I can't believe this forum...

[Spectre]

seemed an overwhelming majority wanted Parcells out and gone...

and yet all of you are so excited the idea of having a position coach or 1st time Headcoach taking over this winning team next year.

It's like you'll buy anything the Jones' are selling.

How many of you would have thought EVEN ONCE about Singletary, Rivera, Ryan, Garrett, etc. as our future headcoach BEFORE they were mentioned as possible candidates?

Nobody.

And now all of the sudden everyone is completely on board with Singletary because Jerry said so?

...

I miss BP already...

 

[UVAwahoos]

seemed an overwhelming majority wanted Parcells out and gone...

and yet all of you are so excited the idea of having a position coach or 1st time Headcoach taking over this winning team next year.

It's like you'll buy anything the Jones' are selling.

How many of you would have thought EVEN ONCE about Singletary, Rivera, Ryan, Garrett, etc. as our future headcoach BEFORE they were mentioned as possible candidates?

Nobody.

And now all of the sudden everyone is completely on board with Singletary because Jerry said so?

...

I miss BP already...

I think if you look at my last 20 or so posts, you'll find adamant support for everything you just said.

There will be a couple people who wake tomorrow saying..."well we're entitled to our own opinion and you can leave if you have a problem with it"

Some other delusional fans will say "BP didn't win a playoff game, so he obviously sucked as much as Campo"

Any idiot who puts Parcells and Campo in the same sentence shouldn't deserve your time. My best advice is to ignore what people say and just read the forum for the articles and up to the minute news. A lot of people are really good about immediately sharing anything they hear that relates to the Cowboys from the media, so it's a good way to learn about everything.

If you start reading what people are saying out of opinion however, you're just gonna go crazy because you obviously are a rational and knowledgeable fan who thinks before you type stuff, unlike the Parcells bashers on here.

 

[smarta5150]

Parcells was a .500 coach and was 0-2 in the playoffs with us. PERIOD.

The couple bright sparks he had came from GM-type decisions which I am happy for. He brought in great talent but as for coaching he was awful.

Play calls, schemes, motivation... these vital parts were lacking with Parcells at the helm.

I am going to accept any new coaches we bring in with open arms.

Call me an idiot if you want but I will be around still when all is well WITH OUT Parcells.

 

[CalCBFan]

A lot of people on this board were talking about "the Bears DC" (Rivera) or "the Ravens DC" (Ryan) when the D fell apart in November. There was a lot of talk about Fisher, Lovie, and Cowher. BP was losing ground around here for some time. I for one have never liked him, but had he produced more I wouldn't care.

I think when people see guys like Payton turn around a team in 1 year they think "YOUTH". BP was stuck in the '80's trying to get back to '86 and '90 (or whatever). This is what a lot of us are worrying about in bringing back Turner: Jerry trying to recapture the '90's for the Cowboys. It can't be done. Romo is NOT Aikman, but he does have assets, namely his mobility.

And while we're on the subject of rationality, most reasonable people want a coach that produces a winner while he's with their team. BP wasn't dong that for the Cowboys, so we fans want someone else in here w/ new ideas. If we don't make the POs or don't win in the POs we won't be any worse off than when BP was here...

 

[Spectre]

I loved Parcells but I'll be the first to state that he certainly wasn't perfect.
He had his faults, that's for sure.

But it amazes me that the same conviction people here showed in wanting him departed is the same conviction being shown in favor of complete nobodys in the NFL coaching world, based solely upon the fact that they got an interview.

It's mind boggling.

UVAwahoos:

You just made one of the most sensible posts I've read here and it is comforting to know that I am not the only one who doesn't believe everything I read and doesn't run with the masses.
Thank you.

 

[smarta5150]

Its not that everyone around here are being sheep and "sucked" by JJ.

There are many different opinons around here lately if you have been keeping up with it all.

There are those who like the idea of Norv and also those who want Phillips (I am for him actually and then go down the list of defensive guys).

So I really dont see what you're saying...
And now all of the sudden everyone is completely on board with Singletary because Jerry said so?

 

[smarta5150]

Here's a poll that was conducted earlier... Singletary had the most votes but it was hardly a landslide.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80240

 

[silverblue]

honestly, in the nfl if you have a coach that has a winning record over 4 years or more with your team, he is a good coach and not awful. The only other coaches that are current head coaches with winning record over the past 4 years are people that we are not ever going to get.

We would all love for Dallas to be in the super bowl again, but there must be some other things fall into place beyond the control of owners, coaches and yes even the all-powerful fans for it to happen. It can be a fortuitous trade or draft pick(it is definitely not an exact science no matter how much we fans prognosticate from afar), a surprisingly easy schedule or division, it can even be a beneficial call from the refs here and there.

 

[Spectre]

honestly, in the nfl if you have a coach that has a winning record over 4 years or more with your team, he is a good coach and not awful. The only other coaches that are current head coaches with winning record over the past 4 years are people that we are not ever going to get.

We would all love for Dallas to be in the super bowl again, but there must be some other things fall into place beyond the control of owners, coaches and yes even the all-powerful fans for it to happen. It can be a fortuitous trade or draft pick(it is definitely not an exact science no matter how much we fans prognosticate from afar), a surprisingly easy schedule or division, it can even be a beneficial call from the refs here and there.

exactly.



My point was, the overwhelming majority seems to be excited about at least one or another, be it Norv or Garrett or Singletary...

