I got to give credit to Dak

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

welp time to get a new pc this one has been hacked apparently...

LOL

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I don't disagree with any of that. It doesn't change the fact that a couple of Staubach's passes during the part that I watched were absolutely terrible. That happens to all quarterbacks no matter the era. (For that matter, a couple of Kilmer's passes also were off the mark, although he was passing better than Staubach at that point and Washington was

This is a huge assumption...that any old bad incomplete pass....has exactly the same consequences as any other bad incomplete pass.

George Pickens dropped pass was not as consequential as Jackie Smith's....right?

 

[kramskoi]

Dak is gonna Dak.
I honestly started this thread because I have been highly critical of him, and I still don't believe he belongs in a professional football league. He chokes too much, and the NFL is supposed to be better than this.
All I was saying is that, versus the Lions, he continued to battle throughout the game.
Usually he pads his stats at the end because the game is already lost because he choked early.
That's the ONLY reason his fans can point to his high yardage totals- from playing weak teams or loose defenses in games that the Cowboys have already lost.
But if he could somehow mature enough not to choke, he has an offense around him that could do some serious damage.

"I still don't believe he belongs in a professional football league."


This is straight up unhinged and completely divorced from reality.

 

[kramskoi]

YOU have a point about the way he played , I ddint see the deer in the headlights or big binking eyes look , so that was good, but STs were real,bad , Lions had exploited something they saw in the tape and repeated ly getting short fields . D wasnt good enough to stop them .

STILL a QB in his 10th year should throw better balls to receiver where they get it or no one does and also shouldnt throw hospital balls , that throw to lamb if it was a bit more mangeable would have been a TD and we dont know how the game would have turned out.
This the 1st game Pickens completely disappointed me , he was responsible for 1 int and some stupid penalties

Do you watch ANY OTHER QBs other than Prescott???


Key Players & Metrics (2025 Season):

• Dak Prescott (DAL):
  Has boasted the lowest off-target rate and high completion percentage (around 69-70%), showing exceptional precision.
  
  
• • Geno Smith (SEA):
    Led the league in lowest bad-target percentage (10.5%), indicating excellent ball placement away from defenders.
  • Drake Maye (NE):
    Showed extremely high efficiency and accuracy in efficient outings, a top-tier rookie.
  • Joe Burrow (CIN):
    Known for consistency and clean mechanics, making all his throws look similar and precise.
  • Patrick Mahomes (KC):
    While sometimes noted for more creative throws, he's also an "underneath assassin" and among the top in overall efficiency

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

"I still don't believe he belongs in a professional football league."


This is straight up unhinged and completely divorced from reality.

Um....calm down. It's Lee. Legendary troll. You aren't helping.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Do you watch ANY OTHER QBs other than Prescott???


Key Players & Metrics (2025 Season):

• Dak Prescott (DAL):
  Has boasted the lowest off-target rate and high completion percentage (around 69-70%), showing exceptional precision.
  
  
• • Geno Smith (SEA):
    Led the league in lowest bad-target percentage (10.5%), indicating excellent ball placement away from defenders.
  • Drake Maye (NE):
    Showed extremely high efficiency and accuracy in efficient outings, a top-tier rookie.
  • Joe Burrow (CIN):
    Known for consistency and clean mechanics, making all his throws look similar and precise.
  • Patrick Mahomes (KC):
    While sometimes noted for more creative throws, he's also an "underneath assassin" and among the top in overall efficiency

Look at me...I can crunch stats or make meaningless observations like nobody's business.

 

[plasticman]

No. It was a 1975 regular-season game. Both teams were 8-4 and the winner was going to make the playoffs. Staubach was 2 of 12 in the first half and quite frankly pretty awful. He had a lot of overthrows, including one for an interception. Still, Golden Richards turned an out pass into a TD by shaking off a defender and racing for a TD and punt coverage recovered a fumble that Dallas was able to turn into a score with several running plays, including a QB draw for the TD by Staubach (on which he had to leave the game temporarily with bruised ribs ... and, as the announcers pointed out, he played better with them than without them).

