If Romo had done a Montana-style drive...

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I know we all want to forget the last game of the season, but I am wondering about one thing. What if Romo has the chance to win the game in a final drive like before, but instead he delivers a superb drive much like the greats -- Montana, Staubach, Elway, etc. -- and we score, win the game, and go to the playoffs.

However, the team is horribly banged up as you'll recall, and we get spanked by Seattle in the playoffs. Does Romo still get the credit for a great drive? Is he finally called "clutch" or does the playoff loss negate that? I think it's obvious that Seattle is simply a better team that we had little chance to beat, especially being so banged up.

I suspect if we had gone to the playoffs under those circumstances, we would still be screaming "Only one playoff win in 17 years." And Romo would not be called clutch because of that. The truth is he has had some clutch games. The game against San Francisco in which he played with broken ribs comes to mind.
 

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Reverend Conehead;5079030 said:
I know we all want to forget the last game of the season, but I am wondering about one thing. What if Romo has the chance to win the game in a final drive like before, but instead he delivers a superb drive much like the greats -- Montana, Staubach, Elway, etc. -- and we score, win the game, and go to the playoffs.

However, the team is horribly banged up as you'll recall, and we get spanked by Seattle in the playoffs. Does Romo still get the credit for a great drive? Is he finally called "clutch" or does the playoff loss negate that? I think it's obvious that Seattle is simply a better team that we had little chance to beat, especially being so banged up.

I suspect if we had gone to the playoffs under those circumstances, we would still be screaming "Only one playoff win in 17 years." And Romo would not be called clutch because of that. The truth is he has had some clutch games. The game against San Francisco in which he played with broken ribs comes to mind.

If Crayton would have kept running his route, he'd have one in the playoffs against the Giants.
 

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Romo would have gotten a pass to play one round of golf this off season!
 

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Had he not thrown the obvious pick on our opening drive, a comeback likely would not have been necessary.
 

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Might help if you at least have Dez or Miles or even Harris on the field...let alone a run game or an Oline.
You couldn't draw up a more difficult circumstance on the road. And before anyone starts saying "don't make excuses" I'll say "okay". But I would like one example of a QB doing one of those epic drives without any WRs, run game or blocking.
Romo keeps getting trashed about that poor decision but few seem to recognize the odds in the that situation.
 

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Vintage;5079034 said:
If Crayton would have kept running his route, he'd have one in the playoffs against the Giants.


Yea, if Mr. Patty Twitter shows up to play that game ends differently. I love seeing him whine about the Cowboys recievers on this past season, like he doesnt even realize what he did.
 

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Vintage;5079034 said:
If Crayton would have kept running his route, he'd have one in the playoffs against the Giants.

Reliving nightmares. That game killed me!!
 

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Reverend Conehead;5079030 said:
I know we all want to forget the last game of the season, but I am wondering about one thing. What if Romo has the chance to win the game in a final drive like before, but instead he delivers a superb drive much like the greats -- Montana, Staubach, Elway, etc. -- and we score, win the game, and go to the playoffs.

However, the team is horribly banged up as you'll recall, and we get spanked by Seattle in the playoffs. Does Romo still get the credit for a great drive? Is he finally called "clutch" or does the playoff loss negate that? I think it's obvious that Seattle is simply a better team that we had little chance to beat, especially being so banged up.

I suspect if we had gone to the playoffs under those circumstances, we would still be screaming "Only one playoff win in 17 years." And Romo would not be called clutch because of that. The truth is he has had some clutch games. The game against San Francisco in which he played with broken ribs comes to mind.

My natural dislike towards Romo haters makes me want to say he wouldn't have gotten a pass, but the truth is if they had gotten blown out of their socks at Seattle in a "plenty blame to go around loss" then that probably would have been a better outcome for Romo. I think he might have gotten a break.

The real positive would have been the end of the "win or go home" stupidity. Romo's win or go home record would now be better than his playoff record, so we would finally stop hearing about it and they could just go back to playoff record like they do for every other quarterback in the history of the NFL.
 

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Vintage;5079034 said:
If Crayton would have kept running his route, he'd have one in the playoffs against the Giants.
that play was in the 3rd quarter. :bang2:
 

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Actually the guy has made several great late game drives for wins but over the last 2 years Rob Ryan's open door defense gave the game away or the coach froze the kicker.
 

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Reverend Conehead;5079030 said:
I know we all want to forget the last game of the season, but I am wondering about one thing. What if Romo has the chance to win the game in a final drive like before, but instead he delivers a superb drive much like the greats -- Montana, Staubach, Elway, etc. -- and we score, win the game, and go to the playoffs.

However, the team is horribly banged up as you'll recall, and we get spanked by Seattle in the playoffs. Does Romo still get the credit for a great drive? Is he finally called "clutch" or does the playoff loss negate that? I think it's obvious that Seattle is simply a better team that we had little chance to beat, especially being so banged up.

