If Romo got injured would he get more respect?

popp1234

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Mods, can we please construct a Romo Zone, please? Pretty please? Probably not, oh well...
 

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No, they will act like they rooted for him to succeed all along. Some of you guys are looking for an "I told you so" moment that you're never going to get.

You sound hurt by my comment. Touched a spot, no? You want to be able to jump in and out of his corner.

Don't cry, truth hurts man. Hate him now and then praise him when you see fit.
 

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The injured hand against the Commanders in 2008, the broken rib against the 49ers and Commanders in 2011, and the injured hand against the Giants in 2011, didn't get respect, so why now?
 

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Im not a Romo fan but i dont think he's the problem of the team either. Ive always thought the job was too big for him. He is playing the most important spot in one of the worlds most recognizable franchises. Cowboys, Yankees, Celtics, Manchester. Those are historic organizations. He takes too many risks, that eventually catch up to him. Yes he has the numbers and the wins to prove he belongs. But he also has the loses and situations where his way has caught up to him. It was the same with Favre. The way they play the chance of a mistake is not if, but when.
 

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I don't wish injury on any player, and that includes Romo for any reason. Romo going down will only have us losing more games, why? Because his replacement is not here. If his replacement was here, then maybe it's a different story. But either way it goes, whether you go 1-15 or 8-8, if you miss the playoffs, and you're the same QB for 8 years, it sucks. I'd much rather go 1-15 with a great QB coming out in the draft than to go 8-8 and harp about the offensive line, the coaching, the this, the that. Because that's all 8-8 teams do is yap and complain about IF we had this IF we had that. We've been if'n for nearly 18 years.
 

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Guy punctured a lung and broke his rib and STILL came back in to win that game and multiple games hurt like that. The guy will never get respect. Even when he wins a Super Bowl. People will find excuses
Why wouldn't we give him respect if he wins a Super Bowl? Don't be silly man. The ONLY reason we get on him is because he's wasting precious years of mine and every cowboys fan's life. We just want the dude to win, he wins, then the haters are all of a sudden lovers. All the other QBs before him were canned in 2 years max, but he's been here for over a decade. Don't waste our time with Stats, show us Super Bowls, or at least a freaking NFC championship game like Danny White did.
 

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Mods, can we please construct a Romo Zone, please? Pretty please? Probably not, oh well...

Some are in the Rant Zone if that's what you mean. Others in the Fan and News Zones.

Don't forget about the News Feed Zone as well. Not a shameless plug but people should consider browsing it.
 

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I guarantee if Romo gets to a must win game this season and wins 1 or 2 people will start to change their perception of him, because they will have seen him come through. Up until this point he hasn't done it, that's why he gets labeled as a choker.

Look at Flacco, he was never thought of highly but he got the Ravens to the playoffs and played phenomenal all the way up to a SB win. Now all of a sudden people are talking about him, because they saw him do it.

With Romo it's "I think he can do it"... But the reality is he's 33 and it hasn't happened yet. Most fans base their perception off what players have done, Romo needs to show us that he can do it. Come through in some win or go home games and fans will view him differently.

Until then his perception is what it is.



So 2009 when he beat Philly on last week of the season to win division, then again the next week in playoffs doesn't count? I forgot...we are supposed to ignore "big" games he actually wins....
 

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the only thing that will make people respect Romo is playoff victories. that is all.
 

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You sound hurt by my comment. Touched a spot, no? You want to be able to jump in and out of his corner.

Don't cry, truth hurts man. Hate him now and then praise him when you see fit.


Not hurt at all, guys like you want to see Tony and say "Tony I always believed in you even when no one else did, I never doubted you" (like a girl who just met Justin Bieber for the first time).

Do you think these guys really care one bit about a fan that's in his corner or not? If you ever get to meet Romo you'll probably tell him that you're his number 1 fan, and you'll really mean it. The problem is the next fan, standing in line right behind you, will tell him the same thing and to Tony you're both the same.

You sound like a stan. lol
 

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So 2009 when he beat Philly on last week of the season to win division, then again the next week in playoffs doesn't count? I forgot...we are supposed to ignore "big" games he actually wins....

Yes he gets credit for 2009... But at the same time fans remember how those games went down, his defense allowed 14 points combined for those 2 games and the running game piled up nearly 400 yards. Romo had to play a role he's not used to playing in those games, bus driver... but he played it beautifully.

Romo's good enough to win with, but he needs a near perfect situation around him to do so... Like he did in his lone win or go home victory. He hasn't shown he can overcome not having a run game or not having a stellar D..
 

