I think Troy Aikman would make a good head coach!

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I'm not saying bring him here, although I wouldn't be opposed to it down the road, but I have always thought Aikman would make a good head coach. He is very serious about winning and is highly intelligent. He just has the right personality to command respect. I think he could someday take that route since he's so competitive. What do you think? I think if Jim Harbaugh can do it, Aikman can. They both are very confident and demanding.........
 

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Arkyvarminter;5101540 said:
I'm not saying bring him here, although I wouldn't be opposed to it down the road, but I have always thought Aikman would make a good head coach. He is very serious about winning and is highly intelligent. He just has the right personality to command respect. I think he could someday take that route since he's so competitive. What do you think? I think if Jim Harbaugh can do it, Aikman can. They both are very confident and demanding.........

Knowledge wise yes, but I think one reason some choose not to is the hours that are involved in the job. I always felt Woodson would make a great defensive coach, after all he was liking having a coach on the field when he played but he does not want to put in the hours he would have to as a coach
 

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I think that Michael Irvin would be the most suitable, out of the Triplets, for a head coaching job. He would instill a great deal of competitive fire in his players.
 

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I could see him being hired as a GM at some point.
 

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Troy is one of my all time favorite Cowboys, but I'm not so sure he has the personality to be a head coach. I have no doubt he has the smarts to do it, just not sure its something he is suited for.
 

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A head coach should be able to evaluate talent and Troy can't do that. He loved David Lafleur after working him out thought he had more upside than Tony Gonzalez :rolleyes: Troy loved WR Stepfret Williams thought he was a real find for the Cowboys. :cool: During a broadcast Miles Austin had a ball bounce right off his hands and Troy commented that you never see that with Austin claiming he had great hands. :rolleyes:
 

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KJJ;5101565 said:
A head coach should be able to evaluate talent and Troy can't do that. He loved David Lafleur after working him out thought he had more upside than Tony Gonzalez :rolleyes: Troy loved WR Stepfret Williams thought he was a real find for the Cowboys. :cool: During a broadcast Miles Austin had a ball bounce right off his hands and Troy commented that you never see that with Austin claiming he had great hands. :rolleyes:

Those examples you give unequivocally mean Troy cant evaluate talent?

How many HC's miss on players?

How many guys did Jimmy Johnson miss on?

How many guys did Parcells miss on?

Why do so many say you need the GM to evaluate and pick the players? That is the GM's job.

Troy doesnt have enough of a track record on talent evaluation to make a determination on whether he can do it or not.
 

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He's got it made with Fox, he'd be working triple the hours. At this phase in his life I think he's content with where he's at and doesn't feel he has anything to gain by coaching.

Garrett was going to be a coach before he even retired, he's built that way - Troy? Not so much.
 

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WPBCowboysFan;5101569 said:
Those examples you give unequivocally mean Troy cant evaluate talent?

How many HC's miss on players?

How many guys did Jimmy Johnson miss on?

How many guys did Parcells miss on?

Why do so many say you need the GM to evaluate and pick the players? That is the GM's job.

Troy doesnt have enough of a track record on talent evaluation to make a determination on whether he can do it or not.

Troy didn't hit on anyone he touted Lafeur ahead of Gonzalez who everyone had rated ahead of LaFleur. Troy was so impressed with Stepfret Williams after a few training camp practices he predicted he would be the Cowboys next great receiver. :cool: Williams only last 2 seasons in Dallas and one season in Cinn. Troy's in his mid 40's and hasn't coached at any level. Good NFL head coaches start gaining coaching experience before they ever reach 30. Most former players that become "good" head coaches have short NFL careers because they weren't very good players and turned to coaching. Troy being in the broadcast booth all these years has completely missed the boat on ever being an NFL head coach but knowing Jerry he would be stupid enough to hire him as Cowboys head coach right out of the booth. :laugh2:

All coaches even some of the greatest head coaches miss on players can you name one that hasn't? Successful head coaches like Jimmy and Parcells had a lot more hits than misses and some of their hits were huge. Some of the best players the Cowboys currently have are thanks to Parcells and he's been gone since after the 06 season. The Cowboys have Romo, Ware, Witten, Ratliff and Austin all due to Parcells. If a head coach has no ability to evaluate talent they won't be successful NFL or college head coaches. It's their job to put together a team and put players in the best position to succeed.

You can't have a GM pick every player on a roster and force the head coach to sign off on all of them. Good teams allow their head coach to have a lot of say on personnel. Some teams give their head coach total control of their personnel. Jimmy had total control of the Cowboys personnel. Tom Landry had total control of his personnel. The greatest teams the Cowboys have had their head coach had the final say on players. A coach has to have their type of players on their team or it's just not going to work. You can't just hire a head coach, have a GM pick all the players for them and tell the head coach to go out and coach them. That's pretty much how it works in Dallas under Jerry.


http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/columns/story?columnist=macmahon_tim&id=5901329
 

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...measure on anyone who wants to lead a collective of individuals to a common goal is their ability to gain consensus and organize the group to said goal.

