I think I have a man crush on Bob Sanders

[smarta5150]

The lesson here is that if you run all around the field like the Tazmanian Devil from Looney Tunes, people will think you're great, even if you make mistakes and hardly ever make any big plays. Hey, it works for Troy Polamalu and Bob Sanders.

 

[juck]

If only he could cover. Or make more big plays. Or hit hard. Or tackle.

But hey, he has long hair and runs all around. What a player!

cmon dude he is all over the field,and tackles,and is a ballhawk.

 

[smarta5150]

cmon dude he is all over the field,and tackles,and is a ballhawk.

I think people can argue RW is just as much, if not more all over the field than TP.

TP had 1 sack, 3 INTs and 7 PDEF last season. (RW had 0, 5 and 9)

 

[Eddie]

Sorry, but Man Crush is the gayest term I've ever heard.

 

[AdamJT13]

When he's not pistol whipping somebody, Sean Taylor has been looking pretty good.

Taylor has been much better this season and might finally be playing up to his potential.

Last season, he was abysmal.

 

[Mavs Man]

Isn't a 'man crush' what Godzilla does when he steps on people?

 

[AdamJT13]

cmon dude he is all over the field,and tackles,and is a ballhawk.

He's all over the field because he runs around like a wild man and can freelance in that scheme -- and his hair makes him more noticeable.

But he's not a great tackler, not a big hitter and not much of a ballhawk (Roy has almost twice as many takeaways over the past three seasons). Polamalu is a good player, but he's also overrated.

 

[Wood]

AdamJT....I have respected you for a long time...but you are just losing credibility about Roy Williams. I dont care what the stats show...he is not the player many thought he would be after a terrific rookie year. I think most cowboy fans are smart enough to see what their eyes tell them and there are more questions than answers when it comes to Roy Williams after he signed his extension.

 

[TheCount]

Sorry, but Man Crush is the gayest term I've ever heard.

You should get out more.

Anyway, some of you guys bring up good point about his other weaknesses I didn't mention, I'd obviously take Ed Reed over the guy, I'm not saying he's the best safety in the business but if we had Roy and Bob back there, I'd be more than happy... then again, I'm pretty happy with Ken and Roy back there so go figure.

I actually don't have much of a problem with our safeties, just that every game I see Sanders play, I wish he was in a Cowboys uniform.

He's all over the field because he runs around like a wild man and can freelance in that scheme -- and his hair makes him more noticeable.

But he's not a great tackler, not a big hitter and not much of a ballhawk (Roy has almost twice as many takeaways over the past three seasons). Polamalu is a good player, but he's also overrated.

I remember coaches talking about the fact that they have to game plan for Polamalu because he's always moving and can be anywhere in an instant, so I would assume that he is indeed a factor in games if the coaches say he is. I also think a lot of the reason Roy has so many take aways is because teams know about his supposed weakness in coverage and test him often just like they've been testing Reeves.

 

[Hostile]

AdamJT....I have respected you for a long time...but you are just losing credibility about Roy Williams. I dont care what the stats show...he is not the player many thought he would be after a terrific rookie year. I think most cowboy fans are smart enough to see what their eyes tell them and there are more questions than answers when it comes to Roy Williams after he signed his extension.

I feel exactly the opposite of this, even without Adam's stats. I think Roy is a great Safety and is having a great year that can only get better as we get guys back. And my eyes tell me more than the stats do, and I am smart enough about football to feel confident in what I have been defending.

 

[cowboyeric8]

I feel exactly the opposite of this, even without Adam's stats. I think Roy is a great Safety and is having a great year that can only get better as we get guys back. And my eyes tell me more than the stats do, and I am smart enough about football to feel confident in what I have been defending.

Agreed, honestly there isn't one safety in the league I would trade Roy for.

 

[Rampage]

Always seems to get hurt which would leave us with Killa Keith Davis at SS.

