I don't get it - CENTER

[Champsheart]

Time after time I see mocks put up, all 7 rounds, all the draft discussion, and I do not think one time have I seen Center brought up.

We have to do something here.

Folks we have 1 Center on our roster, Gurode.

There are no others, thats it. We do not even have one on the practice squad.

If Gurode goes down we are in serious, serious trouble. We have all seen how being weak at Center can totally ruin your offense.

So it does not seem as if there is any thought of drafting one, so are people thinking we will sign one as a FA at some point?

Is there a reason this should not be a target position on Day 2?

 

[peplaw06]

Aren't there a few guys on the line who could play C in a pinch? IIRC Proctor or Kosier can play there.

But I agree, we need to look into getting a backup, especially if these guys can't do it.

 

[superpunk]

Most mocks do only one round of the draft. There aren't many centers or NT's worthy of a first round pick, and most mocks don't do trades, so that's why we aren;t seeing these critical positions addressed in mocks.

But I am sure they will be addressed, and probably on day 1.

 

[iceberg]

Time after time I see mocks put up, all 7 rounds, all the draft discussion, and I do not think one time have I seen Center brought up.

We have to do something here.

Folks we have 1 Center on our roster, Gurode.

There are no others, thats it. We do not even have one on the practice squad.

If Gurode goes down we are in serious, serious trouble. We have all seen how being weak at Center can totally ruin your offense.

So it does not seem as if there is any thought of drafting one, so are people thinking we will sign one as a FA at some point?

Is there a reason this should not be a target position on Day 2?

it's been brought up in all my rantings and ravings that we need to address the OL. i think we've made good moves for the T and G positions, but would have to agree we need to give C some love.

here's the analysis of this draft:
Mayock's Top Centers 2007 NFL Draft

1. Ryan Kalil, Sr -- USC
2. Samson Satele, Sr -- Hawaii
3. Leroy Harris, Sr -- NC State
4. Doug Datish, Sr -- Ohio State
5. Dan Mozes, Sr -- WVU
Draft Facts: Centers Last 6 Years
1st Round Picks -- .5 Per Year
1st Day Picks -- 3 Per Year
Total # Drafted -- 8.8 per year

stolen from another post. if i were to take a wild flyer, i say we take the ohio state guy in the 4th. why? i dunno. i dunno if he's even 4th round worthy. but we seem to have a thing for ohio state and like an available LB for parcells, we may not be able to pass up Ohio State AND a position of need. : )

kidding aside, what's the scoop on the above Centers?

 

[slick325]

Time after time I see mocks put up, all 7 rounds, all the draft discussion, and I do not think one time have I seen Center brought up.

We have to do something here.

Folks we have 1 Center on our roster, Gurode.

There are no others, thats it. We do not even have one on the practice squad.

If Gurode goes down we are in serious, serious trouble. We have all seen how being weak at Center can totally ruin your offense.

So it does not seem as if there is any thought of drafting one, so are people thinking we will sign one as a FA at some point?

Is there a reason this should not be a target position on Day 2?

Gurode was once a Guard who has been converted to Center. If Dallas drafts a Guard late in the draft I am sure the plan would be to make him into a utility player capable of stepping in at multiple positions. Much like Matt Lehr was when he was with the Cowboys.

Have no fear my friend, depth for Gurode can come in many forms. Via a late draft pick or one of the Guards on the roster (Procter, etc.) learning to play Center.

 

[iceberg]

Gurode was once a Guard who has been converted to Center. If Dallas drafts a Guard late in the draft I am sure the plan would be to make him into a utility player capable of stepping in at multiple positions. Much like Matt Lehr was when he was with the Cowboys.

Have no fear my friend, depth for Gurode can come in many forms. Via a late draft pick or one of the Guards on the roster (Procter, etc.) learning to play Center.

who's our deep snapper?

 

[zrinkill]

Gurode was once a Guard who has been converted to Center. If Dallas drafts a Guard late in the draft I am sure the plan would be to make him into a utility player capable of stepping in at multiple positions. Much like Matt Lehr was when he was with the Cowboys.

Have no fear my friend, depth for Gurode can come in many forms. Via a late draft pick or one of the Guards on the roster (Procter, etc.) learning to play Center.

Gurode played Center in College and was drafted by us to be the center ..... Parcells moved him to guard because he felt that Gurode could not handle the mental aspect of the position .....

Parcells moved him back and he took the spot from Johnson.

 

[Champsheart]

Most mocks do only one round of the draft. There aren't many centers or NT's worthy of a first round pick, and most mocks don't do trades, so that's why we aren;t seeing these critical positions addressed in mocks.

But I am sure they will be addressed, and probably on day 1.

Nah, I am not talking up 1 or 2 round mocks.
I see 7 round mocks all the time by posters, fans, and media. No Center.
I see position needs ranked, no Center.

Center should be a priority at some point in this draft IMO.

 

[superpunk]

Nah, I am not talking up 1 or 2 round mocks.
I see 7 round mocks all the time by posters, fans, and media. No Center.
I see position needs ranked, no Center.

Center should be a priority at some point in this draft IMO.

I've seen quite a few on here that have us looking at Samson Satele or Ryan Khalil in round 2. I think that's likely.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Quite frankly the list of centers out there doesn't knock my sox off...

You have several undersized guys or some bigger guys that are very slow.

Here are the guys that seem draftable:

Ryan Kalil, USC, 6026, 299, 5.01, 2nd round
Samson Satele, Hawaii, 6025 300, 5.25, 3rd/4th round
Drew Mormino, Central Michigan, 6032, 299, 5.36, 4th/5th round
Dustin Fry, Clemson, 6025, 314, 5.47, 4th/5th round
Enoka Lucas, Oregon, 6025, 303, 5.44, 5th/6th round
Mark Fenton, Colorado, 6042, 290, 5.21, 6th/7th round
Mark Bihl, Michigan, 6041, 302, 5.41, 7th round
Steve Vallos, Wake Forest, 6026, 307, 5.22, 7th round
Leroy Harris, No. Carolina St., 6024, 302, 5.33, 7th round

That's about it. Again, not a very exciting list.

