If Garrett leaves who becomes the OC?

[LittleBoyBlue]

No trick. I want him just as much as anyone but if someone were to offer you a big contract and a HC position chances are you would take it. The ideal that because we are the Cowboys means Jason will never leave is not reality just as players do not stay just because we are the Cowboys. That is not reality that is a homer view point. I think Jerry will do what he can to keep Jason here and I hope Jason stays but for people to act as if there is no way he is going anywhere is naive

I believe this case in an exception. Everything in life is situational.

I think everyone being paranoid that he will leave after one season for HC job is overreacting. He is a Cowboy. He is home. IMO... there is some wait in that.

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[Chocolate Lab]

I'm sure Jerry has thought long and hard about this and may have a plan in place.

True, Chief... But the question is, what is Jerry's plan?

To everyone who is sure Garrett would be a great head coach and should be promoted if necessary to keep him: Who would run our defense? Do you trust a wet-behind-the-ears Brian Stewart? Surely everyone has seen what's happened in San Diego even with an experienced DC who runs Wade's same system.

 

[Doomsday101]

I believe this case in an exception. Everything in life is situational.

I think everyone being paranoid that he will leave after one season for HC job is overreacting. He is a Cowboy. He is home. IMO... there is some wait in that.

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As I said I want him to stay but this is still a business. I'm not being paranoid about it if it happens it happens.

 

[superpunk]

True, Chief... But the question is, what is Jerry's plan?

To everyone who is sure Garrett would be a great head coach and should be promoted if necessary to keep him: Who would run our defense? Do you trust a wet-behind-the-ears Brian Stewart? Surely everyone has seen what's happened in San Diego even with an experienced DC who runs Wade's same system.

Bring Zimmer back.

 

[Doomsday101]

True, Chief... But the question is, what is Jerry's plan?

To everyone who is sure Garrett would be a great head coach and should be promoted if necessary to keep him: Who would run our defense? Do you trust a wet-behind-the-ears Brian Stewart? Surely everyone has seen what's happened in San Diego even with an experienced DC who runs Wade's same system.

Being a HC is more than running 1 side of the ball or the other. Phillips has brought this team together both offense and defense. Wade keeps saying he is the HC not the DC Wade wants to be known as a HC and that is what he is. He is loved by his player’s offense and defense, this is not Buddy Ryan where he ran the defense and said to hell with the guys on offense. Being HC is about running a team not running 1 side of the team.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

As I said I want him to stay but this is still a business. I'm not being paranoid about it if it happens it happens.

Actually.... I wasnt calling you paranoid.... though many seem to be on here. I realized that you just threw this up here for debate.

BUT...

I dont trust Jerry with everything he does... but when he wants something he basically MAKES IT HAPPEN. I feel very SURE about Garrett's staying in Dallas.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Being a HC is more than running 1 side of the ball or the other. Phillips has brought this team together both offense and defense. Wade keeps saying he is the HC not the DC Wade wants to be known as a HC and that is what he is. He is loved by his player’s offense and defense, this is not Buddy Ryan where he ran the defense and said to hell with the guys on offense. Being HC is about running a team not running 1 side of the team.

So... Who runs the defense if Jerry kicks Wade out?

And SP... :chop:

 

[Dodger12]

.....Also, Sparano should be on some radars for head coaching openings next year. There's no guarantee he'll still be here.

Chief, I was thinking the same thing and this may be the more likely scenario. Other teams know the value of Sparano to our team and what the guy brings to the table. JG is getting all the limelight now, but we had a good offense last season. Teams wanted to talk to him last year and we denied them the opportunity. I'm not sure, if JG goes, you can bypass Sparano a second time and promote the WR or QB coach; that'd be a slap in the face. Just my opinion......

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

HC of the NYFG is a very good job. Regardless of our opinions on Manning, he has talent. They have a decent offense, a good OL and money. Defensively, they have talent as well. They need pieces but they have some good talent in place. If he wins in NY, he will be able to win anywhere. There is no greater pressure to coach under then in NY. Heck, depending on contracts, there is nothing that says he can't go coach in NY and then leave to coach in Dallas at some point, if he wanted to.

