If Bill and TO stay (we know TO is staying) then...

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if Bill continues to misuse TO and not execute this offense as it is on paper... THERE WILL be a blowout next year between TO and Bill.... TO wont be able to take it for a second year.

And I for one wont blame TO one bit when it happens... TO showed great restraint this year trying to do what the team asked of him. Even Terry Glenn was getting frustrated with the offense... behind closed doors maybe Witten wanted more too.. who knows...

Next year... if you want TO to show you the money... we had better show him the ball.
 

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Yes that 4th overall ranking really is a slap in the face to our primadonna wideouts.
 

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Who carries more weight? A TO apologist or a Randy Moss apologist?:bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:
 

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YoMick;1306556 said:
Next year... if you want TO to show you the money... we had better show him the ball.


Next year....... if you want #81 to be a respectable human being......kill him in his sleep.
 

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YoMick;1306556 said:
if Bill continues to misuse TO and not execute this offense as it is on paper...

What does this even mean????? :confused:
 

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the kid 05;1306648 said:
that we should be number 1 on offense for passing.

Based on Romo's yards per game (2,868 in 10.5 games, not counting his 35 yards on two passes against the Texans), if he had played all 16 games, he would have finished with 4,370 yards passing -- 48 yards away from leading the NFL.
 

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Tough to say really.

It seems that after his whole infamous episode in Philly with the "next question" interview, that he has distance himself from Rosenhaus publicly, but has been smart enough to retain him.

After the infamous "25 Million reasons" episode, you didnt hear a peep about his publicist, even after he relieved her of her duties.

The more I think about it lately, it seems that the Cowboys may have been protecting TO and his injury. Yet still trying to get him some touches each game to keep teams honest.

With a younger QB like Romo the fact that he didnt lock onto TO is actually a good thing, shows patience and poise.
 

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YoMick;1306556 said:
if Bill continues to misuse TO and not execute this offense as it is on paper... THERE WILL be a blowout next year between TO and Bill.... TO wont be able to take it for a second year.

And I for one wont blame TO one bit when it happens... TO showed great restraint this year trying to do what the team asked of him. Even Terry Glenn was getting frustrated with the offense... behind closed doors maybe Witten wanted more too.. who knows...

Next year... if you want TO to show you the money... we had better show him the ball.
you are so 100% right!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
 

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AdamJT13;1306655 said:
Based on Romo's yards per game (2,868 in 10.5 games, not counting his 35 yards on two passes against the Texans), if he had played all 16 games, he would have finished with 4,370 yards passing -- 48 yards away from leading the NFL.

Based on Ladell Betts first 2 starts (the first 2 games) of the season he was on pace to have about 500 rushing yards for the season. Clearly not what happened, and he didnt start 7 games (and didnt even have many carries in most of the games until Portis was hurt).

So Romo wouldnt necessarily have reached or even come close to breaching the 4300 mark. Its not a would its a could, being that it is speculation.

Just saying you know.
 

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SkinsandTerps;1306667 said:
Based on Ladell Betts first 2 starts (the first 2 games) of the season he was on pace to have about 500 rushing yards for the season. Clearly not what happened, and he didnt start 7 games (and didnt even have many carries in most of the games until Portis was hurt).

So Romo wouldnt necessarily have reached or even come close to breaching the 4300 mark. Its not a would its a could, being that it is speculation.

Just saying you know.

Ten starts and half of another game is a much bigger sample size than two games.

And we hadn't had a quarterback pass for more than 225 yards in four consecutive games since 1993. Romo did it in NINE consecutive games -- the NFL's longest streak this season. His yardage wasn't a fluke for a few games, it was consistently high throughout his playing time.
 

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AdamJT13;1306693 said:
Ten starts and half of another game is a much bigger sample size than two games.

And we hadn't had a quarterback pass for more than 225 yards in four consecutive games since 1993. Romo did it in NINE consecutive games -- the NFL's longest streak this season. His yardage wasn't a fluke for a few games, it was consistently high throughout his playing time.

And Betts started 9 games and had over 1100 yard rushing alone. Are you saying that Betts if Betts had played as a starter in all games he would have had over 1900 yards ?

My point isnt that it was impossible for Romo to achieve this mark, just that it is impossible to say.
 

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SkinsandTerps;1306714 said:
And Betts started 9 games and had over 1100 yard rushing alone. Are you saying that Betts if Betts had played as a starter in all games he would have had over 1900 yards ?

