I Just Watched All Of Wentz's Week 3 Throws

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Wentz did that against Pittsburgh. It's hard not to be impressed.

What must the Rams be thinking?
Honestly, the media hype over Pitt's D is highly exaggerated. They're really no better than us. I haven't been impressed with Pitt's D for about 3 seasons now.
 

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If we can get Zach Martin resigned, we'll have our O-line core, we'll have our QB of the future, our RB of the future, and then we can get to work on that defense. I believe if we give Marinelli the pieces, he can produce something special.
 

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I'm impressed with Wentz, just being honest. I don't want that guy in our division, but he's here and Dak is better. I've read this whole thread, took me a day or so, but one thing that no one has mentioned that I want to throw out is crunch time. Wentz has won 3 games but none of those games were close. If I remember correctly they beat the Browns pretty good and the Steelers, I think they beat the Bears pretty good but I'm feeling too lazy to look it up. Wentz scares me because he hasn't flopped and is putting up good numbers. but I want to see him run a 2 minute drill to win the game. I want to see him be in a close game and see how he handles the pressure.

The most I've been impressed with Dak is the Giants loss. Yes the Giants loss. We lost by 1 point and arguably should have won if Bryant holds on for the TD and Beasely catches his TD pass. but we've already discussed that. The moment I saw Dak as the future of the franchise is the 2 minute drill in the Giants game. His body language and calmness and confidence was there. We did not lose that 2 minute drill and the game because of QB play. Dunbar and Twill played stupidly in that 2 minute drill. But for Dak doing a 2 minute drill in his first start and putting the team in a place to win is impressive.

Until Wentz is behind in a game and he's having his receivers drop TD passes and his running game isn't doing much and his defense sucks and he has to shoulder the team and puts the team in a chance to win the game, then I'll say he's up there with Dak. Until then Dak gets the nod from me.

Wentz is playing good football for a rookie. Dak is playing good football, to the point that people, fans, the media forget he's a rookie.
 

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And boy am I annoyed. Not that Wentz had a reasonably good game.

I'm annoyed because having not seen the game and only seeing the early game thread ON THIS BOARD, I was led to believe Wentz was having one of the best rookie performances of all time.

Now that I watched all the throws, I see TWO impressive plays. The scramble to hit Sproles and the last pass to Matthews over the shoulder. Yes, there were a few middle of the field routes he hit and he avoided pressure on occasion BUT THE MAJORITY of his throws were screens and dump offs! On top of that he has 2-3 passes that could have been picked and were ill advised altogether.

It was a good performance. But it WASN'T as good as the performance our own rookie QB had a few hours later. NO HOMER. Seriously, the scramble that Wentz had to hit Sproles was duplicated on three occasions by Dax, one for a completed sidelines pass and the other two for scramble first downs. On top of that Dax had very few dump offs and ZERO passes that were in danger zones for possible INTS.

Yes, Wentz looks to have a slightly stronger arm, but Dax has much LESS movement in the pocket, a place where Wentz is SUPPOSEDLY better.

Dak is more efficient with body effort before and during throws and during runs.

Both players played great for rookies. Dax played slightly better. But SOMEHOW on this board Wentz gets more love.

Unbelievable. Dallas is one of the worst football cities in America.

Wentz had a "reasonably good" game and you claim you're not a HOMER? LOL He only completed 74.2% of his passes for 301 yards and 2 TD's with a passer rating of 125.9 against the Steelers defense and you call that a "reasonably good" game? What you're doing has HOMER written all over it. Any Philly FAN could cut down Dak's performance from last week the same way. You were led to believe that Wentz was having one of the best rookie performances by people who get paid to talk football. Go find an NFL expert who thinks Wentz's performance last week was just "reasonably good." Both Wentz and Dak are having great rookie seasons and have looked like seasoned veterans.