I think that Jerry could offer him a great deal of money and a HC spot down the road but if NY offered him a nice salary and control of operations, that would be very, very hard to turn down. It all comes down to how much NY might be willing to offer. Heck, a team like Baltimore or even Miami could come calling and he would have to listen. Every team in the NFC East could have strong interest in Garrett. It would make sense for every one of those teams to put very attractive offers on the table for Garrett if they are in the market for a new HC. You know that if any of those teams could manage to bring him in, they would also bring a number of assistance as well. That would be a very big blow to our team.

I do hope that Jerry can manage to keep Garrett in the fold but to be honest, 2 years is a long time to wait when your not even sure if it's only two years. I would think that Garrett would have to look at his options and make the best choice for him. He would be stupid not to this and we all know that Garrett is not a stupid man.

 

[Chief]

True, Chief... But the question is, what is Jerry's plan?

To everyone who is sure Garrett would be a great head coach and should be promoted if necessary to keep him: Who would run our defense? Do you trust a wet-behind-the-ears Brian Stewart? Surely everyone has seen what's happened in San Diego even with an experienced DC who runs Wade's same system.

Jerry is probably planning to use his secret power to persuade Garrett to hang tight for a couple more years, enjoy a huge raise, and take over when Wade is moved to the front office as a consultant.

And great point about the defensive side of the ball.

You don't reckon Wade would be ok with stepping down and becoming defensive coordinator so we can all have our cake and eat it too? :laugh2:

The fact is, none of us know how Garrett would do as a head coach. He could be Norv Turner Jr. I doubt that, because he actually has some personality and charisma. But you never know.

Wade deserves to stay as long as he wants while the team is playing well.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Garrett inherited the 4th scoring offense in the NFL last year, with a young Pro Bowl QB already in place, and currently has two assistants on his braintrust who have playcalled for Top 5 scoring offenses in the NFL. I know he still has that new car smell, and has that alluring "glory days ties" sheen, but he was handed about as near a perfect a situation as any new offensive coordinator has ever stepped into. It would have taken an almost conscious effort to somehow screw it up. This idea that the offense is going to go to pot after he's gone is absolutely ridiculous. If Garrett goes to a team with a sub-standard to mediocre QB play, watch how his magical play calling abilities are robbed from him almost overnight.

 

[Chief]

Garrett inherited the 4th scoring offense in the NFL last year, with a young Pro Bowl QB already in place, and currently has two assistants on his braintrust who have playcalled for Top 5 scoring offenses in the NFL. I know he still has that new car smell, and has that alluring "glory days ties" sheen, but he was handed about as near a perfect a situation as any new offensive coordinator has ever stepped into. It would have taken an almost conscious effort to somehow screw it up. This idea that the offense is going to go to pot after he's gone is absolutely ridiculous.

Good points.

Which makes me think that some teams might be more interested in Tony Sparano.

 

[Doomsday101]

So... Who runs the defense if Jerry kicks Wade out?

And SP... :chop:

Wade has already said he would turn over the defensive play calling to Steward who is the DC. He did not bring him from SD for nothing. Wade is the HC over all members of this team not just a defensive coach. Any HC who only handles one aspect of the team is not much of a coach the HC is in charge of everything and if any part of the team fails he is the one who takes the responsibility for it.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Good points.

Which makes me think that some teams might be more interested in Tony Sparano.

Maybe, but I still think Garrett will get plenty of attention this offseason for the fact that he's young. Young coaches are attractive and an good sell to fans, mostly because they're unblemished and pristine. Like I said, Garrett still has that "new car smell". No Diet Coke spills on the upholstry, no dents in the bumper and no door dings that come with the veteran coach who's been around enough and fought in enough battles to display some ugly scars.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Good points.

Which makes me think that some teams might be more interested in Tony Sparano.