I suspect if we had gone to the playoffs under those circumstances, we would still be screaming "Only one playoff win in 17 years." And Romo would not be called clutch because of that. The truth is he has had some clutch games. The game against San Francisco in which he played with broken ribs comes to mind.
If my Mom had slept with Bill Gates, I may not have to bust my rump every day.
 

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Idgit;5079041 said:
Had he not thrown the obvious pick on our opening drive, a comeback likely would not have been necessary.

Nice try, only one of the interceptions ended in Commander points, without that one the score still ends up being 21-18 Washington. Maybe the most logical thing would be to ask WHY the defense gave up 21 points. Or why the defense gave up nearly 300 yards rushing. The punting was also terrible as it had been the majority of the season. Although he had horrible stats for the game Tony was a drop in the bucket as to why we lost that game. This was an effort put forth by the entire team, and I say effort because that it what it takes to play a game so poorly. That might have been as poor a game that I've seen from a Cowboys defense since 1989.
 

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rbr651;5079098 said:
Nice try, only one of the interceptions ended in Commander points, without that one the score still ends up being 21-18 Washington. Maybe the most logical thing would be to ask WHY the defense gave up 21 points. Or why the defense gave up nearly 300 yards rushing. The punting was also terrible as it had been the majority of the season. Although he had horrible stats for the game Tony was a drop in the bucket as to why we lost that game. This was an effort put forth by the entire team, and I say effort because that it what it takes to play a game so poorly. That might have been as poor a game that I've seen from a Cowboys defense since 1989.

That's just not true. I love Tony Romo, but you don't throw three picks and win many of those must win games.

And that early pick blew a huge chance to set the tone for that game.
 

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Idgit;5079105 said:
That's just not true. I love Tony Romo, but you don't throw three picks and win many of those must win games.

And that early pick blew a huge chance to set the tone for that game.

I agree, however you greatly improve your chances when the turnovers aren't converted. I agree he had a horrible game and you can't expect to win those ones, but I do believe that if we were able to stop the run then it would of been a different outcome.

Normally I don't like making excuses, but I'm going to. I am optomistic about the upcoming season, injuries killed last year, and yes others should of been able to step up and play considering they are professionals. But I do think that health is the key to this team making a deep run. Normally week to week this team can play bad on O, or play bad on D it just happened that in this game both played horrible on the same day, and I do attribute the defenses poor play on health.

I also think that Griffin has written a check his can't cash, it's one thing to run all over a defense that's riddled with injury it's another thing to do it when they are healthy, and God help him if this defense is healthy this year.
 

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rbr651;5079108 said:
I agree, however you greatly improve your chances when the turnovers aren't converted. I agree he had a horrible game and you can't expect to win those ones, but I do believe that if we were able to stop the run then it would of been a different outcome.

Normally I don't like making excuses, but I'm going to. I am optomistic about the upcoming season, injuries killed last year, and yes others should of been able to step up and play considering they are professionals. But I do think that health is the key to this team making a deep run. Normally week to week this team can play bad on O, or play bad on D it just happened that in this game both played horrible on the same day, and I do attribute the defenses poor play on health.

I also think that Griffin has written a check his can't cash, it's one thing to run all over a defense that's riddled with injury it's another thing to do it when they are healthy, and God help him if this defense is healthy this year.

I'm optimistic overall, too. And you can win a game losing the turnover differential by more than one turnover, but it's really unlikely.
 

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Zordon;5079070 said:
that play was in the 3rd quarter. :bang2:

No, the pass over the middle was in the 4th. But that's not the play he's talking about. Next to last play, Romo throws a ball into the endzone that lands harmlessly. Crayton beat his man off the line, had a wide open seam into the endzone, but for some reason, cut it off at the 4. Romo saw that Crayton would have been wide open for a game winner. Crayton didn't.

If you're gonna :bang2:, at least know why.
 

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Zordon;5079070 said:
that play was in the 3rd quarter. :bang2:

No.
Romo made the game winning pass I the 2007 Giants playoff loss and Crayton broke the route.
Plain and simple.
Romo is the QB so he forever gets the blame. If Crayton had done his jobs, Dallas wins and then Romo gets maybe more credit than he deserves as well.
That's just how it goes being an NFL QB...you get too much blame and too much credit
 

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Picksix;5079123 said:
No, the pass over the middle was in the 4th. But that's not the play he's talking about. Next to last play, Romo throws a ball into the endzone that lands harmlessly. Crayton beat his man off the line, had a wide open seam into the endzone, but for some reason, cut it off at the 4. Romo saw that Crayton would have been wide open for a game winner. Crayton didn't.

If you're gonna :bang2:, at least know why.

I remember that. I was ready to brain Crayton. I remember he had some skills, but he lacked heart. I have no doubt if he had had a work ethic like a Herschel Walker or a Michael Irvin, he could have been a real difference maker. Instead, he was just a scrub. I don't think Crayton had enough talent to be an Irvin or a Pearson, but he could have been a difference maker à la Kelvin Martin.
 

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Vintage;5079034 said:
If Crayton would have kept running his route, he'd have one in the playoffs against the Giants.


If Romo had led the team to a 21-point lead, Crayton wouldn't matter.
 
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