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the only thing that will make people respect Romo is playoff victories. that is all.
Yes he gets credit for 2009... But at the same time fans remember how those games went down, his defense allowed 14 points combined for those 2 games and the running game piled up nearly 400 yards. Romo had to play a role he's not used to playing in those games, bus driver... but he played it beautifully.

Romo's good enough to win with, but he needs a near perfect situation around him to do so... Like he did in his lone win or go home victory. He hasn't shown he can overcome not having a run game or not having a stellar D..

Good stuff on those games. Didn't remember that.

I don't think Romo is a bus driver nor does it need to be perfect for him to win but we'll just have to agree to disagree.
 

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Defense.

In four games when Romo was out in 2010, our defense had at least 3 takeaways. Dallas was 4-0 in those games. During that time, when our defense did not have at least 2 takeaways in a game, "Kitna and McGee" were 0-3.

Since the middle of the 2011 season, with Romo at QB, our defense has gone 23 consecutive games without a 3-takeaway game, and in 2010 we had 4 in 10 games!

Kitna and McGee weren't responsible for the team going 5-5 without Romo in 2010 -- the defense was. Without those takeaways, we lose @.the Colts, vs. the Skins, and @ the Eagles, and that 5-5 turns into 2-8.
 

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Defense.

In four games when Romo was out in 2010, our defense had at least 3 takeaways. Dallas was 4-0 in those games. During that time, when our defense did not have at least 2 takeaways in a game, "Kitna and McGee" were 0-3.

Since the middle of the 2011 season, with Romo at QB, our defense has gone 23 consecutive games without a 3-takeaway game, and in 2010 we had 4 in 10 games!

Kitna and McGee weren't responsible for the team going 5-5 without Romo in 2010 -- the defense was. Without those takeaways, we lose @.the Colts, vs. the Skins, and @ the Eagles, and that 5-5 turns into 2-8.

I agree that the defense does not give Romo many "extra" opportunities and that's a problem.

Here's my official take on Romo.
Positive: He's a top 10 qb and is more than good enough to win a super bowl and we are lucky to have him.
Negative: He stopping himself from being mentioned in the same breath as the Mannings, Brees and Bradys of this league with questionable decision making in crucial moment of elimination games (lose and go home).

Tony's a very good qb so I find myself arguing with people that want to put him with the elites of the position and then trying to validate it with numbers. If numbers were everything then LeBron would've just stayed in Cleveland and compiled stats but he knew that if he wanted to be know as one of the greatest to ever play the game then he would need Championships to validate that claim.

You might be surprised that I also find myself defending Romo at my barber shop where people say that we need to cut him and find his replacement. You just don't cut a top 10 talent at the most difficult position in sports. So I ask them who should we get if we cut Romo and the answer is ........(crickets).

I guess I find myself defending my position that Romo is a top 10 qb against both the extremes, people that think that he's should be mentioned with Brees, Rodgers, Mannings and people that think that he's trash. Imo neither is true and the truth lies closer to the top than the bottom.
 

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I agree that the defense does not give Romo many "extra" opportunities and that's a problem.

Here's my official take on Romo.
Positive: He's a top 10 qb and is more than good enough to win a super bowl and we are lucky to have him.
Negative: He stopping himself from being mentioned in the same breath as the Mannings, Brees and Bradys of this league with questionable decision making in crucial moment of elimination games (lose and go home).

Tony's a very good qb so I find myself arguing with people that want to put him with the elites of the position and then trying to validate it with numbers. If numbers were everything then LeBron would've just stayed in Cleveland and compiled stats but he knew that if he wanted to be know as one of the greatest to ever play the game then he would need Championships to validate that claim.

You might be surprised that I also find myself defending Romo at my barber shop where people say that we need to cut him and find his replacement. You just don't cut a top 10 talent at the most difficult position in sports. So I ask them who should we get if we cut Romo and the answer is ........(crickets).

I guess I find myself defending my position that Romo is a top 10 qb against both the extremes, people that think that he's should be mentioned with Brees, Rodgers, Mannings and people that think that he's trash. Imo neither is true and the truth lies closer to the top than the bottom.

I agree Tony hurts himself and more importantly the team with some of his mistakes. You can't invalidate those mistakes my saying well we wouldn't be in many games without him. Neither issue invalidates the other. Tony has to find a way to be the good Tony without being the bad Tony.

Turnovers and differential is a biggie. The pass defense can be criticized and the offense has failed since the end of 2007. So there is a lot going on and only part of it is on Tony and poor ball protection.
 

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I guess I find myself defending my position that Romo is a top 10 qb against both the extremes.
Notice I didn't say Romo was in the same category as those other QB. I said this team would have been lucky to win 6 games without him, a point with which you clearly disagreed.

I just want to know if that info about 2010 I provided brings you any closer to the middle.
 
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