What exactly is Sparano's title here in Dallas? OL Coach (running) and Asst. Head Coach? I mean, a team could hire Garrett as the HC and Garrett could bring Sparano along as Asst HC/Offensive Co. Not saying this would happen but I would think that this would constitute an upgrade, of sort. I'd imagine that if Garrett were hired away, Jerry would probably counter such a move by offering Sparano the OC job but heck, who really knows.

On the other hand, both Sparano and Garrett could be offered positions with other teams. Look at San Diego last year. There is every possability that the Cowboys will be lossing several key people on our coaching staff next year.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Wade has already said he would turn over the defensive play calling to Steward who is the DC. He did not bring him from SD for nothing. Wade is the HC over all members of this team not just a defensive coach. Any HC who only handles one aspect of the team is not much of a coach the HC is in charge of everything and if any part of the team fails he is the one who takes the responsibility for it.

Hey, you don't have to convince me... I'm president of the Wade Fan Club.

But Wade is calling the defenses -- even Stewart has said so. Stewart mainly helps with gameplanning during the week and getting the right personnel groups on the field on Sundays.

And I'm with IR on Sparano/Garrett. I'm very confident Sparano could do just as well as RJ. Sparano even said last week on 103.3 -- while being as respectful as possible to his former boss -- that Parcells was very much a run-first coach who wouldn't let them open things up like he wished he could have. So with no limitations, I think his games would look a lot like RJ's.

The question is, as much as Jerry seems to love RJ, could he allow Jason to walk? I've got my doubts about that.

 

[zeromaster]

Welcome to today's episode of Predict the Future...

 

[superpunk]

Hey, you don't have to convince me... I'm president of the Wade Fan Club.

But Wade is calling the defenses. -- even Stewart has said so. Stewart mainly helps with gameplanning during the week and getting the right personnel groups on the field on Sundays.

And I'm with IR on Sparano/Garrett. I'm very confident Sparano could do just as well as RJ. Sparano even said last week on 103.3 -- while being as respectful as possible to his former boss -- that Parcells was very much a run-first coach who wouldn't let them open things up like he wished he could have. So with no limitations, I think his games would look a lot like RJ's.

The question is, as much as Jerry seems to love RJ, could he allow Jason to walk? I've got my doubts about that.

I'm with you on this - also, I like that we've shortened thing's down to an abbreviation, now. RJ is tops.

Wade + Sparano is an acceptable alternative to Wade + RJ. RJ + Random DC is not an acceptable alternative to Wade + Sparano.

Personally, I don't think it comes to that. It's lame to say that RJ's gonna be a lifer, but I think it will happen that way.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Wade has already said he would turn over the defensive play calling to Steward who is the DC. He did not bring him from SD for nothing. Wade is the HC over all members of this team not just a defensive coach. Any HC who only handles one aspect of the team is not much of a coach the HC is in charge of everything and if any part of the team fails he is the one who takes the responsibility for it.

Reminds me of something I heard during the Pats-Ravens game.... they said that Belichick was talking to defense and doesnt even worry about the offense... he leaves it completely up to his OC....

Not saying this is true... because it was only the 3 stooges talking... but if true... then there is success in that HC philosophy

 

[Doomsday101]

Hey, you don't have to convince me... I'm president of the Wade Fan Club.

But Wade is calling the defenses -- even Stewart has said so. Stewart mainly helps with gameplanning during the week and getting the right personnel groups on the field on Sundays.

And I'm with IR on Sparano/Garrett. I'm very confident Sparano could do just as well as RJ. Sparano even said last week on 103.3 -- while being as respectful as possible to his former boss -- that Parcells was very much a run-first coach who wouldn't let them open things up like he wished he could have. So with no limitations, I think his games would look a lot like RJ's.

The question is, as much as Jerry seems to love RJ, could he allow Jason to walk? I've got my doubts about that.

And Wade has said he plans on turning the defense play calling to Steward and said this after the pre-season was over. Wade did not bring Steward over here to be his gofer Steward is a fine coach who is learning under Wade but his reponsibilies will grow and Wade has said this as well.