I Hope Barry Bonds Hits 756 Tonight

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I am so tired of the nightly "chase" of the HR record.

Get it over with.
 

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Do you think Griffey has enough years left to pass him?

I know everyone thinks it's going to be ARod, and I guess he will, but I'd like to see Junior break it first.
 

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Hostile;1578208 said:
I am so tired of the nightly "chase" of the HR record.

Get it over with.

Couldn't agree with you more.

The sooner he passes it the better.
 

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Danny White;1578238 said:
Do you think Griffey has enough years left to pass him?

I know everyone thinks it's going to be ARod, and I guess he will, but I'd like to see Junior break it first.
Yes, I do if he stays healthy and I would too.
 

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Danny White;1578238 said:
Do you think Griffey has enough years left to pass him?

I know everyone thinks it's going to be ARod, and I guess he will, but I'd like to see Junior break it first.


Here's my breakdown of Junior. #1, obviously, he can't stay healthy. In the 6 years between 2001 and 2006 here are his 6 year total numbers.

Games played: 554
Average games played: 92
HRs hit: 125
Average per year: Just under 21

Now he's been healthy this year and hear are his "Projected" numbers.

Games: 154
HRs: 39

Not bad. Here's the catch. He turns 38 in November. Even if he plays 4 more full seasons, stays totally healthy and plays an average of 154 games, and hits 39 HRs per year, he'll still only have 745 HRs. LOT's of BIG IFs there for Jr. I don't think he stands a chance because he simply won't stay healthy. He'd need one season of playing 155 games and hit 50 HRs to stand a chance. The only reason Bonds is there is because of the crazy vidoe game numbers he put up in 2001. His average HRs per season, take away 2001 is 34. He packed 2 years in one with, IMHO, the juiced ball. By all rights he should still be at least 20-30 something away. My sincere hope is someone breaks it because of the roids issue. ARod is the best hope IMO.

ARod Just turned 32 in July. He didn't play hardly at all his first 2 big league seasons. Take them out and his HR average is nearly 42 per year over the last 11 years(1996-2006) and he's on pace for 52 this year. That would bring his averag up to 42 in the last 12 years. So using that average, and figuring he'll have to play till he's 40, 8 more full season of 42 per year would put him at (provided he hits 16 more this year) 852 HRs after the 2015 season :) Even with 7 more good years he has a fantastic shot, provided Bonds doesn't play next year and hit another 32 like he's projcted to this year. Bonds has said in the last couple days he wants to play next year:rolleyes: so stay tuned, The record could go over 800 if he does.
 

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Big Dakota;1578287 said:
Here's my breakdown of Junior. #1, obviously, he can't stay healthy. In the 6 years between 2001 and 2006 here are his 6 year total numbers.

Games played: 554
Average games played: 92
HRs hit: 125
Average per year: Just under 21

Now he's been healthy this year and hear are his "Projected" numbers.

Games: 154
HRs: 39

Not bad. Here's the catch. He turns 38 in November. Even if he plays 4 more full seasons, stays totally healthy and plays an average of 154 games, and hits 39 HRs per year, he'll still only have 745 HRs. LOT's of BIG IFs there for Jr. I don't think he stands a chance because he simply won't stay healthy. He'd need one season of playing 155 games and hit 50 HRs to stand a chance. The only reason Bonds is there is because of the crazy vidoe game numbers he put up in 2001. His average HRs per season, take away 2001 is 34. He packed 2 years in one with, IMHO, the juiced ball. By all rights he should still be at least 20-30 something away. My sincere hope is someone breaks it because of the roids issue. ARod is the best hope IMO.

ARod Just turned 32 in July. He didn't play hardly at all his first 2 big league seasons. Take them out and his HR average is nearly 42 per year over the last 11 years(1996-2006) and he's on pace for 52 this year. That would bring his averag up to 42 in the last 12 years. So using that average, and figuring he'll have to play till he's 40, 8 more full season of 42 per year would put him at (provided he hits 16 more this year) 852 HRs after the 2015 season :) Even with 7 more good years he has a fantastic shot, provided Bonds doesn't play next year and hit another 32 like he's projcted to this year. Bonds has said in the last couple days he wants to play next year:rolleyes: so stay tuned, The record could go over 800 if he does.

Wow, thanks! Good analysis. :)
 

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Hostile;1578208 said:
I am so tired of the nightly "chase" of the HR record.

Get it over with.

I couldn't disagree more... the longer this takes, the funnier it gets...
 

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Danny White;1578238 said:
Do you think Griffey has enough years left to pass him?

I know everyone thinks it's going to be ARod, and I guess he will, but I'd like to see Junior break it first.

I'm a big Griffey and Cincy fan but I can't see him breaking it. I'd love to see it happen though. I can't stand Bonds and would love to see someone break the record after he does.....even if it's done by a Yankee :puke:
 

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Albert Pujols would have a good shot if he wasn't already 43 years old.
 

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Big Dakota;1578287 said:
Here's my breakdown of Junior. #1, obviously, he can't stay healthy. In the 6 years between 2001 and 2006 here are his 6 year total numbers.

Games played: 554
Average games played: 92
HRs hit: 125
Average per year: Just under 21

Now he's been healthy this year and hear are his "Projected" numbers.