 

[carphalen5150]

It is a valid point, especially with Johnson no longer in the fold. I do believe that Berger can play there and they may look to fill that from within.

 

[slick325]

who's our deep snapper?

Not 100% sure but is L.P. Ladouceur still the long snapper? He's a either a LB or TE by trade at 6-4 255lbs. Jeff Robinson had that job before him and he was a TE by trade. I say that to say, most LS aren't Centers.

 

[iceberg]

Quite frankly the list of centers out there doesn't knock my sox off...

You have several undersized guys or some bigger guys that are very slow.

Here are the guys that seem draftable:

Ryan Kalil, USC, 6026, 299, 5.01, 2nd round
Samson Satele, Hawaii, 6025 300, 5.25, 3rd/4th round
Drew Mormino, Central Michigan, 6032, 299, 5.36, 4th/5th round
Dustin Fry, Clemson, 6025, 314, 5.47, 4th/5th round
Enoka Lucas, Oregon, 6025, 303, 5.44, 5th/6th round
Mark Fenton, Colorado, 6042, 290, 5.21, 6th/7th round
Mark Bihl, Michigan, 6041, 302, 5.41, 7th round
Steve Vallos, Wake Forest, 6026, 307, 5.22, 7th round
Leroy Harris, No. Carolina St., 6024, 302, 5.33, 7th round

That's about it. Again, not a very exciting list.

oh man - you screwed up my ohio state connection by leaving him off!

if we trade down in the 1st and pick up an extra 2nd, i could see us going for kalil.

 

[iceberg]

Not 100% sure but is L.P. Ladouceur still the long snapper? He's a either a LB or TE by trade at 6-4 255lbs. Jeff Robinson had that job before him and he was a TE by trade. I say that to say, most LS aren't Centers.

yea, i know. i just was wondering that if in a pinch, did our LS have any C experience.

 

[carphalen5150]

I say that to say, most LS aren't Centers.

They are in Madden.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Time after time I see mocks put up, all 7 rounds, all the draft discussion, and I do not think one time have I seen Center brought up.

We have to do something here.

Folks we have 1 Center on our roster, Gurode.

There are no others, thats it. We do not even have one on the practice squad.

If Gurode goes down we are in serious, serious trouble. We have all seen how being weak at Center can totally ruin your offense.

So it does not seem as if there is any thought of drafting one, so are people thinking we will sign one as a FA at some point?

Is there a reason this should not be a target position on Day 2?

I proposed drafting one in my draft for the Cowboys.

Enoka Lucas Oregan 6-3 303 4.96 40/3.09 20/1.87 10/34 reps@225/27.5 Vert/8'8 Broad/4.84 Shuttle/8.10 Cone/
02/27/07 - NFL COMBINE: Lucas demonstrated his power Saturday, bench-pressing 225 pounds 34 times. Only two of the 58 prospects who were tested in Group 1 exceeded that total. Guards Justin Blalock of Texas and Manuel Ramirez of Texas Tech led the way with 40 reps apiece. Pro Football Weekly's 2007 Draft Guide ranks Lucas seventh among centers and projects that he will be selected in the fifth or sixth round. The 6-3, 298-pounder is known for his work ethic, competitiveness, awareness and durability. ESPN.com reports that Lucas "lacks ideal bulk and he will struggle to consistently drive two-gap defenders off the ball. However, he generally gets into good position. He never stops working and he has enough natural ability to continue to emerge as a contributor in the NFL." - Larry Mayer, Eugene Register-Guard

12/20/06 - PRO PROSPECTS: Center Enoka Lucas - The physical center with good footwork has a chance at having his name called in the middle rounds. He certainly has been the glue the Ducks have needed to keep its line virtually intact for two seasons.

 

[slick325]

Gurode played Center in College and was drafted by us to be the center ..... Parcells moved him to guard because he felt that Gurode could not handle the mental aspect of the position .....

Parcells moved him back and he took the spot from Johnson.

Actually, Gurode started his first two and one half years at Colorado at Center then moved to Guard in his Junior season. Yes, he was drafted as a Center by the Campo team but only played there one season. From then on he was our starting RG and backup Center.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

it's been brought up in all my rantings and ravings that we need to address the OL. i think we've made good moves for the T and G positions, but would have to agree we need to give C some love.

here's the analysis of this draft:
Mayock's Top Centers 2007 NFL Draft

1. Ryan Kalil, Sr -- USC
2. Samson Satele, Sr -- Hawaii
3. Leroy Harris, Sr -- NC State
4. Doug Datish, Sr -- Ohio State
5. Dan Mozes, Sr -- WVU
Draft Facts: Centers Last 6 Years
1st Round Picks -- .5 Per Year
1st Day Picks -- 3 Per Year
Total # Drafted -- 8.8 per year

stolen from another post. if i were to take a wild flyer, i say we take the ohio state guy in the 4th. why? i dunno. i dunno if he's even 4th round worthy. but we seem to have a thing for ohio state and like an available LB for parcells, we may not be able to pass up Ohio State AND a position of need. : )

kidding aside, what's the scoop on the above Centers?

Doug Datish sorta sucked at center for Ohio St. in 2006.

 

[slick325]

They are in Madden.

True.

 

[iceberg]

Doug Datish sorta sucked at center for Ohio St. in 2006.

'eh, it was the 1st list i saw for centers. starting to edumacate myself on the little guys now.