Pass.

exactly! he's a good player if healthy. but that's a big IF. has sanders played a full season yet? NOPE!

 

[Hostile]

Agreed, honestly there isn't one safety in the league I would trade Roy for.

If he was in his prime I might for Brian Dawkins and I really think Laron Landry is going to be amazing. But right now, there's not another Safety in the League that I think is a better option and that includes Bob Sanders, Troy Polamolu, Sean Taylor, Ed Reed, and Adrian Wilson.

The real "Ball Hawk" Darren Sharper may be the lone exception. [/sarcasm off]

 

[cowboyeric8]

Yeah, I think Landry can be an amazing player, just not yet.

 

[TheCount]

Yeah, I think Landry can be an amazing player, just not yet.

Agreed. I think Reggie Nelson (Jaguars safety) will be pretty good too actually, but Landry looks like a stud pick. I was pissed he ended up in our division.

 

[AdamJT13]

AdamJT....I have respected you for a long time...but you are just losing credibility about Roy Williams. I dont care what the stats show...he is not the player many thought he would be after a terrific rookie year. I think most cowboy fans are smart enough to see what their eyes tell them and there are more questions than answers when it comes to Roy Williams after he signed his extension.

But apparently, a lot of fans don't know what their eyes are telling them -- mostly because they have no perspective whatsoever. And part of that is because they "don't care what the stats show."

So, when the stats show a player -- let's say Roy, for example -- allowing one of the lowest completion percentages and a low number of total completions while also leading all starters in interceptions and being among the leaders in passes defended, they completely ignore the factual evidence and convince themselves that such a player really stinks because they think they remember that one time when it looked like that player might have been at fault for not preventing a completion to a guy who was being covered by someone else.

If you see a player getting beaten in coverage, it doesn't mean they stink. All players get beaten. Some more than others. And the stats identify which ones those guys are. Fans can't do that because they don't see every play of every game, let alone remember exactly what happens on each play and how many times it happens with each player. In order to know all of that -- which would give them proper perspective about who's good or bad -- they'd have to watch every game and record what happens. But you know what that's called? Stats -- those things fans like to ignore.

 

[Biggems]

i dont see why you guys say Bob Sanders is overrated. the Colts defense is crap when he isn't in the game. when he is on the field, they have a very aggressive and staunch defense. he may not be a ballhawk like Ed Reed, but he brings an attitude and personality to that defense. He brings toughness and emotion. In fact, right now, Indy has the #1 pass defense in the NFL. I am willing to wager that if Sanders were on the pine, that ranking wouldn't even be top 10.

 

[Achozen]

I would take Adrian Wilson over almost ever Safety in the league. He's a playmaker and has been for a long time. Too bad he's been stuck playing in crappy defenses his whole career.

 

[AdamJT13]

I remember coaches talking about the fact that they have to game plan for Polamalu because he's always moving and can be anywhere in an instant, so I would assume that he is indeed a factor in games if the coaches say he is.

That's more because of how he's used than how good he is. If you take any good player and move them around and use them in atypical ways, and the offense would have to account for them. And still, Polamalu doesn't make that many big plays.

I also think a lot of the reason Roy has so many take aways is because teams know about his supposed weakness in coverage and test him often just like they've been testing Reeves.

Yet 34 safeties allowed more completions than Roy did last season, according to STATS LLC. And many others would have allowed more completions if they had played all but five defensive plays last season, like Roy did. Polamalu missed 262 plays last year (out of 1,002) and allowed only one fewer completion than Roy.

 

[AdamJT13]

I would take Adrian Wilson over almost ever Safety in the league. He's a playmaker and has been for a long time. Too bad he's been stuck playing in crappy defenses his whole career.

According to STATS LLC, Wilson was the second "most burned" safety in the NFL last season. He also allowed a 67.2-percent completion rate last season, which was sixth-worst out of the 53 safeties who allowed at least 20 catches.