Can't remember the final score at the moment, but it ended up like 17-10, with Washington only scoring a TD after the interception.

I don't go back in time and watch losses. I see enough of those today.

Yeah, what was I thinking? Every Washington game started out 10-0 or 14-3 back then.

 

[GINeric]

Last game, even though it was a loss, Dak only got loopy on one play- the screen pass/lateral he threw under pressure.
But the rest of the game, Dak looked like a quarterback. He didn't get happy feet and throw the errant interceptions he usually does when he gets nervous.
The interceptions he threw were because the receivers were tightly covered and the bounce went against the Cowboys. The Lions were sitting on the slant routes because they knew the Cowboys like them.
That's on the coaching, not Dak.
If he can keep his poise the Cowboys might actually win a game against a good team.

Well I assume you've missed games that Dak played in for 10 years and have shown that they've won games against good teams before.

As a matter of fact, Dak was playing in the game that Cowboys beat the two most recent participants in the latest Superbowl. With that said, Dak helped the Cowboys overcome a 21 point Eagles lead and won the game. The Eagles are a good team that are currently the reigning Superbowl Champions with a better record than ours.

So yeah, the proof is in the pudding that we can beat good teams. You obviously missed the Chiefs and Eagles games but YouTube is your friend.

 

[GINeric]

No, he is not a top 5 quarterback.
He should not be in the NFL at all.

Dak's production has currently got him in the top 5. So as much as I respect your opinion, its not lining up with real life facts.

Then you said, he should not be in the league at all.....

Dak isn't elite, but he's a very good quarterback who has been ranked in the top 10 his whole career during seasons he's finished healthy, he's become an All-Pro and MVP candidate, he's currently playing at the top 3, top 5 level.

So with that said what other quarterbacks are there who are perennial top ten, became an All-Pro and MVP and are currently playing top 3, top 5 football right who you feel shouldn't be in the NFL??

Dak couldn't possibly be the first one in history with these accomplishments that you feel shouldn't have been in the league or shouldn't currently be in league, correct?

 

[kramskoi]

Look at me...I can crunch stats or make meaningless observations like nobody's business.

Again...do you watch any quarterback other than Prescott? Because THAT is how you present. My putative, "meaningless observations" are at least based on statistical facts. NOT "feelings"...or dubious "eye tests".

There isn't a quarterback in this league that doesn't throw high, wide, and low at times. NOT ONE...including Mahomes. Not one that doesn't throw INTs. Not one that doesn't miss receivers.

It's the National Football League...NOT the National Fantasy League.

 

[acr731]

So, the league’s most prolific passer this year…should not even be in the league. The all-time most prolific passer in Cowboys history..:should not be in the league.

Make it make sense. Someone.

Anyone.

'The leagues most prolific passer' - 6-6-1 record so far for 2025 (very impressive, makes me want to run out and buy some Dak underoos)

'The all-time most prolific passer in Cowboys history' - 2-5 playoff record.

Those losers names Staubach and Aikman are supposed to be bowing to Dak, right? Maybe give him a curtsy?

 

[Shotgun Dave]

'The leagues most prolific passer' - 6-6-1 record so far for 2025 (very impressive, makes me want to run out and buy some Dak underoos)

'The all-time most prolific passer in Cowboys history' - 2-5 playoff record.

Those losers names Staubach and Aikman are supposed to be bowing to Dak, right? Maybe give him a curtsy?

Sigh.

Did I say he was 13-0? No. Did I say he was better than Staubach or Aikman? No.

It’s just facts, man. What I said…just facts.

It’s a looooooooooong way from asking Staubach and Aikman to bow to Dak and saying Dak shouldn’t even be in the NFL.

Does everyone have DDS?

What I posted? Actual, real-life fats, dude.

Argue with reality, not me.

 

[Shotgun Dave]

Dak's production has currently got him in the top 5. So as much as I respect your opinion, its not lining up with real life facts.

Then you said, he should not be in the league at all.....

