I did not know it was this bad between TO & Haley

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Sorry if this is a repost I am sure it is so feel free to delete mods but I never seen this article

link: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6052142

Terrell Owens is done talking to his position coach.

T.O. said on his radio show Friday that his relationship with Dallas Cowboys receivers coach Todd Haley was ruined by a blowup this week. It began when Owens missed the start of Wednesday's practice because of an upset stomach, and Haley berated him for being late. Owens held his tongue then, but they later argued during a meeting.
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The story getting out seems to bother Owens the most because Haley vowed since training camp that all internal matters would stay behind closed doors. Owens spoke with reporters for 45 minutes Wednesday without ever mentioning any problems with Haley. But the incident was reported by several media outlets Friday before Owens gave his side of the story later on his weekly show.

From now on, T.O. said, "there will be nothing else, no other dialogue" between him and Haley.

"There will be no more friendly nothing because I don't trust anybody like that," Owens said. "I will go out and practice hard. I will respect him as a coach, and he should respect me as a player. Anything outside of that I am not going to be able to deal with.

"Right now, we are merely co-workers, and that's it," he added.

Owens caught only three passes for 45 yards in a loss to Philadelphia on Sunday. It was a key division game for the Cowboys and a personal revenge game for Owens after the Eagles dumped him midway through last season.

TV cameras showed Owens screaming at Haley - who also carries the title "passing game coordinator" - on the sideline during the game. Although teammates said some of his rants were encouragement, Owens admitted saying, "Why am I here?" about his limited action. Coach Bill Parcells later noted that 13 balls were thrown to Owens, five more than anyone else; two were intercepted and one was dropped.

The confrontation between receiver and coach occurred Wednesday, the first time the Cowboys were back on the practice field. A strength coach was sent to get Owens when he was absent.

"By the time I step on the field, Todd starts cursing at me, this and that, and I'm like, 'Dude, I was in the restroom,"' Owens said. "He said, 'I don't (care) what you were doing. Everybody else is out here."'

Owens said he didn't respond, although he later apologized to Parcells and was told, "All right, just try to get out here a little earlier."

Then Owens and Haley butted heads during a meeting.

"I was venting, he was venting," Owens said. "I felt it stayed behind closed doors.

"It's all about frustration. Everybody is still frustrated from the loss on Sunday. At some point, we had our time to vent on Monday, Tuesday and have that bad taste that sick feeling out of your mouth. On Wednesday, it's a new day. It's a new game plan, a new team that we're getting prepared for. That's where our focus and direction should be. But obviously Todd, he's been frustrated, and he's taking it out on other people."

Parcells does not allow assistant coaches to talk to reporters. Team officials did not immediately return calls. Parcells said Thursday and Friday he wasn't talking about Owens. Asked why, he said Thursday: "I'm tired of it."

Dallas plays Houston at home Sunday.

Owens has a history of not getting along with coaches, from his position coach to the offensive coordinator to the head coach. It led to his dismissal from San Francisco and Philadelphia.

Although Owens has missed most of the preseason with a hamstring and had a highly publicized accidental overdose, he insists that he's been on his best behavior in his first season in Dallas.

"I know in the back of people's minds they are waiting for something to happen," said Owens, in the first year of a three-year, $25 million contract with the Cowboys. "I have made a conscious effort not to go down those roads again."

Owens made it clear that he'll still listen to Haley, but their discussions must be limited to Xs and Os.

"In business, you have people that work together and don't necessarily get along together," he said.

Owens said "anything is fixable," but he feels his trust in Haley "is being violated."

"I will have a hard time (trusting him) here on out," Owens said.



He may very well be done in Dallas and the NFL if this is true.
 

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I've been giving TO the benefit of the doubt, and he hadn't done anything to change my mind... But this is starting to turn my attitude towards him. In the back of my mind I always new it would come.

Who knows, it may end up being nothing, but I don't like the way it looks at the moment.
 

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Although now old news, this feels like Christmas and far sooner than I could have imagined. It's like asking for that Red Rider BB gun for Christmas in November, and your mother turning around that night and handing you the rifle.

Really, my hatred for Owens far transcends any dislike I feel for the Cowboys. He is such an egomaniacal person that it's easy to wish sorrow upon him.
 

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How blind do people have to be to think that somehow because Owens is now in Dallas that he will magically be different than he has been everywhere else?

Terrell Owens is Terrell Owens and he isn't going to change, he isn't going to "grow up", he isn't going to stop doing the things that have gotten him thrown off of his other teams. Anyone who thought differently about this was going on blind hope and not reality.

With a guy who is 22 and does dumb stuff, there's a hope of him growing up and maturing. A guy who is 30+ isn't likely to change the way he acts. That's just the way it is folks so get used to it, it will only get worse.

