Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Beast_from_East, Aug 20, 2019.
Emotions are starting to become involved in this negotiation .
It was a bad call by zeke's agent .
CFL REVEALS LIST OF 10 NEGOTIATION LIST PLAYERS
1. Ezekiel Elliot
We might make the playoffs, unless Pollard is healthy and becomes our James Connor.
Would Zeke qualify for “hold out after fewest games played?”
Darrin Smith held out after two seasons for the Cowboys in 1995 as an RFA. He didn't report until Week 8 that season.
Lol at OP criticizing Zeke and not having the facts straight
And also LOL if you think Jerry “having his back” wasnt anything more than his selfish agenda (No zeke = No chance)
Two sides to every story. Don’t draft a player 4th overall, esp RB and not expect to pay him for what you projected him to be!
The only emotions being flung to and fro is by fans, honestly. All of this stuff from Zeke's camp is carefully crafted and calculated and fans are buying it hook, line, and sinker at face value because they want to believe something negative about a player negotiating a contract.
This is why you don’t take a RB at #4. They know you plan to run them into the ground for 5 years and let them go. Sure that top-5 money looks good in college but whenever a low round draft pick RB performs and is getting a better deal in year 3 or 4 you notice.
Also, we still have the Cooper contract to deal with and he has the team over a barrel as much or more than Zeke does, but he’s willing to play in case he ends up in FA. A 1.5 year rental for draft capital going into a strong projected QB class draft and Dak demands out-of-sync with FO perception makes for a bad look if things turn sour. NFCCG or bust.
how can they calculate for a drunk jerrah ?
I mean, those are some impressive calculations !
plastic bag and duct tape
The response to Jerry was calculated. Jerry is a flubber all on his own. They know Jerry was joking but they also the know the media will run with the "insult" angle and fans of other teams will too because they don't care enough to investigate. Therefore, it makes the FO look bad to the majority of the league's fans but most importantly keeps it in the press and makes it a potential for distraction that the Jones' might want to go away.
This is all part of negotiation and will be water under the bridge once a new deal is signed but fans and their emotion are getting bent way more out of shape than the negotiating parties themselves because of what they really, really hope for, which by and large is denying a player getting paid.
That has nothing to do with my post. Someone said they offered him Gurley money. I responded "I thought they offered top 5? Isn't Gurley 1st?" That was all about contract numbers. So what are you talking about?
Yes, even with Zeke, Cooper, and Dak last year we still had a mediocre offense. I understand Coop wasn’t there the first 6 games, we had a different OC and we didn’t have Fred but we still had a lot of good pieces and there and weren’t that great.
The O line is locked up for awhile. RB’s are expendable and there is a deep draft class next year. Pay Coop, not sure what to do about Dak, and trade Zeke.
Lock up Jaylon, get ready for LVE’s contract. Get another DE in FA next year or see how Quinn does and whats up with Gregory. Extend the guys in the secondary we think we need and replace Heath. I think our defense is younger and has much more potential to be elite than our offense. Typically, LB’ers and DE’s cost more than say...running backs. Better start saving now and cut bait with The Entitled One.
Edit: even though I said yes, I’m not 100% sold on this idea but I’m strongly leading towards it right now.
they didnt offer him Gurley money it was Bell money without as much guaranteed money..you are correct it was top 5 money but wasnt what he was looking for..I believe I was responding to the response to the same person you were responding to. Accident, it hapoens.. shrug
THIS IS WHAT EMITT SMITH THINKS:
“I think the Cowboys should pay him,” Emmit Smith told Voice of the Fans’ Cameron Buford.
Smith added more context on Elliott via a transcription provided by sports and entertainment journalist, Landon Buford.
“I think if you look at the scheme of things where things are today, leverage is the most important thing that we all have,” said Smith.
“You lose leverage, you lose opportunity. The Cowboys have leverage, they are going to lessen your opportunity. So, you have to strike while the iron is hot. There are so many options that the Cowboys have that he doesn’t have. Everyone in the world wants to talk about what he should do because they are not in his position. As a former player when are in that position when you have leverage you need to take advantage of the opportunity. I think people are going to test how far he is willing to go like they did with Le’Veon Bell. How far are you willing to go.”
I love "Emmit speak" LOL I think Zeke would have had more leverage next year IMO.
The expectation was that the player drafted #4 would abide CBA's wage plan for 1st round draft picks i.e. 4 year contract with an option for a 5th.
If 1st rounders are going to go around the plan and demand contract renegotiation early, the signing bonuses are going to drastically fall and the value of 1st round pick is going to plummet.
Actually, if I recall, Duane Thomas held out in like his second season in the league, with the Cowboys. Now in those days, teams didn't play. Tex traded him to the Pats or some such, and they were horrible terrible in those days.