Dak isn't elite, but he's a very good quarterback who has been ranked in the top 10 his whole career during seasons he's finished healthy, he's become an All-Pro and MVP candidate, he's currently playing at the top 3, top 5 level.

So with that said what other quarterbacks are there who are perennial top ten, became an All-Pro and MVP and are currently playing top 3, top 5 football right who you feel shouldn't be in the NFL??

Dak couldn't possibly be the first one in history with these accomplishments that you feel shouldn't have been in the league or shouldn't currently be in league, correct?

Dude, these people are living in an alternate reality. Love Dak or hate him, facts are facts. They refuse to accept them, and engage in logic fallacy after logic fallacy to prove they’re right.

 

[shabazz]

Yeah he's a top 5 QB in the league to anyone who understands football, thanks stop making threads.

He has had a few seasons where he plays like a top 5 qb, but Allen, Lamar, Mahomes and Burrow are in that top tier in the regular season.

Being 2nd tier with the likes of Stafford and Goff is no disgrace whatsoever and Rayne is having a great season so far.

Hopefully he'll get a good enough defense again so he can prove himself in the playoffs and get that narrative changed

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

"I still don't believe he belongs in a professional football league."


This is straight up unhinged and completely divorced from reality.

she is a drama queen. right?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

'The leagues most prolific passer' - 6-6-1 record so far for 2025 (very impressive, makes me want to run out and buy some Dak underoos)

'The all-time most prolific passer in Cowboys history' - 2-5 playoff record.

Those losers names Staubach and Aikman are supposed to be bowing to Dak, right? Maybe give him a curtsy?

44, 44, 40, 37....

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Again...do you watch any quarterback other than Prescott? Because THAT is how you present. My putative, "meaningless observations" are at least based on statistical facts. NOT "feelings"...or dubious "eye tests".

There isn't a quarterback in this league that doesn't throw high, wide, and low at times. NOT ONE...including Mahomes. Not one that doesn't throw INTs. Not one that doesn't miss receivers.

It's the National Football League...NOT the National Fantasy League.

You took random stats and observations, put them in bullet points to "present:". Facts are facts, sure...it's what you DO with them that matters. Not many people around these parts have true scientific statistical anyalsys credentials. You can't just puill out random observations, and then claim you're not biased.

The fact that you mock "eye test" is very telling. So why do you even watch football?...with your eyes.

Stats without "eye test" and proper context are biased and meaningless.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Last game, even though it was a loss, Dak only got loopy on one play- the screen pass/lateral he threw under pressure.
But the rest of the game, Dak looked like a quarterback. He didn't get happy feet and throw the errant interceptions he usually does when he gets nervous.
The interceptions he threw were because the receivers were tightly covered and the bounce went against the Cowboys. The Lions were sitting on the slant routes because they knew the Cowboys like them.
That's on the coaching, not Dak.
If he can keep his poise the Cowboys might actually win a game against a good team.

and it only took 10yrs and a quarter-billion dollars to get here! That's some serious value there,,, thankfully our Ace GM managed the team well and has the right pieces in place to take advantage of this quality-quarterbacking window.

 

[GINeric]

Dude, these people are living in an alternate reality. Love Dak or hate him, facts are facts. They refuse to accept them, and engage in logic fallacy after logic fallacy to prove they’re right.

Im surprised that they really allow themselves to publicly type things that make them appear to be really stupid, uninformed, out of touch with reality, and just plain, flat out dumb.

People are really ok with flaunting extremely low IQs publicly. This is a different world.

 

[TwentyOne]

Last game, even though it was a loss, Dak only got loopy on one play- the screen pass/lateral he threw under pressure.
But the rest of the game, Dak looked like a quarterback. He didn't get happy feet and throw the errant interceptions he usually does when he gets nervous.
The interceptions he threw were because the receivers were tightly covered and the bounce went against the Cowboys. The Lions were sitting on the slant routes because they knew the Cowboys like them.
That's on the coaching, not Dak.
If he can keep his poise the Cowboys might actually win a game against a good team.

I give him cedit too.

A guy with essentially no talent for the position was able to be one of the highest players.

Says a lot about the league and what it really stands for.