If BP quits coaching after next year...

punchnjudy

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...who replaces him? Do they give the head coaching job to someone on the current staff to have some continuity? Do they bring in someone from outside the organization who will then want to bring in his own coaches and schemes as well as players who fit those schemes? Does that mean that a lot of the 'rebuilding' we do between now and then could be wasted? For example, I'd hate to see Dallas spend another draft and off-season building a 3-4 defense, only to see them switch back to a 4-3 the following year.

Personally, I don't see anyone on this coaching staff who has earned the right to be the head coach of the premier franchise in sports. So what does Jerry do? I don't think he will fire him, but I do think they'll meet in the off-season and discuss BP's commitment to the franchise and whether him staying for just one more year is really in the best interest of the organization. Remember, bringing in Parcells was never viewed as some 5 or 7 year plan to success. Most observers didn't expect him to stay more than three years. If the team is still a few rebuilding years away from contending for a Super Bowl (and I think it is), does keeping Parcells for another season really speed up the path to Titletown, or does it just stall it for one more year?
 

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Weis, Holmgren, or Jimmy Johnson. Someone of obvious quality who can make an assessment and move us forward from wherever we are. A long term answer at the QB position will be a priority after our current "win now" retread approach is completed.
 

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Neither Weiss, or holmgren would leave their current positions to come here. The Jimmy thing is already over, he aint coming back.
 

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we would have an interim coach.. who most likely would be Willie Blade or Torrin Tucker
 

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lspain1 said:
A long term answer at the QB position will be a priority after our current "win now" retread approach is completed.
What's wrong with Henson as the long term answer? He's at least as good as anyone we are going to have an opportunity to draft this year.

Unless you are seriously advocating trading a ton of draft picks to move up or for Rivers.
 

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Get real. Weiss has made it clear he is staying at ND and Holmgren now finally has his Seattle team as a legit contender for SB and if they don't win it this year (lose to Colts in SB), he will definitely be back with them next year. As for Jimmie Johnson, doubt he wants to return to Cowboys to again try rebuilding this team. JJ wasn't exactly successful with the Dolphins and with him being out of football for more then 5 years don't think he wants come back. BTW: Understand while there may be a lot of coaching positions available this year, not much quality coaching choices out there. Hopefully we can upgrade OL and DC coaching jobs though.
 

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wileedog said:
What's wrong with Henson as the long term answer? He's at least as good as anyone we are going to have an opportunity to draft this year.

Unless you are seriously advocating trading a ton of draft picks to move up or for Rivers.


I am not a member of the 'Henson is a bust' group. If he's the long term answer (or if it's Romo) and we begin to groom him for the job then I'm OK with that. My point is, if we don't have the answer currently, then we need to get the answer in here and begin to get the growing pains behind us. Henson gets another chance in our next training camp and we should begin to get a real idea of who we have at the 3 year point.

Once we get a new head coach, that person will have to make an immediate evaluation of whether our talent at the QB positioin is adequate. If it is not then a serious search must start immediately.
 

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sago1 said:
Get real. Weiss has made it clear he is staying at ND and Holmgren now finally has his Seattle team as a legit contender for SB and if they don't win it this year (lose to Colts in SB), he will definitely be back with them next year. As for Jimmie Johnson, doubt he wants to return to Cowboys to again try rebuilding this team. JJ wasn't exactly successful with the Dolphins and with him being out of football for more then 5 years don't think he wants come back. BTW: Understand while there may be a lot of coaching positions available this year, not much quality coaching choices out there. Hopefully we can upgrade OL and DC coaching jobs though.


The point of my post was not really to advocate the immediate hiring of these guys (even though Johnson might actually surprise us if asked) but to say we would need someone of obvious stature to come into the job. Jerry needs someone he can partner with and not dominate. I also want a coach who is astute concerning personnel. We need that badly with our draft record pre-Parcells.
 

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God, if we replace Parcells with Zimmer or Payton I'll puke all over myself. And then eat it. And puke all over myself again.

I like Tim Lewis DC of the Giants.
 

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lspain1 said:
The point of my post was not really to advocate the immediate hiring of these guys (even though Johnson might actually surprise us if asked) but to say we would need someone of obvious stature to come into the job. Jerry needs someone who we can partner with and not dominate. I also want a coach ewho is astute concerning personnel. We need that badly with our draft record pre-Parcells.


