept as Vince Young not to.

That said, Jason Campbell's YPA (greatest QB success indicator in the WORLD) was 6.4 for this game. His YPA for the season is 6.65. So we held him lower than his average, it was just the volume that made the stat line look bad.

It was disappointing that we only got one sack, but we also held the NFC's second leading rusher to 32 yards on 12 carries.

Good points about YPA and holding Portis to 32 yards. I was just bit disappointed with how soft our defense played.

Oh well, I'm not going to dwell on yardage given up to Campbell, I just hope that the coaching staff can firm up the defense because when we meet packers, our defense needs to bring their best.

 

[superpunk]

Good points about YPA and holding Portis to 32 yards. I was just bit disappointed with how soft our defense played.

Oh well, I'm not going to dwell on yardage given up to Campbell, I just hope that the coaching staff can firm up the defense because when we meet packers, our defense needs to bring their best.

We were doing pretty good until we went up 28-16 and went into a soft prevent where we rush 4-5 and never get any pressure.

From reading Chargers forums, that is a staple of the Phillips defense. We stopped attacking and never subbed for our gassed pass-rushers. I hated it, but it got the job done.

 

[AsthmaField]

Good points about YPA and holding Portis to 32 yards. I was just bit disappointed with how soft our defense played.

Oh well, I'm not going to dwell on yardage given up to Campbell, I just hope that the coaching staff can firm up the defense because when we meet packers, our defense needs to bring their best.

I was fairly happy with the defense until there was about 10 min. left in the game and we started giving up the underneath over and over to Campbell. I knew they were going to creep down the field and I also knew the blind squirrel had found a nut yesterday (Campbell was playing pretty good)... so I thought they could score on us.

Sure enough, they did and then drove again, when Newman thankfully, stopped them.

 

[AsthmaField]

We were doing pretty good until we went up 28-16 and went into a soft prevent where we rush 4-5 and never get any pressure.

From reading Chargers forums, that is a staple of the Phillips defense. We stopped attacking and never subbed for our gassed pass-rushers. I hated it, but it got the job done.

Great minds think alike...

 

[silverbear]

Even more appalling is telling other people how to post or emote--as if a victory erases every bad thing that preceded it. When certain players play poorly or screw up, we have every right to notice it. What you crave is constant praise, and that won't fly. Go crush dissent on some other message board. The rest of us prefer reality land. Believe it not, it is possible to celebrate a win and concede that the team has problems. Try it.

Chuckle... feel threatened by this thread, do ya??

 

[EPL0c0]

I just logged on to see some high fiving about beating the most hated of our rivals and all I see is threads about how bad Roy was in coverage, The bad play by the Defense, the offensive play calling.

Man o man, I posted in a recent thread leading up to this game that this would be a nail biter and how important it was not to look past the skins, even though they are a much lesser talented team than we are.

It's always like this with them. Always. This is our division rival. They know us better than most teams. They have been studying us the whole year to get to this game.

You want to take shots at the team but we are winning big, we are winning the close ones and we are coming from behind. This team has it's weaknesses but so far we have been able to overcome them.

Instead of acting like the sky is falling if we don't do this or don't do that, we should be happy as pigs in mud that we are now 9-1 and taking care of our division.

Be proud and be positive. We have a great team and a great chance at winning it all.

I am super excited that we won...beating the Commanders ALWAYS feels good... but knowing that we have Brett Favre coming up and seeing how easily Campbell was able to lead his team down the field on FIVE scoring drives.

The defense did bend, but didn't break and I'm thankful, but this game should NOT have been this close. The pass rush was lacking...GB's Oline is better.

With joy comes concern. But trust me, the joy is there

 

[DTK]

I haven't read through the entire thread, so I don't know if this has been said but I think our expectation level as a fanbase is higher than most. Not only do we want to win, but we want to win convincingly in all 3 phases of the game. Our defense wasn't at it's best last night and to be able to win in the playoffs and especially in the Super Bowl our defense is going to have to be better. Plus, when we're paying a guy like Roy the way we are we have higher expectations in regards to his performance. Nothing wrong with that.

Having said that, we're all ecstatic to be 9-1. Nobody predicted that. Now that we're there, let's go farther.

Nothing wrong with having high expectations. Heck, the Commanders are considering the game a "moral" victory. Thank god we don't consider losses that way.

 

[silverbear]

We were life and death with a crappy Commanders team.

We made a crappy QB look like a great QB.

Barely squeaking by the Stinks and the Bills does not bode well for the postseason. THAT is why people are understandably worried.

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Gee, you do know the Skins and Bills are .500 teams, don't you?? We're not talkin' about the Fins and Niners here...

It's quite unrealistic to expect blowout wins in every game, Tass... sometimes, the other team comes into the game psyched to play, and sometimes, as Dan Jenkins once memorably wrote about football, the dang thing bounces funny on you...

The Boys have played 10 games, won 9, 7 of them quite comfortably... but instead of being pleased by the big picture, some folks in here can only focus on the two games where the Boys didn't play their absolute best...

Well, the Cowboys have problems in the secondary; they had them going into the season, they've had them throughout the season, and their gonna continue to have them until this season ends, whenever that may be... teams can move the ball on the Cowboys using the short passing game, period... when a team does move the ball on them that way, the only way the Boys are gonna be able to win is to put megapoints, make it a shootout... the good news is this team is well-equipped to do exactly that...

I guess some of y'all don't remember the mess the Cowboys were at the end of last season... I guess you thought that was a Super Bowl contender, but for one or two weaknesses that could be easily corrected in one offseason... well, it wasn't, it was in fact an eminently mediocre team with a whole mess of problems... to expect them all to have been fixed in one offseason is not only unrealistic, it's asinine...

Personally, if you had told me that the Cowboys would be 9-1 at this point of the season back in August, I'd have been overjoyed (especially knowing we were working with an all-new coaching staff and system)... that was and is FAR beyond my expectations for this club... so rather than carp on weaknesses that we really can't do anything about until the offseason, I'm gonna focus on the positive...

If all this gloom and doom wasn't so damned ANNOYING, I'd feel sorry for the whiners and the moaners... they're clearly not enjoying this season anywhere near as much as some of us are...