And yes, I believe Jerry was the blindest one of all. :banghead:
 

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You all act like Parcells is just going to stand around and let this develop into something.

I doubt that seriously.
 

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LowTech;1090448 said:
You all act like Parcells is just going to stand around and let this develop into something.

I doubt that seriously.
TO already apologized/expained to Parcells and he's ok with it.
 

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Sounds to me like Haley is a little insecure in his job and blew this way out...He should be more concerned with drawing up a better passing game plan than if a player has to take a dump or not..What's worse, Bill punching him during a game on TV or him dumping on one of his players..
 

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Bullet22;1090453 said:
Sounds to me like Haley is a little insecure in his job and blew this way out...He should more concerned with drawing up a better passing game plan than if a player has to take a dump or not..What's worse, Bill punching him during a game on TV or him dumping on one of his players..

Bill Punching Haley - LOL. This GIF cracks me up.
 

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Bullet22;1090453 said:
Sounds to me like Haley is a little insecure in his job and blew this way out...He should more concerned with drawing up a better passing game plan than if a player has to take a dump or not..What's worse, Bill punching him during a game on TV or him dumping on one of his players..

That's a good point.

I don't care for the idea that any player revolts against a coach and I completely hate the fact Owens took it upon himself to discuss this at length on his radio show.

But Haley's role in this (like Childress and Knapp as well) can't be completely dismissed. He does have a reputation for being a bit of a yeller and I am sure this passing offense's lack of explosion is something he is catching flak over. We only hear a sliver of the story from both sides and it's up to the listener to draw their own conclusions, which they will do regardless of the facts.

You had two very frustrated people at the wrong time and it got to the media. It happens all the time in practices, I am sure. You just don't hear about it.
 

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A few thoughts:

1) I'm surprised I haven't heard more of this on the national scene. To me, this is a legitimate "Is there a blowup?" story. Much more so than the hamstring, his fine for being late to a meeting, the injured hand, the overdose, etc.

Those are SportsCenter-leading topics...yet I haven't heard much about this? Or maybe I just haven't paid close enough attention?

2) To me, this illustrates the worst quality TO has: his inability to trust. LaTunaNostra pointed this out when he fired his trainer. You frick up once with him, and you're cut off. The guy needs to learn some fundamentals of communication. Ok, so the two of them are pissed off and go at it. Big deal. Let cooler heads prevail and meet again at a later time to get past it.

3) At this point, like I've said before, I don't even care about his antics. I'd just like to see our quarterback play well for a string of games, for TO to finally play as good as his rep, etc, etc, etc.
 

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Dale;1090468 said:
A few thoughts:

1) I'm surprised I haven't heard more of this on the national scene. To me, this is a legitimate "Is there a blowup?" story. Much more so than the hamstring, his fine for being late to a meeting, the injured hand, the overdose, etc.

Those are SportsCenter-leading topics...yet I haven't heard much about this? Or maybe I just haven't paid close enough attention?

2) To me, this illustrates the worst quality TO has: his inability to trust. LaTunaNostra pointed this out when he fired his trainer. You frick up once with him, and you're cut off. The guy needs to learn some fundamentals of communication. Ok, so the two of them are pissed off and go at it. Big deal. Let cooler heads prevail and meet again at a later time to get past it.

3) At this point, like I've said before, I don't even care about his antics. I'd just like to see our quarterback play well for a string of games, for TO to finally play as good as his rep, etc, etc, etc.

I root for him to pull through with fingers crossed but in my heart of hearts i wish Keyshawn was still a Cowboy instead.
 

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Aikbach;1090472 said:
I root for him to pull through with fingers crossed but in my heart of hearts i wish Keyshawn was still a Cowboy instead.

The reason I was for the TO-for-Key shakeup was because I just didn't see this team heading anywhere if we returned essentially the same team as last year, offensively speaking.

I've been a huge Key fan since his signing here. Like many, I was skeptical though hoped Parcells would keep him in line. He was a great, gutsy player.

Of course, it's not looking like we're any better with TO. So who knows what the heck this team needs.
 

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Aikbach;1090472 said:
I root for him to pull through with fingers crossed but in my heart of hearts i wish Keyshawn was still a Cowboy instead.

I will wait a few weeks with additional poor Owens production before I wish that. It is a running joke, but there is a decoy factor, just by Owens' reputation alone.

If Johnson were here, our offense would be unchanged and all year in 2005 (and 2004 also) Coach Parcells was lamenting our receivers could not get separation.

I know it is gauche right now to compare the two player statistics, but the circumstances are hardly the same.
 

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Bledsoe just get him the damm ball when he is wide open and all is cured..
 

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I'm not a TO supporter, I never wanted him here, etc. However - he is seriously misquoted here. He said that he didn't expect to talk to Haley outside of football, not that he was done talking to him. I'm shocked no one else has pointed this out.
 
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