I love Jerry!

Hard not to get involved.....I agree, id be more diligent when hiring a HC. I do like the MM hire, though. Time will tell.


Agreed time will tell. Would just feel better if they took a little time and cast a wider net then made their best decision. Very possible it still would have been Mike and that's ok.
 
I’d be just like him, hell even worse. I would however hire the best front office money could buy, coaching, etc. But, I’d be right in the middle of it all, I’d delegate, and listen to my peeps, but I’d have the last say on everything! I’d have a star shaped swimming pool with a helipad in the backyard, I’d fly in with a cheerleader entrance everywhere, hell I’d be terrible… But my 1 of a kind front office would save my a**.
My man! :lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:
 
I would be more like Jerry. Not sure if I would hire a GM or not. But I would hire enough knowledgeable people, that it would seem like a GM (see Will McClay).

I owned my own company, and managed it for the most part. I would appoint an employee as a "manager" except for the money part. I always took care of that.
It never really worked out all that well to have a manager, as it was a small business. As I still made the final decision on most matters.
 
If I owned a team I would be just like Jerry. I love his passion and his drive. I appreciate the way he treats his players. I don't think he gets involved with the coaching as much as many of us may think.
What kind of owner would you be?
It's refreshing to see someone post something positive about Jerry. It was very fashionable for Cowboy haters to bash Jerry and use him against us fans when berating us for our choice of teams; he used to go onto the field in the 4th quarters, and then the plastic surgery. Then it became very fashionable for Cowboy fans themselves to constantly bash Jones for his being involved in the draft, seeming to care more about the stadium, not winning and his 1% status and his yacht. I understand the criticisms but I kind of like him. I'll miss him when he passes.
 
I couldn't do that, I feel I know football and I wouldn't let anyone else run my investment. He went all in when he bought the team. Most other owners buy a team as an investment or a hobby. He put ALL of his money in this team.

I get it, i don't fully agree with you but totally respect the view.

My challenge is that i am delineating between the brand / advertising component and the player personnel component....I think Jerry is phenomenal at the brand / advertising piece but mediocre at the player / personnel component....which is where the GM role comes in. In this specific case, the old adage of surrounding yourself with the smartest people would really behoove him and potentially make his investment that much better.

I think he could still run the investment but might fill in gaps in his knowledge base with a GM...but get your view on not wanting to let anyone else run the investment
 
I really admire his passion and have never believed that winning isn't his #1 priority. I know people hate that he focuses on marketing so much but it just shows how invested he is in the team and the league. I've never felt like his focus on marketing and the league came at the expense of winning, I think we haven't won because of his refusal to fire Garrett and possibly now the MM hire (but I'm willing to give MM this season at least), and in some cases just some straight up bad luck (see 2014 and 2016 seasons). He's certainly put together multiple rosters capable of winning a championship in the last 10 years and has tried to change and adapt with how the team handles free agency and the draft, maybe even going too far the other way with FA. My hope is that it will be that much sweeter when we win one in the next 3-4 years after this 25 year drought and Jerry can ride off into the sunset.
I think Jerry benefitted from Jimmy's knowledge of college players during the Jimmy Johnson years, but when Jimmy left Jerry assumed he could do it himself and took full charge of the GM position then.

After many years of bad and missed picks along with Jerry getting older and wanting another Super Bowl, he started backing off unilateral GM decisions and switched to a committee approach.

However, because Jerry inserted himself so blatantly as the GM in front of the camera and with every reporter for so long and because he continues to comment publicly on internal discussions and decisions that are made by coaches and other people, it continuously makes it look like he's the sole decision maker, which I think he wants so he can claim credit if/when the Cowboys win another Super Bowl.

In other words, I firmly believe he has stepped back considerably from being the lone decision maker but given his history of letting everyone know he was the person who made the decisions and with his continuing need to be front-and-center with the media, it is hard to blame fans for assuming he is still the cause of failed season after season.

I like Jerry-the-owner a lot but I have never been a Jerry-the-GM fan.

The sad thing is that if Jerry had announced his retirement from being the GM years ago and hired a real GM, a lot more fans would probably like him right now.

As it is, fans who are angry at 25+ years of failure are more inclined to dislike and complain about Jerry (who can blame them) because of his GM performance while ignoring anything he has done or accomplished as an owner.

Jerry has done so much for the Cowboys and the NFL since buying the team, but if the Cowboys fail to win another Super Bowl in his lifetime, most people will remember him more for his failures than his successes despite him stepping back from the lead GM role years ago all because he wanted to publicly keep the GM title and not give that title to someone else like Will McClay.
 
I think Jerry benefitted from Jimmy's knowledge of college players during the Jimmy Johnson years, but when Jimmy left Jerry assumed he could do it himself and took full charge of the GM position then.

After many years of bad and missed picks along with Jerry getting older and wanting another Super Bowl, he started backing off unilateral GM decisions and switched to a committee approach.