Games: 154
HRs: 39

Not bad. Here's the catch. He turns 38 in November. Even if he plays 4 more full seasons, stays totally healthy and plays an average of 154 games, and hits 39 HRs per year, he'll still only have 745 HRs. LOT's of BIG IFs there for Jr. I don't think he stands a chance because he simply won't stay healthy. He'd need one season of playing 155 games and hit 50 HRs to stand a chance. The only reason Bonds is there is because of the crazy vidoe game numbers he put up in 2001. His average HRs per season, take away 2001 is 34. He packed 2 years in one with, IMHO, the juiced ball. By all rights he should still be at least 20-30 something away. My sincere hope is someone breaks it because of the roids issue. ARod is the best hope IMO.

ARod Just turned 32 in July. He didn't play hardly at all his first 2 big league seasons. Take them out and his HR average is nearly 42 per year over the last 11 years(1996-2006) and he's on pace for 52 this year. That would bring his averag up to 42 in the last 12 years. So using that average, and figuring he'll have to play till he's 40, 8 more full season of 42 per year would put him at (provided he hits 16 more this year) 852 HRs after the 2015 season :) Even with 7 more good years he has a fantastic shot, provided Bonds doesn't play next year and hit another 32 like he's projcted to this year. Bonds has said in the last couple days he wants to play next year:rolleyes: so stay tuned, The record could go over 800 if he does.

Good analysis.

I disagree that the only reason Bonds is near the record is because of his 73 HRs in 2001. The guy strung together some big HR years. Sure they are probably chemically induced, but it wasn't because of one year that he is near this record. If anything, it is because of 2005 when he missed most of the season due to injury that he has not already broken the record.

He had three 40+ HR seasons prior to 2000. He hit 46 in 1993 his first year in San Fran, 42 in 1996 and 40 in 1997.

49 in 2000
At age 36 when you expect players to be at their best :D This is also the year the Giants moved to AT&T Park(formerly known as PacBell), which was tailored to Barry Bonds.
73 in 2001
46 in 2002
45 in 2003
45 in 2004
5 in 2005

His average of 43.8 HRs per season over six seasons is the biggest reason he is breaking this record.

I don't think Griffey has a chance. His age and injury history just don't point to him being able to put up those numbers. ARod has a very good chance, but anything can happen.
 

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I'd rather he just fall into a coma and never play baseball again.
 

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peplaw06;1578837 said:
Ryan Howard. :D

The only problem with Howard is time. He's already 28 years old and only has 112 career homers. He has 30 so far this year. Let's assume he averages 50 homers a year (including 20 more this season). This would put him at breaking the (current) record in 13 years at age 41.

And that's assuming Bonds doesn't push the number to 800.
 

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joseephuss;1578603 said:
Good analysis.

I disagree that the only reason Bonds is near the record is because of his 73 HRs in 2001. The guy strung together some big HR years. Sure they are probably chemically induced, but it wasn't because of one year that he is near this record. If anything, it is because of 2005 when he missed most of the season due to injury that he has not already broken the record.

He had three 40+ HR seasons prior to 2000. He hit 46 in 1993 his first year in San Fran, 42 in 1996 and 40 in 1997.

49 in 2000
At age 36 when you expect players to be at their best :D This is also the year the Giants moved to AT&T Park(formerly known as PacBell), which was tailored to Barry Bonds.
73 in 2001
46 in 2002
45 in 2003
45 in 2004
5 in 2005

His average of 43.8 HRs per season over six seasons is the biggest reason he is breaking this record.

I don't think Griffey has a chance. His age and injury history just don't point to him being able to put up those numbers. ARod has a very good chance, but anything can happen.

I don't know about this. Griffy is going to get traded by Cincy eventually. If he goes to the American League, say a ball park like Fenway, he could break the record. He's rejuvinated, physically, according to many people. He could easily play another 8 seasons as a DH if he went to the American League. Cincy is going to trade him. They almost did this season. I would not be surprised to see him go to the American League and eventually break the record. If he doesn't have to play the field, that's only going to improve his hitting IMO.
 

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Yeagermeister;1578827 said:
I can't stand him but I don't wish him any harm.

That's kinda why I choose comas in situations like this. No real pain, they can just lie there peacefully, yet can't infect me with whatever it is that they do to bother me. Skip Bayless is another coma candidate. I like it.
 

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tomson75;1578886 said:
That's kinda why I choose comas in situations like this. No real pain, they can just lie there peacefully, yet can't infect me with whatever it is that they do to bother me. Skip Bayless is another coma candidate. I like it.

I just wish they had let Tui introduce him to the blue water. :D
 

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I don't think Griffey has enough years left to break whatever the number Bonds end up putting up but A-Rod, if healthy has a very good shot at breaking Bonds' all time number.
 

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03EBZ06;1578927 said:
I don't think Griffey has enough years left to break whatever the number Bonds end up putting up but A-Rod, if healthy has a very good shot at breaking Bonds' all time number.


AT this rate, if Bonds hits 10 more dingers before the end of the season, he'll be lucky. The numbe Bonds posts is going to be like 765 or so. After this year, I think Bonds is done in San Francisco. They can't afford to keep him on the team. In the National, you have to play your position and Bonds really can't anymore. Nobody is going to trade for Bonds after he breaks the record because he's not well liked. I think he will probably retire after this year. I think KGJr. can catch him if he gets traded to the American and lands in a hitters park.
 
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