For a HC who really cares how they evaluate, etc. You can hire a lot of tasks out and many HCs do.

Where they come to the table is getting their team ready and poised to play good, consistent football day in and day out. From the first whistle to the last.

I don't know Troy so I'm not certain if he fits this mould, but clearly some we have had on the sidelines, see poodle and Phillips weren't cut out for this gig.

Unlike what Jerry spouts there are more failures at this than winners. Lot's of great coaches have fallen by the wayside when they moved to the top job.
 

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WPBCowboysFan;5101569 said:
Troy doesnt have enough of a track record on talent evaluation to make a determination on whether he can do it or not.

Troy has no track record period as a coach at any level and he's 46. That's all I need to know to make a determination that he can't do it. Like I pointed out in my previous post "good" NFL head coaching start developing as coaches as young men working as assistants. It's way too late for Troy unless Jerry is stupid enough to hire right out of the booth with no coaching experience. That wouldn't surprise me with Jerry. LOL
 

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After listening to Troy constantly belittle the Boys as a Commentator for Fox the last 12+ years I would love to see him as the HC of the Commanders or Eagles....:D
 

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fairviewfarmer;5101592 said:
After listening to Troy constantly belittle the Boys as a Commentator for Fox the last 12+ years I would love to see him as the HC of the Commanders or Eagles....:D

LOL!

Wouldn't Troy be the most accomplished player to ever coach? There's a reason why you rarely see the superstar go to that level. It's almost... beneath them?

Who would he supplant for that title, both in the now and All-Time? Ditka?

Edit: just thought of another Bear, Singletary...
 

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fairviewfarmer;5101592 said:
After listening to Troy constantly belittle the Boys as a Commentator for Fox the last 12+ years I would love to see him as the HC of the Commanders or Eagles....:D

It always surprises me when I hear people say this. I listen to every Aikman Cowboys broadcast, and I don't think he ever belittles the team. In fact, I think he represents the organization really, really well.
 

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Idgit;5101610 said:
It always surprises me when I hear people say this. I listen to every Aikman Cowboys broadcast, and I don't think he ever belittles the team. In fact, I think he represents the organization really, really well.

:hammer:
 

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KJJ;5101565 said:
A head coach should be able to evaluate talent and Troy can't do that. He loved David Lafleur after working him out thought he had more upside than Tony Gonzalez :rolleyes: Troy loved WR Stepfret Williams thought he was a real find for the Cowboys. :cool: During a broadcast Miles Austin had a ball bounce right off his hands and Troy commented that you never see that with Austin claiming he had great hands. :rolleyes:

LeFleur...............REC..Yards..AVG..TD..Ttl Points

1999 DAL 16 35 322 9.2 7 42

I watch the slander of players that wore the star because of incidents where they failed at times and wonder if the one making the remark really understood what was happening at the time.

LaFleur is a prime example.

I wonder if all those that rail on him understand he had a degenerative back issue that caused him to get a cortisone shot before game just to play. The article I read suggested this was a very long needle and a very painful procedure.

But the other issue that appears to have fallen by the wayside is that LaFleur had more TD catches one season than all non-WRs. Now consider the times and how TEs are much more involved than then, except for Novacek who was a lanky slow WR in the TE position.

LaFleur was not Novacek. He was a big kid who was not lanky.

His career ended because of his back and not his skill. Had he been 100% he might have been close to Gonzales.

Aikman's comment on him be hanged, if I were to pick out a GM for this team that was not named Eliot Wolf for the GM spot, Aikman would be a great candidate.

Too many times people post anecdotal incidents and try and support their prejudice or ignorance with such a small slice of information they miss the big picture.

Those surely aren't Witten numbers, nor Novacek. But neither of those guys from jump had the health issues this kid did. I think it's a shame he is treated like Quincy Carter when he was giving it up for the team and playing through a great deal of pain most here would not.

Barco-lounger GMs usually couldn't find their hindquarters with a map and a tour guide.

KJJ, not suggesting that is what you are doing, but most of the fans here that despised LaFleur, or Fasano have no clue how really good both of those guys were/are.
 

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He would make a great coach.

...but would Joe Buck make a good assistant coach?

:p::D
 

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TwoDeep3;5101656 said:
His career ended because of his back and not his skill. Had he been 100% he might have been close to Gonzales.

Incredible reach. Gonzales likely GOAT to this point. I never got that feeling watching LeFluer.
 

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RS12;5101665 said:
Incredible reach. Gonzales likely GOAT to this point. I never got that feeling watching LeFluer.

Then you missed the point since LaFleur had the back issues from the get go.
 

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TwoDeep3;5101667 said:
Then you missed the point since LaFleur had the back issues from the get go.

Usually I agree with your posts, but it was a really bad comparison IMO. I dont think completely healthy LaFluer was anywhere near the player Gonzalez turned out to be. We'll have to leave it at that. Greg Cook might have been the next Unitas, but probably not.
 
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