Neither one has a single turnover in 3 games which is unheard of for a couple of rookie QBs. Both QBs have thrown for almost the same exact yardage but Wentz has thrown 4 more TDs and has a higher passer rating. Cowboy FANS will look for everything to try and tear Wentz's game down while propping up Dak's game. I've seen every QBs game from Peyton Manning to Tom Brady to Aaron Rodgers get torn down here to make Romo look better. There can't be a more delusional FANBASE than the Cowboys have. Some here simply can't find it within themselves due to their loyalty to the Cowboys to admit an opposing player had a great game.
 
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And boy am I annoyed. Not that Wentz had a reasonably good game.

I'm annoyed because having not seen the game and only seeing the early game thread ON THIS BOARD, I was led to believe Wentz was having one of the best rookie performances of all time.

Now that I watched all the throws, I see TWO impressive plays. The scramble to hit Sproles and the last pass to Matthews over the shoulder. Yes, there were a few middle of the field routes he hit and he avoided pressure on occasion BUT THE MAJORITY of his throws were screens and dump offs! On top of that he has 2-3 passes that could have been picked and were ill advised altogether.

It was a good performance. But it WASN'T as good as the performance our own rookie QB had a few hours later. NO HOMER. Seriously, the scramble that Wentz had to hit Sproles was duplicated on three occasions by Dax, one for a completed sidelines pass and the other two for scramble first downs. On top of that Dax had very few dump offs and ZERO passes that were in danger zones for possible INTS.

Yes, Wentz looks to have a slightly stronger arm, but Dax has much LESS movement in the pocket, a place where Wentz is SUPPOSEDLY better.

Dak is more efficient with body effort before and during throws and during runs.

Both players played great for rookies. Dax played slightly better. But SOMEHOW on this board Wentz gets more love.

Unbelievable. Dallas is one of the worst football cities in America.

yap, agreed and a P.S. when did homer become a derision on a team message board.
Now that is odd.
 

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And boy am I annoyed. Not that Wentz had a reasonably good game.

I'm annoyed because having not seen the game and only seeing the early game thread ON THIS BOARD, I was led to believe Wentz was having one of the best rookie performances of all time.

Now that I watched all the throws, I see TWO impressive plays. The scramble to hit Sproles and the last pass to Matthews over the shoulder. Yes, there were a few middle of the field routes he hit and he avoided pressure on occasion BUT THE MAJORITY of his throws were screens and dump offs! On top of that he has 2-3 passes that could have been picked and were ill advised altogether.

It was a good performance. But it WASN'T as good as the performance our own rookie QB had a few hours later. NO HOMER. Seriously, the scramble that Wentz had to hit Sproles was duplicated on three occasions by Dax, one for a completed sidelines pass and the other two for scramble first downs. On top of that Dax had very few dump offs and ZERO passes that were in danger zones for possible INTS.

Yes, Wentz looks to have a slightly stronger arm, but Dax has much LESS movement in the pocket, a place where Wentz is SUPPOSEDLY better.

Dak is more efficient with body effort before and during throws and during runs.

Both players played great for rookies. Dax played slightly better. But SOMEHOW on this board Wentz gets more love.

Unbelievable. Dallas is one of the worst football cities in America.

I love me some Dax
 

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Only because Romo's got several years left.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...razy-but-hes-the-nfls-best-qb-through-week-3/

Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz is off to the best three-game start that Pro Football Focus has ever recorded from a rookie QB in 11 seasons of grading players. His 90.5 grade (on a 0-100 scale) is not only better than the three-game starts of each of the star rookies from 2012’s renowned QB class (Indianapolis’ Andrew Luck, Washington’s Robert Griffin III and Seattle’s Russell Wilson, all of whom led their teams to the playoffs in Year 1, and by season’s end ranked among PFF’s top 15 quarterback grades), but it is the top mark among all QBs so far for the 2016 NFL season.

Yeah, it sounds like he's nothing special.
 