My point isnt that it was impossible for Romo to achieve this mark, just that it is impossible to say.


YAWN.
 

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JustSayNotoTO;1306717 said:

So you dont understand the comparison ?

Its speculation of coulda, wooulda, shoulda.

I could play the numbers game that Adam plays too and bring up his (Romo) poorest games and say he would be no better than average at best for his career based on those games.
 

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SkinsandTerps;1306714 said:
And Betts started 9 games and had over 1100 yard rushing alone. Are you saying that Betts if Betts had played as a starter in all games he would have had over 1900 yards ?

You're forgetting that Betts played in the other seven games and rushed for 304 yards in those games. In his nine starts, he rushed for 850 yards, which projects to 1,511 yards. That would be a fair projection -- although the wear-and-tear on a running back is greater, and part of being a 1,500-yard back is being able to withstand the pounding of 25 carries for 16 weeks. Julius Jones rushed for 803 yards in seven starts as a rookie, but he hasn't been able to sustain that same 27-carries-per-game average over 16 games like he did for seven. It's possible that Betts could do it -- if Portis missed all of next season with another injury, for example -- but it's not known yet if he could.
 

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SkinsandTerps;1306721 said:
I could play the numbers game that Adam plays too and bring up his (Romo) poorest games and say he would be no better than average at best for his career based on those games.

Why would you base anything on a selection of bad games? You'd pick out his worst games and say he'd be average at best? Yeah, that makes sense.

I didn't pick and choose any games, I used every game he has ever started. And his yards per game is pretty close to the league's best. He also ranked No. 1 in yards per attempt, No. 1 in average yards at catch (the length of the pass thrown), No. 1 in percentage of passes thrown more than 20 yards, No. 2 in TD percentage, No. 2 in completion percentage, No. 2 in third-down passer rating, No. 3 in overall first-down percentage and No. 5 in overall passer rating.
 

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Come on Adam, its not known if Romo... if he had started the season ...would have finished it either.

I am not trying to throw you under the bus here.

Just saying from your original post, that there is no way of telling what Romo would have certainly done or Betts.

I could argue that if Betts was the starter, than he would have possibly been in the Pro Bowl and on the cusp of 2000 rushing yards alone based on his last 7 games.

Two words : Speculation, and Potential.

There certainly isnt any way that you can prove that Romo would have thrown for over 4300 yards.

Those games werent played, and those stats werent acquired.
 

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AdamJT13;1306729 said:
Why would you base anything on a selection of bad games? You'd pick out his worst games and say he'd be average at best? Yeah, that makes sense.

I didn't pick and choose any games, I used every game he has ever started. And his yards per game is pretty close to the league's best. He also ranked No. 1 in yards per attempt, No. 1 in average yards at catch (the length of the pass thrown), No. 1 in percentage of passes thrown more than 20 yards, No. 2 in TD percentage, No. 2 in completion percentage, No. 2 in third-down passer rating, No. 3 in overall first-down percentage and No. 5 in overall passer rating.


Why wouldnt I ?

Numbers are numbers.

No, No, No.

Thats what is the most common word in this post.

Thats actually interesting.

I have stated on several threads, several times that I think Romo can be a good QB. So dont think I am trying to pick on you or Romo.


You are not reading what I am posting.

Hopefully someone will come in to help you, because you arent coming up with much at this point.

You pick and choose. Hell I can do that too.

I guess you are saying that Betts is an elite RB.
 

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SkinsandTerps;1306730 said:
Come on Adam, its not known if Romo... if he had started the season ...would have finished it either.

What does that have to do with anything? Any player could get injured at any moment. I wasn't talking about Betts getting injured, I was talking about running backs wearing down under a constant pounding. You can't just pretend that doesn't happen.

I could argue that if Betts was the starter, than he would have possibly been in the Pro Bowl and on the cusp of 2000 rushing yards alone based on his last 7 games.

Again, you're forgetting that Betts played in every game this season. Are you just pretending that he didn't rush for 22, 40 and 18 yards in his first three starts? Why would you ignore those games? He WAS the starter then -- so your "if Betts was the starter" should be "if Betts was the starter and played better than he did."

There certainly isnt any way that you can prove that Romo would have thrown for over 4300 yards.

That's why I said "based on his yards per game" -- if he had maintained that average for all 16 games.

Again, the difference here is that I'm using Romo's ENTIRE season, while you think you can pick and choose which games to use.
 
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