I'm not in love with any of them and personally wish Parcells was still here and gave us the best chance to win next season.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Tom Landry was a Defensive coordinator that helped lead the New York Giants to a championship then back to back losses in championship games before becoming the first Cowboys HC. And led the Cowboys to less than 20 wins over his first 5 years.

Cant always be so quick to judge. I for one considered, Cameron, Grimm, Rivera, and Ryan as potential candidates. But Singletary, Norv, and Garrett where out of the question for this team.

I still consider Martz as a possibility, and it may become a missed opportunity.

 

[silverblue]

yes, I don't understand how some of these people on here can bash Parcells and then be excited about some unproven quantity at head coach. IMO, if Parcells was going to leave, I would expect someone at least comparable. We really have no idea whatsoever what kind of head coach Garrett or Singletary would be. I guess we do know what kind of head coach Norv or Wade would be as they have been head coaches before.......losing head coaches

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Yet with Parcells you know that he is a quitter. Same happened in Dallas, and you know that he hasnt won the prize in nearly 20 years.

 

[silverblue]

what rubbish. How many coaches coach their whole career and maybe even have winning records and never win a single super bowl at all or even go to one? Parcells is a a mercenary for sure, but who can blame him really when you are talking about that kind of money, I would be too. I actually give him respect for stepping out when he knows that he does not have enough to give a team what he thinks they deserve from a head coach in spite of the money.

 

[silverblue]

What head coaches that are currently active in nfl have won a super bowl?

gruden
billick
Belichick
holmgren
shanahan

Is that it? Really if your only criterion is winning the 'prize' then these are the only active coaches we could get that would compare to Parcells, right?

I guess there will be one more after Sunday too

 

[UVAwahoos]

Yet with Parcells you know that he is a quitter. Same happened in Dallas, and you know that he hasnt won the prize in nearly 20 years.

Dude, the Skins and Terps are two of the most pathetic teams in pro and college football. How would you know anything about coaches? With your garbage NFL team, the entire coaching situation is a mess and your head coach looks and acts like he died 2 years ago.

I'd be on extremeskins right now asking people how Snyder pulled off fooling you guys into a "Weekend at Bernie's" style situation where you actually believe Gibbs is alive. Don't worry about us, we'll somehow get by without you.

ps. Don't we still have a better record at Fed Ex field than you idiots do? Talk about a home away from home.

 

[UVAwahoos]

what rubbish. How many coaches coach their whole career and maybe even have winning records and never win a single super bowl at all or even go to one? Parcells is a a mercenary for sure, but who can blame him really when you are talking about that kind of money, I would be too. I actually give him respect for stepping out when he knows that he does not have enough to give a team what he thinks they deserve from a head coach in spite of the money.

I completely agree. Parcells stepped down for legit reasons from every team but the Patriots. He definitely screwed them over a bit, but we all know Kraft is an idiot, and had a lot to do with Parcells leaving so you can't entirely blame the whole thing on BP. He had health issues with the Jets and ran into the same situation in Dallas that he did with the Patriots: An idiot owner.

Jerry definitely messed the whole thing up with Parcells, just like he did with Jimmy. The "figurehead coach" statements BP made on WFAN made that completely clear.

 

[silverbear]

exactly.



My point was, the overwhelming majority seems to be excited about at least one or another, be it Norv or Garrett or Singletary...

I'm not in love with any of them and personally wish Parcells was still here and gave us the best chance to win next season.

You talk as if Jerry ran Parcells out of town, when in point of fact the guy up and QUIT...

I was 100 per cent behind him right up to the moment he did that, but if he doesn't have it in him to give it one more shot, he has to go...

You need to get over it, and face the future with your weary past...

If there are any Dan Fogelberg fans in here, they'll get that last reference... LOL...

 

[ElGatoGrande]

seemed an overwhelming majority wanted Parcells out and gone...

and yet all of you are so excited the idea of having a position coach or 1st time Headcoach taking over this winning team next year.

It's like you'll buy anything the Jones' are selling.

How many of you would have thought EVEN ONCE about Singletary, Rivera, Ryan, Garrett, etc. as our future headcoach BEFORE they were mentioned as possible candidates?

Nobody.

And now all of the sudden everyone is completely on board with Singletary because Jerry said so?

...

I miss BP already...

That was the most underachieving and frustrating season this team has gone through since I don't know when. The fact that BP admittedly had no answers and refused to make changes sank his stock tremendously....that and the fact that a rookie coach using our reject players SCHOOLED him on national TV. I think most people here would have been fine with BP's return, but only if he brought in capable coordinators to compensate for his weaknesses.

This is one of those cases where a distasteful, old bird in the hand does not beat two in the bush. You need to raise your standards a bit if you're going to be a Cowboys fan.

 

[UVAwahoos]

That was the most underachieving and frustrating season this team has gone through since I don't know when. The fact that BP admittedly had no answers and refused to make changes sank his stock tremendously....that and the fact that a rookie coach using our reject players SCHOOLED him on national TV. I think most people here would have been fine with BP's return, but only if he brought in capable coordinators to compensate for his weaknesses.

This is one of those cases where a distasteful, old bird in the hand does not beat two in the bush. You need to raise your standards a bit if you're going to be a Cowboys fan.

Haha, I don't even wanna know who you want as the new HC, because it would completely negate this arrogant little sentence. Anybody who supports Parcells has the highest standards for this team.

 

[Sarge]

I miss BP already...

Give him a call - I'm sure he'd love to hear from ya.