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Wentz had a "reasonably good" game and you claim you're not a HOMER? LOL He only completed 74.2% of his passes for 301 yards and 2 TD's with a passer rating of 125.9 against the Steelers defense and you call that a "reasonably good" game? What you're doing has HOMER written all over it. Any Philly FAN could cut down Dak's performance from last week the same way. You were led to believe that Wentz was having one of the best rookie performances by people who get paid to talk football. Go find an NFL expert who thinks Wentz's performance last week was just "reasonably good." Both Wentz and Dak are having great rookie seasons and have looked like seasoned veterans.

Neither one has a single turnover in 3 games which is unheard of for a couple of rookie QBs. Both QBs have thrown for almost the same exact yardage but Wentz has thrown 4 more TDs and has a higher passer rating. Cowboy FANS will look for everything to try and tear Wentz's game down while propping up Dak's game. I've seen every QBs game from Peyton Manning to Tom Brady to Aaron Rodgers get torn down here to make Romo look better. There can't be a more delusional FANBASE than the Cowboys have. Some here simply can't find it within themselves due to their loyalty to the Cowboys to admit an opposing player had a great game.
Boy, you're reading comprehension is atrocious. My entire post was about the LOVE Wentz is getting on this board over Dak. Nothing about pundits. I dont care about pundits. I think a Cowboy's board should give at least as much respect and love to its own rookie QB whom is playing at least as good if not better than Wentz. You proved my point. Nice job.
 

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Overall, I honestly don't believe there's been any serious lack of appreciation being missing for Dak on this forum. He's had and continues to have plenty of love and recognition here. On top of that, all of this BS about who is the better QB at this point in their careers is highly premature to begin with. There hasn't been enough of a generous sampling as yet of their capabilities to evaluate them.

It takes much longer than this to attain an accurate picture of what any QB's talent level deserves to be rated as. Let's keep it real, folks! Dak and Wentz are both turning in admirable performances at this embryonic stage of their careers. All of this jealousy over who gets the most credit is clearly silly and somewhat childish to boot. The Cowboys and the Eagles are both fortunate to have what they got as QBs. Let's leave it at that.
 

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And boy am I annoyed. Not that Wentz had a reasonably good game.

I'm annoyed because having not seen the game and only seeing the early game thread ON THIS BOARD, I was led to believe Wentz was having one of the best rookie performances of all time.

Now that I watched all the throws, I see TWO impressive plays. The scramble to hit Sproles and the last pass to Matthews over the shoulder. Yes, there were a few middle of the field routes he hit and he avoided pressure on occasion BUT THE MAJORITY of his throws were screens and dump offs! On top of that he has 2-3 passes that could have been picked and were ill advised altogether.

It was a good performance. But it WASN'T as good as the performance our own rookie QB had a few hours later. NO HOMER. Seriously, the scramble that Wentz had to hit Sproles was duplicated on three occasions by Dax, one for a completed sidelines pass and the other two for scramble first downs. On top of that Dax had very few dump offs and ZERO passes that were in danger zones for possible INTS.

Yes, Wentz looks to have a slightly stronger arm, but Dax has much LESS movement in the pocket, a place where Wentz is SUPPOSEDLY better.

Dak is more efficient with body effort before and during throws and during runs.

Both players played great for rookies. Dax played slightly better. But SOMEHOW on this board Wentz gets more love.

Unbelievable. Dallas is one of the worst football cities in America.
This. We have a sucky contingent of fans and media who doesn't like the cowboys. Plus some of our fans aren't very bright. How difficult is it to be quiet when we are on offense? Talk about home field disadvantage.
 

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This. We have a sucky contingent of fans and media who doesn't like the cowboys. Plus some of our fans aren't very bright. How difficult is it to be quiet when we are on offense? Talk about home field disadvantage.
+1
 

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I'm more impressed with the play calling then Wentz. Wentz does look good, but I give credit to the offensive scheme itself. They seems to get guys open often and make it easy for Wentz.
 
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