I agree, our franchise would need a big time coach, thank god we have one :)
 

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Why is it that Jimmy Johnson isn't considered successful in Miami? From the team he started w/ to the team he left behind, the team was way ahead of where it was talent wise. He just got burned out after that blowout loss in the playoffs and left. To me, he probably could have gone after a superbowl if he would have stuck around a little longer. The guy is an incredible judge on NFL talent IMHO.
 

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dmq said:
Why is it that Jimmy Johnson isn't considered successful in Miami? From the team he started w/ to the team he left behind, the team was way ahead of where it was talent wise. He just got burned out after that blowout loss in the playoffs and left. To me, he probably could have gone after a superbowl if he would have stuck around a little longer. The guy is an incredible judge on NFL talent IMHO.


Sounds eerily similar to the current situation with the Dallas Cowboys.
 

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...as much as Juke wants him to..........BP isn't going anywhere, at least not this year.

....and when he does leave........he will never coach (as an NFL head coach) again.
 

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I think the Washington Defensive Coordinator maybe the next assistant Coach that moves to the Head Coaching ranks.
 

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A friend from DC told me that a rumor was circuilating last week how Norv Turner is high on Jerry's future list.
 

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dmq said:
The guy is an incredible judge on NFL talent IMHO.

His drafts with Miami were for the most part horrible. First round picks for guys like John Avery and Yatil Green really set him back.

He left with a better defense, but did nothing for the offense. They were no closer to winning a SB then we he got there.

And that last playoff loss was an embarassment.

He didn't make things any worse, so I wouldn't say he was a 'failure' per say. But I would find it hard to deem his 4 years there a 'success'.
 

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People said Jerry wouldn't hire Parcells and that Parcells would never work for a guy like Jerry. I called it back then. As hard headed as Jerry is, he is not Al Davis which many compared him too. I knew he would put the interests of his team ahead of him at some point because Jerry is still very much a businessman at heart. And businessmen are aware you need to hire people more intelligent than you if you want your organization to succeed.

I can see Jimmy coming here for several reasons.

1. Jimmy has seen how much Jerry has matured over the years and is willing to put others before himself. He isn't the same Jerry Jones of 1994.

2. Jimmy and Jerry go way back. Call it what you will but deep down, friends like to work with one another. The sense of nostalgia appeals to people.

3. Jimmy is a head coach deep down. And Jimmy has an ego. You don't think he would love to be a part of the spot light again and do what he loves. Plus, he knows he has an owner that is willing to spend money to get the right people.

4. Vacation is overrated to workaholics. Ask anyone who is competitive and successful at their work. They love to take time off but eventually, the competitive fire always draws them back to their work in some capacity. This is why Parcells, Dick Vermeil, Marty Schottenheimer and Joe Gibbs all came out of retirement
 

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wileedog said:
His drafts with Miami were for the most part horrible. First round picks for guys like John Avery and Yatil Green really set him back.

He left with a better defense, but did nothing for the offense. They were no closer to winning a SB then we he got there.

And that last playoff loss was an embarassment.

He didn't make things any worse, so I wouldn't say he was a 'failure' per say. But I would find it hard to deem his 4 years there a 'success'.

His problem is Miami is that he couldn't find another Emmitt Smith. He kept trying to make guys like Kareem Abdul Jabbar great by giving them a lot of carries but it never worked. His other problem was Dan Marino was getting old but he couldn't cut him because he was the franchise. So he was stuck with Marino at QB when it was obvious he was slipping.
 

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His problem is Miami is that he couldn't find another Emmitt Smith. He kept trying to make guys like Kareem Abdul Jabbar great by giving them a lot of carries but it never worked.

Which only goes to show that his ability to evaluate NFL talent is a bit over-rated here.

I honestly don't think Jimmy could accomplish anything here that Bill cannot. At this point we still don't know that Jimmy could do anything when constrained by the cap, or without being handed a highway robbery of a trade like the Herschel deal.

I might buy into Jimmy being a slightly better game day coach, but Parcells flat out has a much better track record of rebuilding beaten down franchises - with or without a cap.
 
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