However, because Jerry inserted himself so blatantly as the GM in front of the camera and with every reporter for so long and because he continues to comment publicly on internal discussions and decisions that are made by coaches and other people, it continuously makes it look like he's the sole decision maker, which I think he wants so he can claim credit if/when the Cowboys win another Super Bowl.

In other words, I firmly believe he has stepped back considerably from being the lone decision maker but given his history of letting everyone know he was the person who made the decisions and with his continuing need to be front-and-center with the media, it is hard to blame fans for assuming he is still the cause of failed season after season.

I like Jerry-the-owner a lot but I have never been a Jerry-the-GM fan.

The sad thing is that if Jerry had announced his retirement from being the GM years ago and hired a real GM, a lot more fans would probably like him right now.
I agree that Jerry has gone to more of a team or committee approach to player personnel, but Jerry still has veto power.

It took all of Stephen's influence as his kid to move off of Johnny Manziel. He still has his inclinations of the splash move instead of the sensible one. It has held this franchise back for a quarter of a century and counting.

And my fear is that it will continue when Stephen takes over.
 
I agree that Jerry has gone to more of a team or committee approach to player personnel, but Jerry still has veto power.

It took all of Stephen's influence as his kid to move off of Johnny Manziel. He still has his inclinations of the splash move instead of the sensible one. It has held this franchise back for a quarter of a century and counting.

And my fear is that it will continue when Stephen takes over.
True, but every NFL owner retains veto power.

Jerry's just one of the few who regularly reminds everyone that he has it and many suspect he has used it a few times as well.
 
id be one that hires a GM....

but yes agreed, love his passion as an owner.
Mclay is the real the gm , jerry likes the title and feels good being called it, thats where it ends..

when will you fans get that...maybe a new scout team and Mclay be fired next year if this is bad.

draft says we are evaluating players pretty well..
 
I would run everything myself because no one on earth is smarter than me.

I played guard for Arkansas about a hundred years ago, so I'm fully qualified.

I mean, maybe I'll call an old buddy to help get things going, but his role will be minimal compared to what I do.

Then I'll be on TV and everyone will know who I am!!

Fans should consider themselves lucky to have the advantage of me being able to come back for more years after year.
 
I really admire his passion and have never believed that winning isn't his #1 priority. I know people hate that he focuses on marketing so much but it just shows how invested he is in the team and the league. I've never felt like his focus on marketing and the league came at the expense of winning, I think we haven't won because of his refusal to fire Garrett and possibly now the MM hire (but I'm willing to give MM this season at least), and in some cases just some straight up bad luck (see 2014 and 2016 seasons). He's certainly put together multiple rosters capable of winning a championship in the last 10 years and has tried to change and adapt with how the team handles free agency and the draft, maybe even going too far the other way with FA. My hope is that it will be that much sweeter when we win one in the next 3-4 years after this 25 year drought and Jerry can ride off into the sunset.
agreed
 
If I owned a team I would be just like Jerry. I love his passion and his drive. I appreciate the way he treats his players. I don't think he gets involved with the coaching as much as many of us may think.
What kind of owner would you be?
You mean you would suck as a GM but insist on maintaining that position after admitting you suck?
 
I'd hire a gm but I'd very much be involved. I'd do a more thorough search for the gm/HC too not just 1 token interview then hire the next guy.
so thats exactly whats going on Will Mclay is the actual gm and jerry's been very involved..hes split up GM responsibility's into 3 positions and hes basically GM in title only..

if someone wants change it will be WM and the scouting department maybe needs to be purged.etc
 
I really admire his passion and have never believed that winning isn't his #1 priority. I know people hate that he focuses on marketing so much but it just shows how invested he is in the team and the league. I've never felt like his focus on marketing and the league came at the expense of winning, I think we haven't won because of his refusal to fire Garrett and possibly now the MM hire (but I'm willing to give MM this season at least), and in some cases just some straight up bad luck (see 2014 and 2016 seasons). He's certainly put together multiple rosters capable of winning a championship in the last 10 years and has tried to change and adapt with how the team handles free agency and the draft, maybe even going too far the other way with FA. My hope is that it will be that much sweeter when we win one in the next 3-4 years after this 25 year drought and Jerry can ride off into the sunset.
Hold it. You think a guy who insists on having a GM who he admits sucks places winning above all else?

I'd like to hear how in the world you came to that conclusion.
 
I really admire his passion and have never believed that winning isn't his #1 priority. I know people hate that he focuses on marketing so much but it just shows how invested he is in the team and the league. I've never felt like his focus on marketing and the league came at the expense of winning, I think we haven't won because of his refusal to fire Garrett and possibly now the MM hire (but I'm willing to give MM this season at least), and in some cases just some straight up bad luck (see 2014 and 2016 seasons). He's certainly put together multiple rosters capable of winning a championship in the last 10 years and has tried to change and adapt with how the team handles free agency and the draft, maybe even going too far the other way with FA. My hope is that it will be that much sweeter when we win one in the next 3-4 years after this 25 year drought and Jerry can ride off into the sunset.

Wow you’re willing to give McCarthy 1 more season? lol
 

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